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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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In an effort to bring this back to speculations: Can someone explain why so many people still think the epilogues (not necessarily the space scenes/Normandy scenes) are part of the indoctrination attempt and not actual depictions of the galaxy's future?

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Paxxton if you are then. Get in line. Lots of people want to be the Catalyst. Get it.

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masster blaster wrote...

And Estebanus and I am the soldier how does nothing, but scare the troops into chaos because of my insain ideas and grammer.

But since I am now the military councilmember, you are under my command. You here me, soldier? And in my unit, I expect decent speculations, and not insane nutcase ideas. DO YOU COPY, PRIVATE?!

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estebanus wrote...

Fine, if we get to choose what we want to be, then I'll be the leader of the conventional IT army!


Posh and hogwash! I invited you out for some good ol' fashioned shooting and you said you didn't like such things. I ain't riding a unicorn into battle against the reaper forces!

Now make me some moar pies! :wub:

I mean, uh, :devil:

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Modifié par estebanus, 02 août 2012 - 12:43 .


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Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The AI isn't Shepard. Says so itself. I don't trust a reaper. Especially in a literal ending...


That depends on how you look at it. I see it as AI Shepard. S/he still have the old Shepard's memories, prerfrences, idealism... Honetly I would trust an AI to lead the Reapers much more than a mere human. After all, an AI can't be power hungry. :P

No, sorry it isn'st Shepard. Period. In the ME universe, you can't take an AI and move it to another quantum bluebox, and have it be the same AI.


I dont know if either of you know the Halo lore well enough to get this reference, but saying the Catalyst!Shep is the same as Shep is like saying Cortana is the same as Dr Halsey.

Exactly.

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TSA no I am not. I am just making a laugh out of it and it's true. Beware of Blaster the Destroyer of worlds and threads. For I lead an army of bunnys and they are the most deadlist bunnys in all of ME.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fine, if we get to choose what we want to be, then I'll be the leader of the conventional IT army!


Posh and hogwash! I invited you out for some good ol' fashioned shooting and you said you didn't like such things. I ain't riding a unicorn into battle against the reaper forces!

Now make me some moar pies! :wub:

I mean, uh, :devil:

Weapons are not toys. They're killing machines, and should only be handled by soldiers!

Modifié par estebanus, 02 août 2012 - 12:44 .


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Simon_Says wrote...

In an effort to bring this back to speculations: Can someone explain why so many people still think the epilogues (not necessarily the space scenes/Normandy scenes) are part of the indoctrination attempt and not actual depictions of the galaxy's future?

Maybe because in at least 2 of them, make-no-sense happens.

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N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

And someone is leading the armies. And this certain someone is a big fan of "pie."

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N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

Huh. Was there something about an IT council?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
The AI isn't Shepard. Says so itself. I don't trust a reaper. Especially in a literal ending...


That depends on how you look at it. I see it as AI Shepard. S/he still have the old Shepard's memories, prerfrences, idealism... Honetly I would trust an AI to lead the Reapers much more than a mere human. After all, an AI can't be power hungry. :P

No, sorry it isn'st Shepard. Period. In the ME universe, you can't take an AI and move it to another quantum bluebox, and have it be the same AI.


I dont know if either of you know the Halo lore well enough to get this reference, but saying the Catalyst!Shep is the same as Shep is like saying Cortana is the same as Dr Halsey.

Exactly.


Banshee, I made that reference specifically for you, and then you left the thread for a few hours!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image

I am the Catalyst. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

Huh. Was there something about an IT council?


No no, your getting it wrong, I was born in London you know lol

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paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image

I am the Catalyst. Posted Image


Even Catalyst!Shep admits it isnt Shepard. I wish you'd stop lying to yourself.

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Can you make me a pie Estebauns. Since you are a pie maker, I guess I desserve some pie because of my heroic efforts in the Reaper war sir.

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masster blaster wrote...

Paxxton if you are then. Get in line. Lots of people want to be the Catalyst. Get it.

I don't want to. I am. Posted Image

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I have no sympathy for any of you feculent maggots and no more patience to pretend otherwise. Gentlemen, I wash my hands of this weirdness.

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Simon_Says wrote...

I have no sympathy for any of you feculent maggots and no more patience to pretend otherwise. Gentlemen, I wash my hands of this weirdness.


Forever or just for today?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

Huh. Was there something about an IT council?

Yes. Apparently, Masster Blaster (the same guy who thinks you're Chris Priestly) thought that there was an IT council, I asked who those might be, he answered, I disagreed, and it pretty much escalated from that point.

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image

I am the Catalyst. Posted Image


Even Catalyst!Shep admits it isnt Shepard. I wish you'd stop lying to yourself.

Semantics. Posted Image

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Maybe I should stay away for a week..

Nuts.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

N7L4D wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

What is happening? Posted Image


Well apparently someone is the catalyst 
And someone else is in control, no one is telling him what to do


We destroy them or they destroy us

Huh. Was there something about an IT council?

Yes. Apparently, Masster Blaster (the same guy who thinks you're Chris Priestly) thought that there was an IT council, I asked who those might be, he answered, I disagreed, and it pretty much escalated from that point.


Yeah, we should probably just stop talking about it.

It seems the past few days whenever masster has come in, the thread has gone downhill.

Nothing against you or anything, masster, just pointing out a trend I noticed.