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[BansheeOwnage]

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:25 .

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I like Refuse, I just wish it wasn't an FU to the fans as it obviously is. If they were smart, they'd build on Destroy and Refuse with Refuse being a conventional victory but with heavier losses.

[paxxton]

plfranke wrote...

Ahh okay, I thought this was a place for speculating and building the theory. However, it seems the literalists who come in here are right about you guys. You just pat each other on the backs, can't accept realities and push anyone out that doesn't fall in line. Enjoy your kool aid, I'll be in the real indoctrination thread

You're such a jerk. That BS you wrote earlier about necessities. You have an authoritarian mindset. Yeah, just go and leave us, douchebags, alone. 

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

Maybe Shepard is in the half-awake state where you can hear yourself talking in your sleep in your dream. I've done that a couple times. It's especially evident when I'm saying something emotional.

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

Maybe Shepard is in the half-awake state where you can hear yourself talking in your sleep in your dream. I've done that a couple times. It's especially evident when I'm saying something emotional.

Also, TSA, could you relink those soundfiles?

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Ahh okay, I thought this was a place for speculating and building the theory. However, it seems the literalists who come in here are right about you guys. You just pat each other on the backs, can't accept realities and push anyone out that doesn't fall in line. Enjoy your kool aid, I'll be in the real indoctrination thread

You're such a jerk. That BS you wrote earlier about necessities. You have an authoritarian mindset. Yeah, just go and leave us, douchebags, alone. 

He's a deluded hypocrite.

[TheConstantOne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I think Shepard's voice has an echo when Leviathan is speaking to him as well.  I'd check again to confirm this but I can't do so at the moment

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

Maybe Shepard is in the half-awake state where you can hear yourself talking in your sleep in your dream. I've done that a couple times. It's especially evident when I'm saying something emotional.

Also, TSA, could you relink those soundfiles?

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

[TheConstantOne]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

On the note of whispery voices, Starbinger speaks with Shepard's voice as well.  The male and female Shepard voices are very faint compared to the kid's voice but they are there.  I think that this evidence was presented way back in mark 1

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Ahh okay, I thought this was a place for speculating and building the theory. However, it seems the literalists who come in here are right about you guys. You just pat each other on the backs, can't accept realities and push anyone out that doesn't fall in line. Enjoy your kool aid, I'll be in the real indoctrination thread

You're such a jerk. That BS you wrote earlier about necessities. You have an authoritarian mindset. Yeah, just go and leave us, douchebags, alone. 

He's a deluded hypocrite.

Spreading convenient catch-all BS justifying everything he says and does.

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

So we need Shepard to look at the floor of the choice-o-matic™, then she/he will wake up? Nvm, they only show reflections of trees that aren't there. My bad. Even after EC and Leviathan right?
Well maybe we should give Shepard the kick. Wait, do you think exploding would work? Shepard explodes in destroy...

[TSA_383]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

Maybe Shepard is in the half-awake state where you can hear yourself talking in your sleep in your dream. I've done that a couple times. It's especially evident when I'm saying something emotional.

Also, TSA, could you relink those soundfiles?

Why certainly, old bean:

TSA_383 wrote...

 Time for Le Datamining.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b0poz0
^Audio files included above.

File #71 - Isn't this a new (and even creepier) voice?
File #135 - The catalyst near enough admits that it is harbinger, or at least that harbinger is a part of it (which is basically the same thing from a trustworthiness standpoint). People still go with this thing's solution?
File #188 - Speculation?
File #264 - Harby loses its temper.
File #282-294 - The new leviathan lines in the catalyst convo.

By the by, Harby's "WELL **** YOU THEN" line has a very similar voicing to Leviathan.
Edit: Forgot to add the link, but closed the tab, will reupload.
Edit2:Fixed.

 

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

So we need Shepard to look at the floor of the choice-o-matic™, then she/he will wake up? Nvm, they only show reflections of trees that aren't there. My bad. Even after EC and Leviathan right?
Well maybe we should give Shepard the kick. Wait, do you think exploding would work? Shepard explodes in destroy...

[paxxton]

TheConstantOne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I think Shepard's voice has an echo when Leviathan is speaking to him as well.  I'd check again to confirm this but I can't do so at the moment

Did you see that the camera was shaking while the thralls were speaking? Like on Rannoch but more noticeably, meaning that enthrallment is less subtle than indoctrination.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:46 .

[byne]

BatmanTurian wrote...

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

Is that why when I get really scared in a dream and try to scream, I can never do it? And it just comes out as like a quiet little noise?

(Which just makes the dream scarier, since I cant yell for help or anything )

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

Is that why when I get really scared in a dream and try to scream, I can never do it? And it just comes out as like a quiet little noise?

(Which just makes the dream scarier, since I cant yell for help or anything )

YES!  Exactly that.

[Dwailing]

TSA_383 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I noticed that too. Seems odd. Its also not really a regular echo, its all whispery and weird.

Maybe Shepard is in the half-awake state where you can hear yourself talking in your sleep in your dream. I've done that a couple times. It's especially evident when I'm saying something emotional.

Also, TSA, could you relink those soundfiles?

Why certainly, old bean:

TSA_383 wrote...

 Time for Le Datamining.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b0poz0
^Audio files included above.

File #71 - Isn't this a new (and even creepier) voice?
File #135 - The catalyst near enough admits that it is harbinger, or at least that harbinger is a part of it (which is basically the same thing from a trustworthiness standpoint). People still go with this thing's solution?
File #188 - Speculation?
File #264 - Harby loses its temper.
File #282-294 - The new leviathan lines in the catalyst convo.

By the by, Harby's "WELL **** YOU THEN" line has a very similar voicing to Leviathan.
Edit: Forgot to add the link, but closed the tab, will reupload.
Edit2:Fixed.

 

Hey TSA, could you please upload this dialogue on YouTube?  I don't really like the idea of downloading files from ME3.  I know it's probably not illegal, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

Hey TSA, could you please upload this dialogue on YouTube?  I don't really like the idea of downloading files from ME3.  I know it's probably not illegal, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.

Yeah, that would make it a lot easier for everyone.

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey TSA, could you please upload this dialogue on YouTube?  I don't really like the idea of downloading files from ME3.  I know it's probably not illegal, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.

Yeah, that would make it a lot easier for everyone.

+1

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

It sounds wierd but it's true. If you start shouting in a dream, it'll come out as a raised voice in your sleep. Then you'll hear yourself talking even as you do it. Sometimes breaks the dream too, just like trying to look into a mirror or reflective surface in a dream. You realize you're dreaming and instead of being lucid, you reject it and wake up.

Is that why when I get really scared in a dream and try to scream, I can never do it? And it just comes out as like a quiet little noise?

(Which just makes the dream scarier, since I cant yell for help or anything )

You know, dreams are the only time I feel real fear. It's not pleasant. I don't really get scared in real life. Also, if you have problems with nightmares you can always talk to me about it.  We care about you.

[TheConstantOne]

paxxton wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I think Shepard's voice has an echo when Leviathan is speaking to him as well.  I'd check again to confirm this but I can't do so at the moment

Did you see that the camera was shaking while the thralls were speaking? Like on Rannoch but more noticeably, meaning that enthrallment is less subtle than indoctrination.

Hmm, no I did not see this.  When I play through the dlc again, I'll need to look for this.

Also, paxxton, I've always noticed your control banner but I finally realized just how healthy it is that you have that banner.  I mean, everyone needs a back up choice should the IT interpretation not pan out, and you were perhaps the first ITer I'm aware of to display this reality with pride.  Kudos to you sir!

If you're curious, my literalist ending of choice is still Synthesis though Leviathan almost changed that.

Anyway, no real reason why I went off on that tangent but I felt it should be voiced

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...


Is that why when I get really scared in a dream and try to scream, I can never do it? And it just comes out as like a quiet little noise?

(Which just makes the dream scarier, since I cant yell for help or anything )

You know, dreams are the only time I feel real fear. It's not pleasant. I don't really get scared in real life. Also, if you have problems with nightmares you can always talk to me about it.  We care about you.

Nah, I dream very rarely, and it usually isnt a scary one when I do dream.

No need to worry.

[BansheeOwnage]

TheConstantOne wrote...


If you're curious, my literalist ending of choice is still Synthesis though Leviathan almost changed that.

Don't want to start an argument, but you're okay with forcing something on billions of people? And trees? And plants and shrubs? AND GRASS? Oh the horror!

[BatmanTurian]

TheConstantOne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

So, I just noticed something blatantly obvious in refuse.

"I'll die knowing I did everything I could to stop you!"

So, Shepard sees the Guardian as an antagonist here. It also, implies he's always been the antagonist. Despite giving up in refuse, at least Shep saw through that idiot.

"And I'll die free."

This may be exactly what would happen in IT. Shepard break indoc, but dies.

Did anyone notice that Shepard is very echoey in that room. Just like the Guardian. I only really noticed after Levy, but it is very weird. Surreal even. Thoughts?

Edit: I'm on a roll! Take it!

I think Shepard's voice has an echo when Leviathan is speaking to him as well.  I'd check again to confirm this but I can't do so at the moment

Did you see that the camera was shaking while the thralls were speaking? Like on Rannoch but more noticeably, meaning that enthrallment is less subtle than indoctrination.

Hmm, no I did not see this.  When I play through the dlc again, I'll need to look for this.

Also, paxxton, I've always noticed your control banner but I finally realized just how healthy it is that you have that banner.  I mean, everyone needs a back up choice should the IT interpretation not pan out, and you were perhaps the first ITer I'm aware of to display this reality with pride.  Kudos to you sir!

If you're curious, my literalist ending of choice is still Synthesis though Leviathan almost changed that.

Anyway, no real reason why I went off on that tangent but I felt it should be voiced

I think it's admirable too, but I also think we should temper our choices with doubt after Leviathan. They throw a monkeywrench in the works no matter which choice you make.