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[RavenEyry]

I wasn't calling it winning. It's just proof that all humanoid life hasn't vanished forever. There's also a popup that tells us we won.

[hangmans tree]

Did anyone think what the next would-be-cycle would be like? Reaper army harvested human race alongside Shepard. Now, step over Harbinger, we got new heavy weight champion in the ranks...

How would next civilisations handle THAT?

Only proper way of winning I see is human reaper do what humans do best - **** things up and destroy themselves lol

[Rifneno]

hangmans tree wrote...

Did anyone think what the next would-be-cycle would be like? Reaper army harvested human race alongside Shepard. Now, step over Harbinger, we got new heavy weight champion in the ranks...

How would next civilisations handle THAT?

Only proper way of winning I see is human reaper do what humans do best - **** things up and destroy themselves lol

Yaghs will be the dominant species next cycle.  That'd make for some pretty impressive battles.

[MaximizedAction]

RavenEyry wrote...

I wasn't calling it winning. It's just proof that all humanoid life hasn't vanished forever. There's also a popup that tells us we won.

Ah, okay, I see. But then an interesting idea occurs:

If ambiguity in the story of Blade Runner was suggesting the question whether the difference between replicants and humans is even that big, then the story of Mass Effect 3 might allow for the discussion point: What is victory and is it therefore even important?

Boy, that sounds like two things:
a) It's something a writer would approve as it allows him or her to not resolve an seemingly unsolvable conflict
It's something your enemy in the war would love you to think about.

-- about a): In ME3 the writers proved that they are able to resolve the Geth/Quarian conflict and the Genophage approximately properly, so they can do that.
-- about : You know what this is implying...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 05 septembre 2012 - 12:12 .

[paxxton]

hangmans tree wrote...

Did anyone think what the next would-be-cycle would be like? Reaper army harvested human race alongside Shepard. Now, step over Harbinger, we got new heavy weight champion in the ranks...

How would next civilisations handle THAT?

Only proper way of winning I see is human reaper do what humans do best - **** things up and destroy themselves lol

Leviathan says that each Reaper is based on their form. But the human Reaper from ME2 is clearly based on a human form. Either it's a contradiction in story-telling or Leviathan doesn't know that and a human form is superior to a Reaper form which explains your assertion. Or there is another reason I'm not aware of.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 12:19 .

[Norlond]

paxxton wrote...
Leviathan says that each Reaper is based on their form. But the human Reaper from ME2 is clearly based on a human form. Either it's a contradiction in story-telling or Leviathan doesn't know that and a human form is superior to a Reaper form which explains your assertion. Or there is another reason I'm not aware of.

Someone posted that the human reaper larva might just be the core and the cuttlefish shell would be added later on

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I wasn't calling it winning. It's just proof that all humanoid life hasn't vanished forever. There's also a popup that tells us we won.

Ah, okay, I see. But then an interesting idea occurs:

If ambiguity in the story of Blade Runner was suggesting the question whether the difference between replicants and humans is even that big, then the story of Mass Effect 3 might allow for the discussion point: What is victory and is it therefore even important?

Boy, that sounds like two things:
a) It's something a writer would approve as it allows him or her to not resolve an seemingly unsolvable conflict
It's something your enemy in the war would love you to think about.

-- about a): In ME3 the writers proved that they are able to resolve the Geth/Quarian conflict and the Genophage approximately properly, so they can do that.
-- about : You know what this is implying...

About (a). If the writers chose this path, it would be only because the resolution could get really nasty, gory and even disgusting. The Reapers aren't the ones to hold anything back, I'd think.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 12:24 .

[paxxton]

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Leviathan says that each Reaper is based on their form. But the human Reaper from ME2 is clearly based on a human form. Either it's a contradiction in story-telling or Leviathan doesn't know that and a human form is superior to a Reaper form which explains your assertion. Or there is another reason I'm not aware of.

Someone posted that the human reaper larva might just be the core and the cuttlefish shell would be added later on

One reason I wasn't aware of.

[paxxton]

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

So there basically is no real enemy anymore in ME3?

...da hell?

[Norlond]

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

If Indoctrination actually is an artificial synthetic intelligence, it can be an enemy. Personally, I really like that idea, would be amazing to discover that

[Rifneno]

Everytime I see the Bladerunner comparison, it fills me with so much hate I can taste stabbing. Epic bad comparison is epic bad.

The ME2 art book, I think it was, said that every Reaper's "core" looks like the species it was made from. On the outside, they're all cuttlefish. On the inside, they're whatever was butchered to make them. Destroyers are never explained. Probably because they're an asspull to let Shepard fight a Reaper on foot.

[Norlond]

Ah, so it was you who posted that Rif, sorry I didn't remember

[paxxton]

Norlond wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

If Indoctrination actually is an artificial synthetic intelligence, it can be an enemy. Personally, I really like that idea, would be amazing to discover that

I'm skeptical about that cause Indoctrination, if anything, could only be the very process by which that A.I. arouses.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

So there basically is no real enemy anymore in ME3?

...da hell?

There is. The Reapers.

[Rifneno]

Norlond wrote...

Ah, so it was you who posted that Rif, sorry I didn't remember

No, I was just confirming what you said.

[RavenEyry]

Rifneno wrote...
 Destroyers are never explained. Probably because they're an asspull to let Shepard fight a Reaper on foot.

They were also used to explain why they were only making a human reaper if they wanted to 'preserve' all intelligent life. Apparently 'lesser' races get made into little reapers.  Still an asspull, but for two things.

[Norlond]

Rifneno wrote...

Norlond wrote...

Ah, so it was you who posted that Rif, sorry I didn't remember

No, I was just confirming what you said.

*sigh* this thread is quite confusing sometimes, then at least thanks for confirming that, don't have the artbook myself

paxxton wrote...
I'm skeptical about that cause Indoctrination, if anything, could only be the very process by which that A.I. arouses.

Another valid point of view on that theory, equally interesting

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

So there basically is no real enemy anymore in ME3?

...da hell?

There is. The Reapers.

Please, reapers are not an enemy. They cannot be. They're a tool like science and technology.  They simply are.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Indoctrination itself - is true enemy, and the A.I. leviathans created.

Please, Indoctrination is not an enemy. It cannot be. It's a tool like science and technology. They simply are.

So there basically is no real enemy anymore in ME3?

...da hell?

There is. The Reapers.

Please, reapers are not an enemy. They cannot be. They're a tool like science and technology.  They simply are.

I see what you did there.

[Norlond]

RavenEyry wrote...
Please, reapers are not an enemy. They cannot be. They're a tool like science and technology.  They simply are.

You sir deserve a Pi pie

[RavenEyry]

It wasn't even sarcasm. It's true under literal interpretation. Also "We simply are" was a quote from Sovvy.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

It wasn't even sarcasm. It's true under literal interpretation. Also "We simply are" was a quote from Sovvy.

So the Reapers are a tool for the AI and the AI was a tool for Leviathans. By extension, Leviathans are the enemy because they aren't a tool?

The quote from Sovereign seemed appropriate there.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 01:16 .

[paxxton]

Since the thread is moving slower than it should be, I might as well post this link to make it move even slower.
http://www.nokia.com/webcast

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 01:29 .

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

Since the thread is moving slower than it should be, I might as well post this link to make it move even slower.
http://www.nokia.com/webcast

What could nokia say that I could possibly want to hear?