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[estebanus]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Nothing personal Lex but Estebauns thought that your aren't the Counciler tip, like how Anderson was. He hated being a counciler, and makes some good speeches/motivations too.

But I overruled him and declared I wouldnt sit on a council that didnt include lex0r.

So I guess that means you'll denounce your seat?

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Nothing personal Lex but Estebauns thought that your aren't the Counciler tip, like how Anderson was. He hated being a counciler, and makes some good speeches/motivations too.

That's kinda funny, considering that Lex0r actually is a soldier...

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, now masster says I'm a Specter.

Ah well, that's what I'm good at. Shooting things.

*prepares the level 4 Typhoon*

So, is the Typhoon REALLY as bad post nerf as Rifneno says it is?  Or is it just Rifneno being, well, Rifneno?

It's just him. The nerf pretty much made the Typhoon how it should have always been. Byne was right; I was shredding atlases (atli?) on gold faster than they die on bronze. It's anything but bad. It's still really good actually.

[KJSync]

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, now masster says I'm a Specter.

Ah well, that's what I'm good at. Shooting things.

*prepares the level 4 Typhoon*

So, is the Typhoon REALLY as bad post nerf as Rifneno says it is?  Or is it just Rifneno being, well, Rifneno?

The Typhoon is ok,the problem is rifneno 

[estebanus]

Okay, I'll be going to bed. See you all later!

[Auralius Carolus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

estebanus wrote...
 Weapons are not toys. They're killing machines, and should only be handled by soldiers!

There is no better a symbol of self-sufficiency and responsibility than a well trained, diciplined and armed civilian. If the sheep do not have sheep dogs with teeth, then the wolves will come and they will feast well.

Your conventional armies will shatter before the Reapers, but the resistance will remain!

But this "militia" should be regulated by a professional soldier, not by himself. And what you're saying is that in order to feel safe, you need a gun? I'd really not like to live in that place. I think I'll just stay here in the cold north, thank you.

One of these days I hope to understand this fascination Americans have with guns.

I mean, I'm an American, and I dont care about guns.

I mean, sure, its in the Bill of Rights, but you never see anyone screaming about how the government might infringe on their 3rd Amendment rights. Just the 2nd.

Personally though, the 3rd is the one Amendment I've sworn to make a stand on.

I will not quarter a soldier in my house against my will. Not ever.

Basically, the 2nd Amendment is the teeth of the Constitution. If you can't defend what's yours, it is free for the taking. In the case of soldiers taking quarter in your home, against your will, how do you plan to stop this? In a truly tyrannical state, you be shot and your land confiscated.

This was realized during the Revolution when the British attempted to annex militia armories and secure the homes of sympathizers. Many of these militia bodies were either borne of or supported by the British during the French and Indian War, and when they were seen as a threat, a rift was created. Under the pressure of martial law, most militia armories were relocated to individual houses for practicality. During the war, independent militias provided critical harassment while the Congressional Army kept the main body of attention.

As to the 2nd Amendment itself, that is a written form of what the founders saw as a natural and God-given right, not as a privilage granted; it was only put into writing at all, because the Anti-Federalist Party forsaw the potential tyranny of the federation of states.

Human beings, per our very nature, rely upon tools for our advancement. Without tools, particularly weaponry, we are incapable of securing ourselves, pound for pound, against any other beast. The phrase "Well regulated" meant something different in the 18th Century from what it does today. To be "regular" simply meant to hold at heart the interest of the community and be law abiding, which defined the difference between a militiaman and a bandit. The term "milita" is largely unchanged, being a civilian volunteer force ment to contend in support of or in absence of a regular military body, against a given threat on a local level.

*takes a breath*

It's tradition, its a symbol of self-determination, and it's viewed as a natural right and necessity as a human to overcome threats.

[Jere85]

Just dropping by, hows it going fellas?

[lex0r11]

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Oh, now masster says I'm a Specter.

Ah well, that's what I'm good at. Shooting things.

*prepares the level 4 Typhoon*

So, is the Typhoon REALLY as bad post nerf as Rifneno says it is?  Or is it just Rifneno being, well, Rifneno?

I won't comment on that. I will stay out of this debate about multiplayer and people. And I suggest everyone else do the same.

*cough*

[TheConstantOne]

smokingotter1 wrote...

I think we need to seperate the slides from what happens on dream planet.

1. Everything in the space battle is real... even the crucible firing.

2. Dream planet is fake... fake fake fake.... faker than fakey McFake Fake. It is the "haven" in Shepard's mind.

3. Stargazer scene is very real but it happens soooooooo long after the events of ME3. It's meant to show that after signficant periods of time how real events get the details lost in time. Stargazer is telling this fantastical story to this child about Shepard in the same way an adult would explain a religion to the child. The problem is we know the facts of the Mass Effect universe... that's why we're all here ITers, through logic and reason we can see through the BS of the ME3 ending unlike the way a child would when faced with a similar story.

The ME3 ending is a parody of religion and ironically comments on how people accept faith (or indoctrination)  in other religious faiths about mesiahs or "Shepards" who perform miracles that we know are impossible.

It's telling that Bioware took so much inspiration from Dante's "The Divine Comedy" about the "souls journey to God." The ME3 is a parody of the "person's acceptance of god"... a subtle but important distinction.

Sorry if I offended anyone here who is religious.

I'm in sound agreement with the dream planet thing. And otter, though I am very fond of a great many points of your overlay theory, I think the Crucible firing (or rather...the manner in which it fires) is still largely imagined by Shepard.  Again, when it comes to the content of the end scenes we can only really speculate as to how imagined they are, but the fact that the Crucible launch scene ties in seamlessly with the soldier fight makes me think Shepard is trying to picture how it plays out.  HOWEVER, some of the things that are happening in the cinematics (not the slides, I view those as Shepard reflecting on his actions) could be linked into some other occurance on the Citadel.  Like a fight against Reaper forces.  If this were true, then it goes along with your overlay  idea.

Here's something I haven't seen talked about: anyone know why the turian cinematic is only shown in the synthesis ending and the asari are shown in the other two endings?  I thought the asari seemed like the more "synthesis favoring race" seeing as they are typically a voice of unity and can mate with any intelligent life form

[masster blaster]

Jere we are off duty right now, because we have nothing to speculate about, until tommorow.

[paxxton]

Jere85 wrote...

Just dropping by, hows it going fellas?

You missed the fun part.

[Auralius Carolus]

Alright, fine. You guys want something to speculate about? The breath scene: remember that object in the background? The one that looks like Object Rho or the slant in a Reapers back?

I want to know exactly what that is, as it neither replicates the appearance of any known part of the Citadel or the base of the Citadel Beam.

[Jere85]

paxxton wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Just dropping by, hows it going fellas?

You missed the fun part.

Awww
Ah well, lets find out what they will say tomorrow..

[BansheeOwnage]

TheConstantOne wrote...

Here's something I haven't seen talked about: anyone know why the turian cinematic is only shown in the synthesis ending and the asari are shown in the other two endings?  I thought the asari seemed like the more "synthesis favoring race" seeing as they are typically a voice of unity and can mate with any intelligent life form

This is very weird IMO. I'm pretty sure the asari and turian cutscenes are mutually exclusive. Why?

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Nothing personal Lex but Estebauns thought that your aren't the Counciler tip, like how Anderson was. He hated being a counciler, and makes some good speeches/motivations too.

But I overruled him and declared I wouldnt sit on a council that didnt include lex0r.

That settles it. I am still honour-bound by Emporer_Ike to serve this thread and its ThreadMaster™.

I just hope TM won't make me do things that would disgrace my.. ah, whatever. Let's do this.

Modifié par lex0r11, 02 août 2012 - 01:54 .

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Okay, I'll be going to bed. See you all later!

Bye Estebanus.  Actually, I think I'll go too.

[paxxton]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Okay, I'll be going to bed. See you all later!

Bye Estebanus.  Actually, I think I'll go too.

I'm going too.

[Arashi08]

Sooo...

[masster blaster]

Well I will watch the thread tonight. Since everone is going to bed.

[smokingotter1]

It's funny how the beginning of ME3 compliments the end of ME3.

Look familiar?




In the beginning the second time you are hit with a reaper beam... notice the white halo and Shepard's posture



Also in the court room once the reapers show up there is a really audible buzzing sound that starts and stops...  it's really freaking annoying if you turn your speakers up... argh.

[lex0r11]

masster blaster wrote...

Well I will watch the thread tonight. Since everone is going to bed.

You go on and reflect on some of the things that happened in here, someone else will take over.

Modifié par lex0r11, 02 août 2012 - 02:06 .

[Auralius Carolus]

smokingotter1 wrote...

It's funny how the beginning of ME3 compliments the end of ME3.

Look familiar?




In the beginning the second time you are hit with a reaper beam... notice the white halo and Shepard's posture



Also in the court room once the reapers show up there is a really audible buzzing sound that starts and stops...  it's really freaking annoying if you turn your speakers up... argh.

Aside from the buzzing noise, this is the first time the Dream Ambiance appears as Shepard nearly falls unconscious. This runs parallel with the concept of the Reaper beam from Harbinger knocking Shepard out infront of the Citadel beam, but from a progressed state.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Okay, bit of a nostalgia trip, but this guy going on about a 'fan-made theory', reminds me...

When I finished the game, I discussed the ending with my (literalist) friend. (At that time I hadn't heard about IT, nor did I know what a 'literalist' was). He immediately started about IT (I had to ask him what the abbreviation stood for), then threw in my face that it was all just a fan-made theory that I was buying into.

Note, I had literally finished the game like two hours before that conversation, and had no idea what he was talking about.

All I know is that I very much felt like the catalyst was trying to trick me into picking something other than destroy. At the time I played it, I couldn't really put the finger on it, but I felt very distrustful, and I thought it was crazy that the game was giving me the options to do what Saren and TIM respectively wanted (synthesis and control). I was mostly just confused by the implications of that. I was like "But what was the point of the games then? That I was wrong all along?"

I was also very confused by 'control' being the blue option, as if that was somehow paragon. Because saving the Collector Base (and thus the Human Reaper) was the renegade dialogue option, whereas destroy was the paragon dialogue option). So I was talking to him about how I felt the colours were reversed for some odd reason.

So I looked up the breath scene on YouTube (because I had borrowed my friend's game and thus hadn't been able to play multiplayer, so my EMS was not high enough), and when watching it a second time, it suddenly occurred to me that I was looking at stone rubble. And then it clicked. So I asked him, what if it was an indoctrination attempt? And that's when he more or less went ape**** and started about buying into a fan-made theory.

People keep bringing this up, but no matter what you tell them, they can't believe that this was your own interpretation and you didn't hear it on the internet first. So eventually, I (naturally) found this place, only to learn about all the 'circumstantial' evidence. But for me, the whole idea of indoctrination was purely born from my interpretation of the story.

What REALLY blew my mind though, was when I replayed the beginning of the game and saw the scene with the kid holding the miniature spaceship. That's what absolutely convinced me of Bioware's intention. That whole scene was suddenly rich with new meaning and was just screaming 'Things are not what they seem when this kid is around'. Mind blown, seriously.

That just closed the deal to me. It's all the proof I'll ever need. I guess all those years trying to figure out Lynch and Kubrick and what not finally paid off.

[masster blaster]

No Lex I will watch over the many, and I will never forget those who have gone into a deep slumber.

[lex0r11]

@DoomsdayDevice

Thank you for your contribution!

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

[...]

What REALLY blew my mind though, was when I replayed the beginning of the game and saw the scene with the kid holding the miniature spaceship. That's what absolutely convinced me of Bioware's intention. That whole scene was suddenly rich with new meaning and was just screaming 'Things are not what they seem when this kid is around'. Mind blown, seriously.

Yes. Nuff' said.

Modifié par lex0r11, 02 août 2012 - 02:14 .