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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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And even the picture shows a severely shattered Citadel!
Just admit it, there has to be such a huge amount of energy emission to cause that, that a human being cannot survive.

Edit: Top position... is this something remarkable?

Modifié par Restrider, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:22 .


#18652
RavenEyry

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Restrider wrote...
Edit: Top position... is this something remarkable?

Yes, you are now lord and master of this particular page.

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RavenEyry wrote...

Restrider wrote...
Edit: Top position... is this something remarkable?

Yes, you are now lord and master of this particular page.

Bow down before me, minions!
*I hope this adresses hangmans tree aswell*:pinched:

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GethPrimeMKII

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Lol wow. Hangmans Tree is still arguing that Shep survived the Citadel explosion?

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:37 .


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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Crucible runs on helium3. Citadel do not suffer any damage from the blast (at least visible) in any cutscene.
Minor explosions of wards are caused by DEBRIS hitting it. I'm not blind. I posted an image of screencaps of the explosion, it didnt cause any damage to the ring where this xplosion originated... so, why?
Space magaic that you ascribe too much credit in my opinion.


Oh that is rich, the citadel suffers no damage...look at this little vid:

Jump to 7.01 and watch. Massive holes, the presidium ring ripped up and a large part of a ward which has been blown of. No damage...yeah..

And caused by debris hitting it?

One question, what debris? The only debris in the area is destroyed ships and even that is not all that close. Plus the cahnces of the debris hitting...no wait scratch that there is no chance of any debris hitting the Citadel and cuasing the explosions becuase the Massive Red Wave of energy is clearly shown pushing debris away from it. Even if it was that is some seroius debris to cause miles wide explosions all along the wards....except according to you those explosions shouldnt be there, be I mean it is just metal hitting metal there, it should be like a moon impact except metallic.

Do you realize how ludicrous you are sounding?

Edit: You even linked the pictures yourself. Just because the Citadel tower is relatively intact (we are not even close enough to verify that and consideirng the massives holes in the wards...yeah) Shepard would still be deep fried because...well he was out in the open with nothing but a non heat blocking Mass Effect protecting him.

Watch the ending again and pay more attention. What does the debris do just before the beam light up? Oh - noes its pulled toward presidium!, and whole chunks of SOMETHING are falling onto wards... or am I blind and making thiu up playing ME3 through brile keyboard?

Like I said and posted before, damaged Citadel with its wing missing and all is mostly fine in the center ring after the explosion, THE RING IS WHOLE inthe pic I posted after the major explosion! Why are you trying to DISMISS that claim? I wonder.

And yes, Shep could have survived the explosion cause it was added just for the cool/wow factor... there is no physics behind that scene.

I ask again if you wanna stick to the theme - how do you explode something, with black smoke, in vacuum of space? Absolute zero and all that.
BTW to my mind there is not not enough amount of o2 in the presidum to justify that king of explosion. The explosion would be really small and die in a manner of seconds. Plus it would be a blue bulb of fire, if any. That what  no gravity and vacuum does.

Modifié par hangmans tree, 04 septembre 2012 - 11:56 .


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I even fear to ask what did I miss after Leviathan came out... All these argues and feeling smart and brave behind anonymous profile. Damn.

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Restrider wrote...

Edit: Top position... is this something remarkable?

Only because of an ongoing contest between me and Banshee. But yeah, congratulations! You're on top this time!

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Kelly Chambers prefers to be on top.

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Rifneno wrote...

Kelly Chambers prefers to be on top.

Haven't seen you in a while, Rifneno! Nice to see you again!

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Sup guys? I have been trying to connect the dots here between the DLCs, the possible future DLC = Retake Omega and the IT ending.

I know Arrival was Pre-ME3 but it has a significant bearing on the ME3 story, including it's main theme of Indoctrination. Leviathan also explored this theme heavily.
It's quite possible that Retake Omega will take this further as there would be very little else to reveal about the Omega station and I think the fans want more from DLC rather than mere extra gameplay. (It is my personal opinion that Omega was not a crucible prototype as previously suggested on this thread.) My attention is focused therefore on the interesting names that the Asari and Salarian's gave it ...."the heart of evil" & "the place of secrets.

Anyway, I was then thinking about From Ashes. On the outside this DLC seems to only briefly touch on Indoctrination and it seems only to be a 'bonus' level introducing Javik, and of little consequence to the overall plot and outcome. I've yet to re-play it but I was wondering if there is anything of interest in it that may make more sense (or even less sense) in light of what Leviathan has revealed?

Sorry if my post in unclear, I'm just thinking out loud.... :)

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estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Kelly Chambers prefers to be on top.

Haven't seen you in a while, Rifneno! Nice to see you again!


Thanks, you too. :)  Though I can never tell which Estebanus is which, hehe.

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Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Kelly Chambers prefers to be on top.

Haven't seen you in a while, Rifneno! Nice to see you again!


Thanks, you too. :)  Though I can never tell which Estebanus is which, hehe.

Up until friday, I'm the real estebanus. After that, I'm gonna have to work on a report.

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Indoctrination Theory is not real, it was not a dream, it is a attempt to Indoctrinat your mind and to Mind rape you! Grow up live with the ending we got and be happy!

#18664
Ace7

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*sigh* pfff

#18665
Rifneno

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masseffect420 wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is not real, it was not a dream, it is a attempt to Indoctrinat your mind and to Mind rape you! Grow up live with the ending we got and be happy!


Shush.  The adults are talking.

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GethPrimeMKII

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Does anyone have any idea what the tall fat humanoid figure is in those cave paintings?

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estebanus

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Does anyone have any idea what the tall fat humanoid figure is in those cave paintings?

Slender man.

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masseffect420 wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is not real, it was not a dream, it is a attempt to Indoctrinat your mind and to Mind rape you! Grow up live with the ending we got and be happy!

That's a damning accusation. Got anything to back that up?
If not, your statement is nothing but slander, which is highly frowned upon in civilized society. You like considering yourself civilized, right? Well, then I'd like to request you'd act accordingly.

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Ace7

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Does anyone have any idea what the tall fat humanoid figure is in those cave paintings?


Don't think so. There are a number of those figures. Why Leviathan is seemingly ordering the people with spears to attack them is another mystery. 

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Does anyone have any idea what the tall fat humanoid figure is in those cave paintings?


Congratulations!  You found Waldo!

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Leviathan helps IT so much, it's pretty incredible. Very happy with it.

Also, reposting this for the lolz:

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Had to laugh so hard when this achievement popped. Hint much, Bioware?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 04 septembre 2012 - 12:58 .


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got to sit through leviathan at last... and what a disappointing piece of dlc it was. by the end of the first hour, i couldn't bring myself to continue. to me, it has become very pointless to play anything that changes nothing of the ending. regardless, one thing about leviathan that really bothered me was how everyone and their mom was indoctrinated. yet, shepard remains seemingly intact. how do you all view this, in relation to IT?

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Had to laugh so hard when this achievement popped. Hint much, Bioware?



Personally.....i think that's an extremely loose connection you've made there. no offence

Modifié par Ace7, 04 septembre 2012 - 01:09 .


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pseudonymic wrote...

by the end of the first hour, i couldn't bring myself to continue. to me, it has become very pointless to play anything that changes nothing of the ending


but the ending of the DLC is the most important part! How can you judge it if you didn't sit it out to the end? Even disregarding the info revealed in it, I thought it was very enjoyable. But then, I did actually play it which would be more enjoyable than watching someone else play on youtube.

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What i found very interesting in the leviathan dlc was when leviathan took control of shepard's mind. Not only the fact that shepard did not notice that he was being mind raped but also how leviathan described why shepard was seeing ann and all the others from the dlc. " your memories give voice to ur words" or something like that.

Isn't this also happening with starchild? The reapers talk, but shepard sees the child that he's been thinking about since the kid died.