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[BansheeOwnage]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well I have played Crysis 2 and even with Armor mode on that suit dosent take to much punsihment, but off course it depends on where they fight.

And yeah a Gauss rifle or that Microwave thing might work better.

But maybe we should get back on topic.

I think it would take more punishment in canon (this is a .50 cal) but then again, so would the Mjolnir shielding. The nanosuit is a hit and run device, so yeah, it would probably lose against a spartan, who is supposed to fight continuously for ages; a tank.

Also, the current topic sucks. It's debating Shepard being on the citadel or not.

Top! Yay!

 by Dwailing

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:13 .

[Home run MF]

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to post a little hypothesis that I came up with last night in the shower.  http://social.biowar...0/blog/220828/  It's basically an explanation for how the Leviathans might think that synthetics and organics will always be in conflict without this actually being true.  I hope that it's actually a resonable hypothesis.

Uh, any thoughts on this? 

I still don't agree with their logic, but that's a really good write-up.

Thanks!  And I don't agree with the Leviathans'/Reapers' logic either.  My hope was to show WHY the Reapers and Leviathans would think that synthetics and organics would always come into conflict.  Doesn't mean they're right, but I think that it's important to understand their reasoning.

But is the Catalyst/AI shackled or not? Because if it is not what is keeping it from screwing the directives and do whatever it wants? I mean it is fully self aware and capable of learning right?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well I have played Crysis 2 and even with Armor mode on that suit dosent take to much punsihment, but off course it depends on where they fight.

And yeah a Gauss rifle or that Microwave thing might work better.

But maybe we should get back on topic.

I think it would take more punishment in canon (this is a .50 cal) but then again, so would the Mjolnir shielding. The nanosuit is a hit and run device, so yeah, it would probably lose against a spartan, who is supposed to fight continuously for ages; a tank.

Also, the current topic sucks. It's debating Shepard being on the citadel or not.

Top! Yay!

Yeah I know, but I cant get enough of comparing that explosion to a nuke and laugh when people still think Shepard could survive.

[BansheeOwnage]

Home run MF wrote...

But is the Catalyst/AI shackled or not? Because if it is not what is keeping it from screwing the directives and do whatever it wants? I mean it is fully self aware and capable of learning right?

We don't know if it is shackled or not, or if the "Intelligence" is the "catalyst" or not.

[TheConstantOne]

BatmanTurian wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

Restrider wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I know. We should also stop talking about the breath scene being on the citadel or earth seriously. These idiots just will get it. Maybe physics should be a required course in school?

Physics is not a required course in school were you live? Oh the humanity!

It was never required at my school either...it was listed as an "optional science."

Speaking as someone who majored in physics at college and as rational human being, I cannot even conceive of why basic physics isn't considered essential knowledge in my old neighborhood. There are some things that people just need to know

It's a class most of BSN should take over again, apparently.

Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

[BansheeOwnage]

Lokanaiya wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I know. We should also stop talking about the breath scene being on the citadel or earth seriously. These idiots just will get it. Maybe physics should be a required course in school?

Physics is not a required course in school were you live? Oh the humanity!

Alas, no.  Where are you?

...It's not? Where do you live?

Canada. Are you seriously telling me that physics is required in Texas and not here? Because if you are, that's just plain sad.

[BansheeOwnage]

TheConstantOne wrote...


Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

That's terrible. Most people don't even know what "mass" is. They think it's weight.

[RavenEyry]

hangmans tree wrote...
Well, the place where Shep was looks mighty fine to me after teh xplosion. I rather call it space magic and bad writing...
Concrete also mathes the one in the chamber with Casper Unfriendly ghost, why wont you link that video too, huh? The one with free roam camera where some dude makes comparisons of all elements in the rubble and the textures used in the final chamber, that it matches...

But like I said, space magic, or Shep was ported by somebody/something the last second to earth (some frindly keeper maybe?)
So maybe you should get a little closer to earth, hmm?

I'm not in denial, vice versa rather.
You see it all break down to lots of speculations for everyone. If you dont see that and cant admit there is something to it that is your problem and your right to see it that way. But does it give you the right to call me anything, more so cute...

BTW do you see what really is causing damage to the Citadel? Its the debris that is pulled by glowing space magic. Citadel DOES NOT XPLODE due to the beam, that fireball happens in spce where the device is ( I forgot what it is called). If the explosion was the force of [huge number] of hiroshima a-bomb there wouldnt be any Citadel center left. End of story.
And what is the first explosion u are talkng about? The one by the pipes?  When Shep shoots? So what? this is sci-fi, you dont have a problem with Vakarian taking a missile to the face? Or any other heroic fall, biotic throw, fire,
space magic stunt through out ME2-3?
Le sigh.

Tl;dr: The tower wasn't blown to smithereens so anyone inside should be fine. Unshielded and profusely bleeding Shepard could easily survive the smaller explosion we know they were standing in the middle of.

My response: Hahahahahaha *snort* hahahahaha!

[BatmanTurian]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Well I have played Crysis 2 and even with Armor mode on that suit dosent take to much punsihment, but off course it depends on where they fight.

And yeah a Gauss rifle or that Microwave thing might work better.

But maybe we should get back on topic.

I think it would take more punishment in canon (this is a .50 cal) but then again, so would the Mjolnir shielding. The nanosuit is a hit and run device, so yeah, it would probably lose against a spartan, who is supposed to fight continuously for ages; a tank.

Also, the current topic sucks. It's debating Shepard being on the citadel or not.

Top! Yay!

Yeah I know, but I cant get enough of comparing that explosion to a nuke and laugh when people still think Shepard could survive.

THIS. It amuses me to watch trolls dance around trying to explain how an augmented human being can survive a blast the equivalent of 5 million hiroshimas.

[GreatBlueHeron]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

I'm going for the obvious "it's only a made-up story" theory. I'm not trying to troll. It's honestly the only way I can make sense of the terrible endings.

I'd prefer to believe it's not bad writing, as the evidence suggests. If you want to be a pessimist, by all means do so. I just hope we'll all get answers...

Bioware is the pessimist. 

There are no legit paragon ending choices for the game.  Every single one of them is varying degrees of renegade.  How I played my Shepard does not align with any of the choices.  I'm not sure that the writing is bad (after all, the endings still manage to make me cry--this is an emotional game for me), just incredibly depressing.  I do appreciate the dark side of things, but the endings go completely against the theme of the series.  Your choices amount to 1. commit genocide, 2. play a god, 3. take away autonomy and 4. commit a ton a genocide by doing nothing.  Terrible, terrible, terrible. 

[Dwailing]

Home run MF wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to post a little hypothesis that I came up with last night in the shower.  http://social.biowar...0/blog/220828/  It's basically an explanation for how the Leviathans might think that synthetics and organics will always be in conflict without this actually being true.  I hope that it's actually a resonable hypothesis.

Uh, any thoughts on this? 

I still don't agree with their logic, but that's a really good write-up.

Thanks!  And I don't agree with the Leviathans'/Reapers' logic either.  My hope was to show WHY the Reapers and Leviathans would think that synthetics and organics would always come into conflict.  Doesn't mean they're right, but I think that it's important to understand their reasoning.

But is the Catalyst/AI shackled or not? Because if it is not what is keeping it from screwing the directives and do whatever it wants? I mean it is fully self aware and capable of learning right?

They never actually say whether The Intelligence is shackled or not.  I mean, the Leviathans say that it betrayed them, but it's likely that it was just following what it thought was the best course of action.  And I think that as long as it THOUGHT it was following their directives, shackled or not, I think it would be able to do what it thought was best, i.e. creating the Reapers.  That's just my thoughts on the matter, though, it's quite possible that I'm wrong.

Modifié par Dwailing, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:19 .

[BatmanTurian]

TheConstantOne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

Restrider wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I know. We should also stop talking about the breath scene being on the citadel or earth seriously. These idiots just will get it. Maybe physics should be a required course in school?

Physics is not a required course in school were you live? Oh the humanity!

It was never required at my school either...it was listed as an "optional science."

Speaking as someone who majored in physics at college and as rational human being, I cannot even conceive of why basic physics isn't considered essential knowledge in my old neighborhood. There are some things that people just need to know

It's a class most of BSN should take over again, apparently.

Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

That is.... *shakes head*

[Dwailing]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...


Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

That's terrible. Most people don't even know what "mass" is. They think it's weight.

Mass is the ammount of matter that something contains.  That mean that your mass is the same whether you're on the Earth or on the Moon, but your weight changes based on gravity, right?

[BatmanTurian]

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

I'm going for the obvious "it's only a made-up story" theory. I'm not trying to troll. It's honestly the only way I can make sense of the terrible endings.

I'd prefer to believe it's not bad writing, as the evidence suggests. If you want to be a pessimist, by all means do so. I just hope we'll all get answers...

Bioware is the pessimist. 

There are no legit paragon ending choices for the game.  Every single one of them is varying degrees of renegade.  How I played my Shepard does not align with any of the choices.  I'm not sure that the writing is bad (after all, the endings still manage to make me cry--this is an emotional game for me), just incredibly depressing.  I do appreciate the dark side of things, but the endings go completely against the theme of the series.  Your choices amount to 1. commit genocide, 2. play a god, 3. take away autonomy and 4. commit a ton a genocide by doing nothing.  Terrible, terrible, terrible. 

You're not looking deep enough. Skin-deep on a story like this is too shallow.

[TSA_383]

TJBartlemus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...
3-Interesting thought - All of the Leviathan's thralls were doing something whilst being controlled, that is, their minds were somewhere else in an alternate reality but they were still moving around and doing things under control of the Leviathans. Personally I think this does great things for the overlay theory. I'm still very much struggling to give a ****, but personally I think that fact alone could have implications later.

Or WNT?!?!? 

PS. Just catching up and responding to some things I find interesting. Be back later.

Well yes, I'm beginning to think you might be somewhere close to the mark, not necessarily though.
It's pretty clear following Leviathan what's going on at the end sequence, the only question remains as to what Shepard's body is physically doing.

Also, not to worry about Leviathan sales killing off the SP DLC plan, apparently:
https://twitter.com/...683116576178178 

[BatmanTurian]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...


Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

That's terrible. Most people don't even know what "mass" is. They think it's weight.

Mass is the ammount of matter that something contains.  That mean that your mass is the same whether you're on the Earth or on the Moon, but your weight changes based on gravity, right?

Gravity is a warping of space/time by something with a large amount of mass that pulls on smaller massed objects.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:23 .

[estebanus]

BANSHEE!

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

Mass is the ammount of matter that something contains.  That mean that your mass is the same whether you're on the Earth or on the Moon, but your weight changes based on gravity, right?

Simply put but accurate. [/TIM]

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:26 .

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BANSHEE!

Hello! I'm on top of this page!

[GreatBlueHeron]

BatmanTurian wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

I'm going for the obvious "it's only a made-up story" theory. I'm not trying to troll. It's honestly the only way I can make sense of the terrible endings.

That's lazy thinking but expected from most players, I guess.

Lazy thinking?  Really?  That's all you got?  Try harder next time.

And to answer an earlier poster (my response got eaten up somehow), Bioware is the pessimist.

There are no legit paragon ending choices.  The way that I played my Shepard the endings simply do not gel.  Here are your choices:

1. play a god (this is bad)
2. take away autonomy
3.  genocide
4.  even more genocide because you do nothing

I love the game and I can appreciate the dark side of things, but these choices absolutely do not follow with the theme of the game.  The rug was pulled out from under my feet.  What happened to teamwork, cooperation and overcoming insurmountable odds by doing the right thing?  I still cry at the end because I'm emotionally invested into the game, but the end leaves me disappointed.  The best place to quit playing is right after Anderson dies.      

[Lokanaiya]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
I know. We should also stop talking about the breath scene being on the citadel or earth seriously. These idiots just will get it. Maybe physics should be a required course in school?

Physics is not a required course in school were you live? Oh the humanity!

Alas, no.  Where are you?

...It's not? Where do you live?

Canada. Are you seriously telling me that physics is required in Texas and not here? Because if you are, that's just plain sad.

Yeah. Chemistry, Biology, and Chemistry are all required to graduate.

Well, at least you don't have to deal with Creationism being taught in schools.

[BansheeOwnage]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Yeah. Chemistry, Biology, and Chemistry are all required to graduate.

Well, at least you don't have to deal with Creationism being taught in schools.

Hahaha! Well there is that. Everything has its ups and downs I guess.

[BatmanTurian]

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

I'm going for the obvious "it's only a made-up story" theory. I'm not trying to troll. It's honestly the only way I can make sense of the terrible endings.

That's lazy thinking but expected from most players, I guess.

Lazy thinking?  Really?  That's all you got?  Try harder next time.

And to answer an earlier poster (my response got eaten up somehow), Bioware is the pessimist.

There are no legit paragon ending choices.  The way that I played my Shepard the endings simply do not gel.  Here are your choices:

1. play a god (this is bad)
2. take away autonomy
3.  genocide
4.  even more genocide because you do nothing

I love the game and I can appreciate the dark side of things, but these choices absolutely do not follow with the theme of the game.  The rug was pulled out from under my feet.  What happened to teamwork, cooperation and overcoming insurmountable odds by doing the right thing?  I still cry at the end because I'm emotionally invested into the game, but the end leaves me disappointed.  The best place to quit playing is right after Anderson dies.      

Alright, well if you don't like the story, no reason to stick around here.

[GreatBlueHeron]

BatmanTurian wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

I'm going for the obvious "it's only a made-up story" theory. I'm not trying to troll. It's honestly the only way I can make sense of the terrible endings.

I'd prefer to believe it's not bad writing, as the evidence suggests. If you want to be a pessimist, by all means do so. I just hope we'll all get answers...

Bioware is the pessimist. 

There are no legit paragon ending choices for the game.  Every single one of them is varying degrees of renegade.  How I played my Shepard does not align with any of the choices.  I'm not sure that the writing is bad (after all, the endings still manage to make me cry--this is an emotional game for me), just incredibly depressing.  I do appreciate the dark side of things, but the endings go completely against the theme of the series.  Your choices amount to 1. commit genocide, 2. play a god, 3. take away autonomy and 4. commit a ton a genocide by doing nothing.  Terrible, terrible, terrible. 

You're not looking deep enough. Skin-deep on a story like this is too shallow.

What I'm pointing out is the deeper meaning.  The shallow side is this:

Control-- The reapers no longer attack--therefore peace
Synthesis--Everyone lives in harmony
Destroy--The reapers no longer exist--therefore peace
Refuse--Shepard has integrety, if nothing else


Since you think there's some kind of deeper meaning to this game where there's clearly not, I would love to hear your take on things.  If you're going to answer something along the means of "you wouldn't understand anyways", then don't bother replying.  You obviously have nothing. 

[TheConstantOne]

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...


Perhaps the most popular and most terrible exchange I've ever heard:

"Are people less massive on the moon?"

"Yes."

"......" 

I have heard that too may times from people who should know better.  I'm not blaming these people, some of them have honestly never been exposed to such knowledge before...that's what disturbs me

That's terrible. Most people don't even know what "mass" is. They think it's weight.

Mass is the ammount of matter that something contains.  That mean that your mass is the same whether you're on the Earth or on the Moon, but your weight changes based on gravity, right?

Correct.  A person's rest mass is the same anywhere.  So a person would be just as massive on the moon as on Earth.  However, a person's weight on the moon is less because they are interacting with a less massive object.