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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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RavenEyry

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I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

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BatmanTurian wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Norlond wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...
 there's nothing in-game to confirm it


:blink:


Just let it go. I told him to look deeper. He would rather complain and make up things to support his complaints.


Times like this make me wish HellishFiend, FellishBeast, and Arian were around at the moment.

Haven't seen them for some time. I wonder where they vanished.

Modifié par paxxton, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:53 .


#18353
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GreatBlueHeron wrote...

One can like a pizza...see a topping on there that they don't like...pick it off and still eat the pizza.  Not liking a particular topping does not mean that one therefore doesn't like pizza. 

I don't agree with IT.  It's interesting to speculate about, but there's nothing in-game to confirm it.  If it is IT and Bioware releases dlc with the REAL ending, even more people are going to be pissed.


A topping isn't integral to a pizza... The ending sort of is. Especially since, if you take it literally, and even if you don't it changes everything.

But, I'm curious, why are you here?

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RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".


You mean it wasnt?!

For some reason the idea of 5000+ pages consisting of nothing but 'Yeah, cool.' made me laugh pretty hard.

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RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".


Hence why I think it's lazy thinking besides the fact that they don't seem to have been paying attention.

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BatmanTurian

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byne wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".


You mean it wasnt?!

For some reason the idea of 5000+ pages consisting of nothing but 'Yeah, cool.' made me laugh pretty hard.


Yeah, cool.

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BatmanTurian

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paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Norlond wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...
 there's nothing in-game to confirm it


:blink:


Just let it go. I told him to look deeper. He would rather complain and make up things to support his complaints.


Times like this make me wish HellishFiend, FellishBeast, and Arian were around at the moment.

Haven't seen them for some time. I wonder where they vanished.


I think Arian is a student... Not sure about the other two.

EDIT: Arian's profile shows he was in this thread 7 days ago.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:57 .


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RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

I doubt they even bothered reading the OP

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RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it

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estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

I doubt they even bothered reading the OP


"What? IT? Pics or it didn't happen!"

*loads of evidence appears, picture analysis, documentaries...*

"Umm... it's bad writing, can't be true"

*"IT is still a valid interpretation of the ending"*

"He's lying"

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paxxton

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BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Norlond wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...
 there's nothing in-game to confirm it


:blink:


Just let it go. I told him to look deeper. He would rather complain and make up things to support his complaints.


Times like this make me wish HellishFiend, FellishBeast, and Arian were around at the moment.

Haven't seen them for some time. I wonder where they vanished.


I think Arian is a student... Not sure about the other two.

Afaik Hellish is a student too + he's probably cooking episode 2 of Choose Wisely with Turbo_J. Fellish was attacked by enraged crows. Posted Image

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Yeah, cool.

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BatmanTurian

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Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it


What point are you trying to make? I'm confused.

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Samtheman63

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it


What point are you trying to make? I'm confused.

backing up the guy who said there was nothing ingame to confirm IT

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BatmanTurian

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Norlond wrote...

estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

I doubt they even bothered reading the OP


"What? IT? Pics or it didn't happen!"

*loads of evidence appears, picture analysis, documentaries...*

"Umm... it's bad writing, can't be true"

*"IT is still a valid interpretation of the ending"*

"He's lying"


The last 7 months in a nutshell.

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estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

I doubt they even bothered reading the OP


To be fair, have you seen the Mark I OP? I wouldnt exactly blame them for not reading it. Its kind of a mess.

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BatmanTurian

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Samtheman63 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it


What point are you trying to make? I'm confused.

backing up the guy who said there was nothing ingame to confirm IT


But there is. Whether you accept the evidence or not is not our problem. It exists and it's a valid interpretation according to Bioware.

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RavenEyry

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Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it

Semantics man. There's nothing to 'confirm' everything happens at face value either but I don't post that in random threads discussing the literal ending.

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estebanus wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

I doubt they even bothered reading the OP


To be fair it wass a bit of a mess in the beginning. :P

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BatmanTurian wrote...

But there is. Whether you accept the evidence or not is not our problem. It exists and it's a valid interpretation according to Bioware.


To be fair there is no absolute evidence, nothing that makes IT 100% certain.

But there is a mountain of hints, clues and ideas as opposed to the plotholes you could fly the Destiny Ascension through in the current ending.

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BatmanTurian

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RavenEyry wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it

Semantics man. There's nothing to 'confirm' everything happens at face value either but I don't post that in random threads discussing the literal ending.


At this point, any " confirmation " can only come from Word of God.

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Samtheman63

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I assume everyone who says there's no evidence assumes the whole topic was just Byne saying "What if Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by thousands of pages of people going "Yeah, cool".

the guy said there was nothing to "confirm" it, which obviously there isn't otherwise this thread wouldn't be here and IT would be 100% real and everyone would believe it


What point are you trying to make? I'm confused.

backing up the guy who said there was nothing ingame to confirm IT


But there is. Whether you accept the evidence or not is not our problem. It exists and it's a valid interpretation according to Bioware.

There isnt lol, im all for IT dont get me wrong, its great.  But if it was confirmed ingame then there wouldnt be a theory, there wouldjust be the ending where shepard is being indoctrinated, and everyone would accept it. 


However there is plenty of ingame evidence to support the theory

Modifié par Samtheman63, 03 septembre 2012 - 09:07 .


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Analogy: Gravity's confirmed and quantum mechanics are confirmed, but they're both not 100% true

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

But there is. Whether you accept the evidence or not is not our problem. It exists and it's a valid interpretation according to Bioware.


To be fair there is no absolute evidence, nothing that makes IT 100% certain.

But there is a mountain of hints, clues and ideas as opposed to the plotholes you could fly the Destiny Ascension through in the current ending.


You guys are confusing proof with evidence.

Proof is verifiable. Evidence is data to back up a theory.

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Sam's right. Kind of. He's saying there is no proof of IT. Which is true. If there was absolute proof, that would be the end of the discussion. All we have is evidence. Yes, I know we have a rediculous amount of compelling evidence, but no proof. The indoctrination theory is just that: a theory. It is however, a theory like gravity, or evolution. It is the thing right below fact. It's "true."

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Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 septembre 2012 - 09:09 .