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[Paulinesh]

hangmans tree wrote...

... it seems that they are putting in hidden clues that can only be
found by analyzing the game files rather than being found through actual
gameplay. =)

WHAT? And IT is based on that kind of 'evidence'? Someone explain how did this happen... Clearly EA nad BW are trying to indoctrinate the players <_<

May be we're all indoctrinated

[RavenEyry]

hangmans tree wrote...
BTW this is in the quthors description of one of the IT videos luinked in the OP:

UPDATE:

Apparently Bioware hadn't intended the Indoctrination
Theory all along. Although the IT with its many arguments makes
perfectly sense (also within the lore), Bioware tells us that it is all
merely coincidence... they want us to take the endings at face value.

I think the new endings are very nice but should've been in the game right from the beginning!

However,
unfortunately Bioware showed us that we have to take the endings at
face value, no profound mind struggle, no indoctrination attempt,
everything happened as we have seen it. Bioware has missed the chance to
write gaming history by delivering us one of the greatest mind blowing
twists ever...but it was not to be.

Fortunately everybody can choose his/her own personal ending... whether it is IT or not Therefore we have our own fantasy...

Choose whatever pleases you and remember all the great moments in the entire trilogy

Gasp! A single fan who made a video no longer agrees with IT! Well that certainly means everyone should stop talking about it.

[hangmans tree]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Wow I dident know the sun couldnt burn then, because that is what you are syaing right here.


Fire can burn in space as long as the right parameters are met, namely as long as there is fuel and oxygen around. And while Space does not contain either, such things can come from other places, like the exploding object.

it's not fire. Fire is oxidation. The Sun is plasma produced by nuclear fusion. Google it or go back to school.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
And lets look at it. The explosions originate inside the Citadel bursting outwards from what we see with the biggest one appearing near the presidium ring. Now what was near here as well? Ah right the Crucible, the object described as consuming "oceans of fuel" when activated oh and off course there is the Citadel itself with all its systems.

Now what about oxygen...well once again we are on the Citadel both the wards and the presidium is habitable with a seemingly infinite supply of oxygen. A fiery explosion reaching outside the station as we see simply stands to prove that the Citadel shell has been breaches in multiple places by the force of the explosion.

That also means Shepard by all logical reasons if not burned to a crisp is now without an oxygen supply.

Also if the above is not the case it is just anotehr point in the surreal book for the ending and even if you seem to have missed the memo Mass Effect has always operated along the lines of existing theories and physics with only a minimal of new stuff (like Eezo) introduced to make the setting possible.

Crucible - highly unlikely to have oxygen, its a tool not a space vessel, its unmanned, a big rod. What burns in absolute zero without oxygen?

[spotlessvoid]

Because Shepard is in an area with oxygen when the explosion occurs.

hangmans tree...
WHAT? And IT is based on that kind of 'evidence'? Someone explain how did this happen... Clearly EA nad BW are trying to indoctrinate the players

Yep, all we have for evidence is 3 sound files, an anonymous tweet, and a fairly debatable graphical glitch. Oh, and the 4th Marauder in priority London has red balls instead of blue balls.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 04 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

hangmans tree wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Wow I dident know the sun couldnt burn then, because that is what you are syaing right here.


Fire can burn in space as long as the right parameters are met, namely as long as there is fuel and oxygen around. And while Space does not contain either, such things can come from other places, like the exploding object.

it's not fire. Fire is oxidation. The Sun is plasma produced by nuclear fusion. Google it or go back to school.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
And lets look at it. The explosions originate inside the Citadel bursting outwards from what we see with the biggest one appearing near the presidium ring. Now what was near here as well? Ah right the Crucible, the object described as consuming "oceans of fuel" when activated oh and off course there is the Citadel itself with all its systems.

Now what about oxygen...well once again we are on the Citadel both the wards and the presidium is habitable with a seemingly infinite supply of oxygen. A fiery explosion reaching outside the station as we see simply stands to prove that the Citadel shell has been breaches in multiple places by the force of the explosion.

That also means Shepard by all logical reasons if not burned to a crisp is now without an oxygen supply.

Also if the above is not the case it is just anotehr point in the surreal book for the ending and even if you seem to have missed the memo Mass Effect has always operated along the lines of existing theories and physics with only a minimal of new stuff (like Eezo) introduced to make the setting possible.

Crucible - highly unlikely to have oxygen, its a tool not a space vessel, its unmanned, a big rod. What burns in absolute zero without oxygen?

I do know the sun doesnt burn from oxidation, it was a joke...also for somone who wants me to go back to school you seem to not read half of what i said and what you did comment on you dident seem to understand.

But right now you are dodging what I write (and beeing wrong as well). First of the Crucible is manned as seen in this little war asset: The Haptics Optics Array is an experimental computer user interface,
Cortical implants allow users to "see" screens projected in front of
them. A user's eye movements are tracked, syncing to hand gestures as
they sift through data. While disorienting at first, people using the
Optics Array report increased efficiency, and the technology has been
adapted by several dozen engineers for use on the Crucible.


But that dosent really matter since if you actually read what I said you would I was bringing the Crucible in as a source of fuel for the explosion, you know like in an explosion needing fuel and oxygen.

The oxygen supply for the explosion could come from the Citadel itself, you know the massive space station with enough oxygen for a population in the millions, which we clearly see is breached by explosions appearing all over it.

[RavenEyry]

I assumed the crucible was manned because Hackett expected something to happen as soon as it docked.

[Restrider]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Wow I dident know the sun couldnt burn then, because that is what you are syaing right here.


Fire can burn in space as long as the right parameters are met, namely as long as there is fuel and oxygen around. And while Space does not contain either, such things can come from other places, like the exploding object.

it's not fire. Fire is oxidation. The Sun is plasma produced by nuclear fusion. Google it or go back to school.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
And lets look at it. The explosions originate inside the Citadel bursting outwards from what we see with the biggest one appearing near the presidium ring. Now what was near here as well? Ah right the Crucible, the object described as consuming "oceans of fuel" when activated oh and off course there is the Citadel itself with all its systems.

Now what about oxygen...well once again we are on the Citadel both the wards and the presidium is habitable with a seemingly infinite supply of oxygen. A fiery explosion reaching outside the station as we see simply stands to prove that the Citadel shell has been breaches in multiple places by the force of the explosion.

That also means Shepard by all logical reasons if not burned to a crisp is now without an oxygen supply.

Also if the above is not the case it is just anotehr point in the surreal book for the ending and even if you seem to have missed the memo Mass Effect has always operated along the lines of existing theories and physics with only a minimal of new stuff (like Eezo) introduced to make the setting possible.

Crucible - highly unlikely to have oxygen, its a tool not a space vessel, its unmanned, a big rod. What burns in absolute zero without oxygen?

I do know the sun doesnt burn from oxidation, it was a joke...also for somone who wants me to go back to school you seem to not read half of what i said and what you did comment on you dident seem to understand.

But right now you are dodging what I write (and beeing wrong as well). First of the Crucible is manned as seen in this little war asset: The Haptics Optics Array is an experimental computer user interface,
Cortical implants allow users to "see" screens projected in front of
them. A user's eye movements are tracked, syncing to hand gestures as
they sift through data. While disorienting at first, people using the
Optics Array report increased efficiency, and the technology has been
adapted by several dozen engineers for use on the Crucible.


But that dosent really matter since if you actually read what I said you would I was bringing the Crucible in as a source of fuel for the explosion, you know like in an explosion needing fuel and oxygen.

The oxygen supply for the explosion could come from the Citadel itself, you know the massive space station with enough oxygen for a population in the millions, which we clearly see is breached by explosions appearing all over it.

ADDENDUM TO THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS:

E = 78 945 MT = 330,31*10^15 J
Applying the infamous equation E = m * c² we get a mass equivalent of 
m = 330,31*10^15 J /(299792458 m/sec)² = 3,68 kg
On the other hand, this is merely the explosion. As we all know from the scene I analyzed, the biggest amount of energy is sent to the Relays in form of a coherent beam. So the energies at the core of the emission would naturally be a lot higher. The stated numbers are just a lower limit.

Anyway, Shepard can't survive that!

Modifié par Restrider, 04 septembre 2012 - 09:48 .

[hangmans tree]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

I do know the sun doesnt burn from oxidation, it was a joke...also for somone who wants me to go back to school you seem to not read half of what i said and what you did comment on you dident seem to understand.

But right now you are dodging what I write (and beeing wrong as well). First of the Crucible is manned as seen in this little war asset: The Haptics Optics Array is an experimental computer user interface,
Cortical implants allow users to "see" screens projected in front of
them. A user's eye movements are tracked, syncing to hand gestures as
they sift through data. While disorienting at first, people using the
Optics Array report increased efficiency, and the technology has been
adapted by several dozen engineers for use on the Crucible.


But that dosent really matter since if you actually read what I said you would I was bringing the Crucible in as a source of fuel for the explosion, you know like in an explosion needing fuel and oxygen.

The oxygen supply for the explosion could come from the Citadel itself, you know the massive space station with enough oxygen for a population in the millions, which we clearly see is breached by explosions appearing all over it.

Crucible is unmanned from my point of view, the interface is a way to remote control Crucible I guess, or work on it[s construction]. Wasnt Hacket giving orders and all from command centre - where all the staff was overseeing actions and Crucibles movement? Seeing Crucibles crew would be vital to the docking wouldnt it be?
Besides why would Crucible need a live crew? Its probably automated.

Citadel oxy supply to the fire- if any, would suck fire into the Citadel not outside it. Like an implosion not explosion. you tell me that the circular ring would 'exhale so much  O2 for the explosion with the wards being intaact?
Be real. If you want to folow that route.

Again, BW want you to multiply their ravenue, IT provides them new evangelists to ME3 title/franchise - oh its so awesome!, let em talk about the IT ruse. They are really happy you came up with this, you perpetuate their money machine. That is why BW wont discredit not support IT.
Again, lots of speculations for everyone.

[hangmans tree]

Restrider wrote...
ADDENDUM TO THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS:

E = 78 945 MT = 330,31*10^15 J
Applying the infamous equation E = m * c² we get a mass equivalent of 
m = 330,31*10^15 J /(299792458 m/sec)² = 3,68 kg
On the other hand, this is merely the explosion. As we all know from the scene I analyzed, the biggest amount of energy is sent to the Relays in form of a coherent beam. So the energies at the core of the emission would naturally be a lot higher. The stated numbers are just a lower limit.

Anyway, Shepard can't survive that!

I dont follow, what are you calculating? How is this relevant to the discussion?

[RavenEyry]

You're once again blatantly insulting us and yet you get offended when Rifneno and I swear at you.

[hangmans tree]

RavenEyry wrote...

You're once again blatantly insulting us and yet you get offended when Rifneno and I swear at you.

Excuse me, how old are you? Please quote me insulting (why insult is censored?) you. Point thy finger at my exact words blatantly insulting you.

I post some questions, that are left without answers. In place of answers I get the postss along side the one quoted above...

Modifié par hangmans tree, 04 septembre 2012 - 10:10 .

[RavenEyry]

'Evangelists' springs to mind

[hangmans tree]

RavenEyry wrote...

'Evangelists' springs to mind

Its a marketing term, lol. Its not an insult, its "the most valuable group of fans" to any company... Google maybe?

[Restrider]

hangmans tree wrote...

Restrider wrote...
ADDENDUM TO THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS:

E = 78 945 MT = 330,31*10^15 J
Applying the infamous equation E = m * c² we get a mass equivalent of 
m = 330,31*10^15 J /(299792458 m/sec)² = 3,68 kg
On the other hand, this is merely the explosion. As we all know from the scene I analyzed, the biggest amount of energy is sent to the Relays in form of a coherent beam. So the energies at the core of the emission would naturally be a lot higher. The stated numbers are just a lower limit.

Anyway, Shepard can't survive that!

I dont follow, what are you calculating? How is this relevant to the discussion?

It gives you a lower boundary of the expelled energy. And for all we now, the fuel used in Mass Effect is either eezo or antimatter for that fact (though antimatter is not used much). So it is safe to say that the assumed fuel of the Crucible is eezo or antimatter (I think of the latter). Thus the whole oxygen discussion is pointless. You would only need an equivalent amount of normal matter to anihilate the antimatter and emit large amounts of energy in form of radiation. And there the Crucible is made of normal matter, so no long search for normal matter is needed.
As I showed, the equivalent mass of 3,68 kg is needed to induce the movement of the top Ward. But since the Crucible expells the biggest part of the energy in form of a coherent beam, the real amount of mass equivalent would be a lot higher, meaning we would need way more antimatter (which -in the lore- is hard to obtain).

The Citadel, being made off one of the most resilient materials, still suffers a lot under the emission of energy. And as pointed out earlier, the emission point would have a vastly higher amount of energydensity (comparable to a lense and its focus) than the numbers I calculated.

This boils down to the fact that Shepard cannot survive said energy emission. Period.

[RavenEyry]

Sigh. Maybe blatantly was the wrong word. 'Snide insinuations' might fit better. You first come to the thread asking why people are still here, implying it's somehow odd. Then you act like every joke is a serious statement and say things like 'go back to school'. Then you decide that we're just here to trick people into giving money to bioware or something.

It's quite possible you never meant any offense since you seem shocked every time someone calls you out for it. If so, please try thinking before posting or practicing politeness or something because nearly every post you make seems rude.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

hangmans tree wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

You're once again blatantly insulting us and yet you get offended when Rifneno and I swear at you.

Excuse me, how old are you? Please quote me insulting (why insult is censored?) you. Point thy finger at my exact words blatantly insulting you.

I post some questions, that are left without answers. In place of answers I get the postss along side the one quoted above...

Telling me to go back to school springs to mind, inf act i almost regret standing up for you when Rifneno crossed the line because you are becoming no better yourself.

Also you claim to not get answers but I am doing nothing but answering your questions and I find that you questions become more and more simple the further we get along.

Like your last one with oxygen, you wanna know why the fire is not drawn into the Citadel? Because the explosions originated from inside the Citadel.



Here is a link for a slowmotion up close look at the Citadel exploding. As is clearly seen several "smaller" (still a mile or more in diamater) explosions originate along the wards, many very close to the Presidium followed by a single massive explosion at 0.10 seemingly originating from the right hand side of the Presidium ring, possibly the base of the Presidium tower (around the place where Shepard is) and engulfing the entire Presidium ring for a few moments before disipating.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Restrider wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Restrider wrote...
ADDENDUM TO THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS:

E = 78 945 MT = 330,31*10^15 J
Applying the infamous equation E = m * c² we get a mass equivalent of 
m = 330,31*10^15 J /(299792458 m/sec)² = 3,68 kg
On the other hand, this is merely the explosion. As we all know from the scene I analyzed, the biggest amount of energy is sent to the Relays in form of a coherent beam. So the energies at the core of the emission would naturally be a lot higher. The stated numbers are just a lower limit.

Anyway, Shepard can't survive that!

I dont follow, what are you calculating? How is this relevant to the discussion?

It gives you a lower boundary of the expelled energy. And for all we now, the fuel used in Mass Effect is either eezo or antimatter for that fact (though antimatter is not used much). So it is safe to say that the assumed fuel of the Crucible is eezo or antimatter (I think of the latter). Thus the whole oxygen discussion is pointless. You would only need an equivalent amount of normal matter to anihilate the antimatter and emit large amounts of energy in form of radiation. And there the Crucible is made of normal matter, so no long search for normal matter is needed.
As I showed, the equivalent mass of 3,68 kg is needed to induce the movement of the top Ward. But since the Crucible expells the biggest part of the energy in form of a coherent beam, the real amount of mass equivalent would be a lot higher, meaning we would need way more antimatter (which -in the lore- is hard to obtain).

The Citadel, being made off one of the most resilient materials, still suffers a lot under the emission of energy. And as pointed out earlier, the emission point would have a vastly higher amount of energydensity (comparable to a lense and its focus) than the numbers I calculated.

This boils down to the fact that Shepard cannot survive said energy emission. Period.

Just a little point we know at least some of the fuel used in the Crucible is helium-3 from this war asset: The fuel pods scavenged from a field of debris in the Valhallan
Threshold were once attached to a fleet of merchant vessels making long,
risky journeys into uncharted space. The pods have been repurposed for
the Crucible project. When activated, the Crucible's fusion reactors
consume entire oceans of helium-3. The fuel pods serve as emergency
reservoirs, should the weapon use more power than expected.

[hangmans tree]

Restrider wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Restrider wrote...
ADDENDUM TO THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS:

E = 78 945 MT = 330,31*10^15 J
Applying the infamous equation E = m * c² we get a mass equivalent of 
m = 330,31*10^15 J /(299792458 m/sec)² = 3,68 kg
On the other hand, this is merely the explosion. As we all know from the scene I analyzed, the biggest amount of energy is sent to the Relays in form of a coherent beam. So the energies at the core of the emission would naturally be a lot higher. The stated numbers are just a lower limit.

Anyway, Shepard can't survive that!

I dont follow, what are you calculating? How is this relevant to the discussion?

It gives you a lower boundary of the expelled energy. And for all we now, the fuel used in Mass Effect is either eezo or antimatter for that fact (though antimatter is not used much). So it is safe to say that the assumed fuel of the Crucible is eezo or antimatter (I think of the latter). Thus the whole oxygen discussion is pointless. You would only need an equivalent amount of normal matter to anihilate the antimatter and emit large amounts of energy in form of radiation. And there the Crucible is made of normal matter, so no long search for normal matter is needed.
As I showed, the equivalent mass of 3,68 kg is needed to induce the movement of the top Ward. But since the Crucible expells the biggest part of the energy in form of a coherent beam, the real amount of mass equivalent would be a lot higher, meaning we would need way more antimatter (which -in the lore- is hard to obtain).

The Citadel, being made off one of the most resilient materials, still suffers a lot under the emission of energy. And as pointed out earlier, the emission point would have a vastly higher amount of energydensity (comparable to a lense and its focus) than the numbers I calculated.

This boils down to the fact that Shepard cannot survive said energy emission. Period.

Crucible runs on helium3. Citadel do not suffer any damage from the blast (at least visible) in any cutscene.
Minor explosions of wards are caused by DEBRIS hitting it. I'm not blind. I posted an image of screencaps of the explosion, it didnt cause any damage to the ring where this xplosion originated... so, why?
Space magaic that you ascribe too much credit in my opinion.
http://i46.tinypic.com/20zz493.jpg

Plus, we've dot black smoke after the explosion... in space...

You flood me with numbers and designs and theories saying I need to be on a higher education level to understand IT, and when I retort  with back to chool I get called on it? Maybe I souldnt do that, point taken.

Modifié par hangmans tree, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:02 .

[RavenEyry]

hangmans tree wrote...

You flood me with numbers and designs and theories saying I need to be on a higher education level to understand IT

The numbers are just someone calculating the force of the explosion. I don't understand it but I understand IT perfectly fine.

[hangmans tree]

RavenEyry wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

You flood me with numbers and designs and theories saying I need to be on a higher education level to understand IT

The numbers are just someone calculating the force of the explosion. I don't understand it but I understand IT perfectly fine.

You wan to play rhetorics and sematics with me? That is not what I said. Lol, I feel like trying to go through a concrete wall.

[RavenEyry]

hangmans tree wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

You flood me with numbers and designs and theories saying I need to be on a higher education level to understand IT

The numbers are just someone calculating the force of the explosion. I don't understand it but I understand IT perfectly fine.

You wan to play rhetorics and sematics with me? That is not what I said. Lol, I feel like trying to go through a concrete wall.

So do I. It certainly looks like what you said.

[Rifneno]

So I see hangman is still spouting crap. Did s/he ever respond to the posts about the Citadel being quantum shielded? Because it hilariously destroyed the only argument for Shepard's survival on the Citadel. Of course. ... Does anyone else hear backpeddling?

Restrider wrote...

This leads us to a total energy of E = 78 945 MT = 4934063 Hiroshima Bombs.

*But magic forcefields* --- Sounds legit.

LOL! 79 gigatons. That's a little more in the neighborhood of what you'd need to cause the damage we saw the Citadel, it being quantum shielded and all.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Ahh. Great! Your welcome. I actually made some minor changes to it recently to make it even more effective. Switched weapons to an Eagle (any +200% recharge pistol will do) put on melee stunner for more melee/SS damage, AP to deal with Guardians/heavy units. I also switch N7 Shadow upgrades 4 and 5 to power damage after learning it up SS damage. Left 6 at weapon damage because you already have 200% recharge so weight would be useless. In case you still want to know.

I am disappoint.

Canada. Are you seriously telling me that physics is required in Texas and not here? Because if you are, that's just plain sad.

Wow. You guys make fun of Texas up there too? I thought it was just the other 49 states. That's awesome. Canada!

BatmanTurian wrote...

lol hilarious. It's what we've been saying all along except no one was listening to us.

Legion: Our physical platform returned to the geth consensus beyond the Perseus Veil. Data gathered during our mission confirmed that the Old Machines' return was imminent. We planned for war.
Shepard: So the geth believed your proof that the Reapers were coming back?
Legion: Of course.
Shepard: That must have been nice.

I feel you, Shepard.

[Restrider]

hangmans tree wrote...
Crucible runs on helium3. Citadel do not suffer any damage from the blast (at least visible) in any cutscene.
Minor explosions of wards are caused by DEBRIS hitting it. I'm not blind. I posted an image of screencaps of the explosion, it didnt cause any damage to the ring where this xplosion originated... so, why?
Space magaic that you ascribe too much credit in my opinion.
http://i46.tinypic.com/20zz493.jpg

Plus, we've dot black smoke after the explosion... in space...

You flood me with numbers and designs and theories saying I need to be on a higher education level to understand IT, and when I retort  with back to chool I get called on it? Maybe I souldnt do that, point taken.

I am just showing what energies are released. The antimatter point was to show you that the source used is not a simple combustion engine or oxidation and thus no need for oxygen. I admit it, the antimatter was a mere speculation, but as He III is used, the next logical step would be some kind of fusion reaction or any other nuclear reaction. THERE IS NO NEED FOR OXYGEN!
And I use numbers to show you about what amounts of energy we speak off. Hence it would only be like:
-Shep can't survive
- Yes he can!
- No he cant!
- Yes he can!
- No he cant!
.
.
.
.
.
Well, it is similar now. But it goes more this way:
- No, he cannot because [insert: sh!tload of physical data retrieved from codex entries, war assets and normal physics]
- Yes he can because [insert: ...]

And I am well aware of the fact that the slideshow shows a kind of intact presidium. But who knows when that image actually was taken. The Crucible is gone, and the Wards are attached to the inner ring again. So there has been obviously some reconstruction been going on. And you would start at the Presidium and not at some random Ward.
€: Typos.

Modifié par Restrider, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

hangmans tree wrote...

Crucible runs on helium3. Citadel do not suffer any damage from the blast (at least visible) in any cutscene.
Minor explosions of wards are caused by DEBRIS hitting it. I'm not blind. I posted an image of screencaps of the explosion, it didnt cause any damage to the ring where this xplosion originated... so, why?
Space magaic that you ascribe too much credit in my opinion.

Oh that is rich, the citadel suffers no damage...look at this little vid:

Jump to 7.01 and watch. Massive holes, the presidium ring ripped up and a large part of a ward which has been blown of. No damage...yeah..

And caused by debris hitting it?

One question, what debris? The only debris in the area is destroyed ships and even that is not all that close. Plus the cahnces of the debris hitting...no wait scratch that there is no chance of any debris hitting the Citadel and cuasing the explosions becuase the Massive Red Wave of energy is clearly shown pushing debris away from it. Even if it was that is some seroius debris to cause miles wide explosions all along the wards....except according to you those explosions shouldnt be there, be I mean it is just metal hitting metal there, it should be like a moon impact except metallic.

Do you realize how ludicrous you are sounding?

Edit: You even linked the pictures yourself. Just because the Citadel tower is relatively intact (we are not even close enough to verify that and consideirng the massives holes in the wards...yeah) Shepard would still be deep fried because...well he was out in the open with nothing but a non heat blocking Mass Effect protecting him.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:14 .

[RavenEyry]

So what if the citadel suffers no visible damage (even though it does)? That doesn't make the explosion any less fatal.