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[demersel]

Perhaps something that happened while shepard was away making peace between geth and quarians...

[GethPrimeMKII]

demersel wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I came to an interesting conclusion when Leviathan said Shepard's victories were not a product of chance. There was nothing stopping the Sovereign class reaper encountered on Planet Desponia from obliterating the ship Shepard was standing on, killing him and his entire squad. Instead it stood back and sent in lesser enemies to do the dirty work.

They're guiding him along. They perceive him as a threat who wants nothing more than the death of all reapers. They know he wont be immediately turned by ideas of controlling reapers or forging an alliance with them, so they guide him along in his quest to destroy the reapers. They throw just enough at Shepard to test his mettle but nothing he cant overcome. Shepard is slowly succumbing to indoctrination. The reapers are biding their time and waiting for the perfect opportunity to turn Shepard once and for all.

I hope that made sense.

It does make sense. It was exactly what i thought - they encorouge shepard to find leviathan and if he takes to long - they start to motivate him.
Reapers know the location of the leviathan before shepard. Yet they arrive after him. When a rreaper shows up - he does nothing - just spew some troops as if saying - what's taking so long? 
And do you know, that when you beat the wave - but take to much time wondering the ship istead of speking to cortess, or driving your mech into water - they just say another wave "What's taking so long???" style. 

                In addition, it explains odd events in the story such as why the reapers would send a lone destroyer to defend the shroud, why the destroyer in Vancouver doesn't simply shoot down the Normandy when it has a clear shot, or why the reapers stomping around Vancouver don't simply blast Shepard as soon as he's spotted.
           

                Its clear that they percieve Shepard as a threat, but a threat that they can turn to their side. Theyre allowing Shepard to win because his victories unite the last line of resistance for the entire galaxy, and bring them all to one place to be destroyed by turning their uniter  and champion against them.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 05 septembre 2012 - 10:08 .

[demersel]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...
                Its clear that they percieve Shepard as a threat, but a threat that they can turn to their side. Theyre allowing Shepard to win because his victories unite the last line of resistance for the entire galaxy, and bring them all to one place to be destroyed by turning their uniter  and champion against them.

I think they are already using shepard right from the start of me3 -  building the crucible, which is a trap, gathering all the galactic fleets and resources and bringing it all into a single system , from fhere there is no-escape from...

Nobody ever thought what is that nebula that the citadel was initially at? Perhaps it was a planet once, vaporised by the cruicibles charge off. 

And reapers come and switch off all the relays.... but not this cycle. Yet crucible does exactly this. In all three endings. 

Nobody ever said that they turned off the mass relays right away. And how exaclty did they do it. 

My guess - they do exaclty what they did before - they come in. make a huge mess of the galaxy. Wait until everyone who can fight - get into the war, plant the crucible plans in advance - wait for them to build it and assemble the fleet of the galaxe to come and take back the citadel - whrn they come let them fire the crucible - which vaporises everything in the system, and destroys all the mass relays. slowly harvest the galaxy.  If they can't manage to build the crucible - - just killl them the long way one by one. 

Modifié par demersel, 05 septembre 2012 - 10:20 .

[FellishBeast]

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

[CoolioThane]

Starting to care less and less about ME each passing day. Feel by the time an IT DLC comes out I just won't give two ****s anymore, especially since uni is back soon and social life becomes the focus ahead of computer games. :shrug:

[demersel]

Glyph is the real shodow broker. And works for the reapers. He planted the crucible plans. He is the traitor on the normandy (through liara).
For all we know - he is the A.I. the leviathans created )))

He is white - the only other time this colour is used in ME universe for something holograohic or virtual - is GLYPH and the Catalyst.
CLYPH has the capacity to assume any form. - he can be set to look like anything.
The dreams start as soon as liara get's on board. (Presumably with GLYPH)
Annd the fact that he says everything as if he's mockking you. (Listen to the first things he say - and then overall)

[estebanus]

Flog61 wrote...

I'm playing Katawa Shoujo; love Lilly the most so far

Lilly is cool, yeah. I've only managed to complete her first act, though.

[CoolioThane]

estebanus wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

I'm playing Katawa Shoujo; love Lilly the most so far

Lilly is cool, yeah. I've only managed to complete her first act, though.

They're all lovely. I don't know if it's just me, but people who overcome disability are very attractive 

[estebanus]

CoolioThane wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

I'm playing Katawa Shoujo; love Lilly the most so far

Lilly is cool, yeah. I've only managed to complete her first act, though.

They're all lovely. I don't know if it's just me, but people who overcome disability are very attractive 

Up until now, my favourite one is Hanako.However, I will try getting Rin's at some point. Somehow, I ended up with Lilly instead of her.

[estebanus]

Well, I was just checking in. Going to bed now. Good night!

[paxxton]

Whoa!

EDIT: The thread seems alive again.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:42 .

[Nightingale]

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

[FellishBeast]

demersel wrote...

Glyph is the real shodow broker. And works for the reapers. He planted the crucible plans. He is the traitor on the normandy (through liara).
For all we know - he is the A.I. the leviathans created )))

He is white - the only other time this colour is used in ME universe for something holograohic or virtual - is GLYPH and the Catalyst.
CLYPH has the capacity to assume any form. - he can be set to look like anything.
The dreams start as soon as liara get's on board. (Presumably with GLYPH)
Annd the fact that he says everything as if he's mockking you. (Listen to the first things he say - and then overall)

Interesting idea. Excuse me if this seems ignorant, but don't the escort drones look similar to Glyph?

[FellishBeast]

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

Yeah. I'll have to look through them since no one seems to know off-hand. There have been a few theories that the single-player ME3 events are not taking place in reality, and the MP is real. I've also heard that MP might just be a training simulator (like Pinnacle Station) and promoting the character is sending them out into the field. I think those make more sense than both SP and MP being canon, since they seem to contradict one another at times.

[paxxton]

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

The entire squad, I think. But not sure.

London DLC trailer mentioned the fleets.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:41 .

[Nightingale]

FellishBeast wrote...

demersel wrote...

Glyph is the real shodow broker. And works for the reapers. He planted the crucible plans. He is the traitor on the normandy (through liara).
For all we know - he is the A.I. the leviathans created )))

He is white - the only other time this colour is used in ME universe for something holograohic or virtual - is GLYPH and the Catalyst.
CLYPH has the capacity to assume any form. - he can be set to look like anything.
The dreams start as soon as liara get's on board. (Presumably with GLYPH)
Annd the fact that he says everything as if he's mockking you. (Listen to the first things he say - and then overall)

Interesting idea. Excuse me if this seems ignorant, but don't the escort drones look similar to Glyph?

They do, though I think that's more because that was added to MP after the fact and it was easier to reuse Glyph's model than to start from scratch. I believe it's the same voice, as well.

As for the theory itself, I've heard it argued a few times now. It may be valid, though the dreams start when Shepard boards the Normandy. There's no way to confirm or deny that it's because Liara is there, since they head straight from Earth to Mars; Shepard doesn't sleep until after recruiting her.

[Nightingale]

FellishBeast wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

Yeah. I'll have to look through them since no one seems to know off-hand. There have been a few theories that the single-player ME3 events are not taking place in reality, and the MP is real. I've also heard that MP might just be a training simulator (like Pinnacle Station) and promoting the character is sending them out into the field. I think those make more sense than both SP and MP being canon, since they seem to contradict one another at times.

I agree. The theory that MP is still going on after Shepard activates the Catalyst is interesting, though. It contradicts as many ideas for IT as it supports, but it'd make sense when they're so determined to give MP a story of sorts.

Edit: That sucks, but thanks, paxxton.

Edit again: Just checked the thread, Priestly confirmed the entire squad needs to do it without consumables. Looks like I'll be soloing...

Modifié par DrTsoni, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:58 .

[D.Sharrah]

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

Yeah. I'll have to look through them since no one seems to know off-hand. There have been a few theories that the single-player ME3 events are not taking place in reality, and the MP is real. I've also heard that MP might just be a training simulator (like Pinnacle Station) and promoting the character is sending them out into the field. I think those make more sense than both SP and MP being canon, since they seem to contradict one another at times.

I agree. The theory that MP is still going on after Shepard activates the Catalyst is interesting, though. It contradicts as many ideas for IT as it supports, but it'd make sense when they're so determined to give MP a story of sorts.

Edit: That sucks, but thanks, paxxton.

Edit again: Just checked the thread, Priestly confirmed the entire squad needs to do it without consumables. Looks like I'll be soloing...

Yeah looking at the thread it seems that most seem that this OP is destined to fail...

[Big_Boss9]

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

No, nothing has ever really been mentioned in the MP op briefings or after action reports that directly links it to SP. This allows them freedom to peg their own timeline. It could all be taking place in the middle of the game or right before the assault on Cronos. I imagine a day will come when the servers are running dry and they'll wrap it up with a final op detailing the assault on Earth, but until then, the connection between the two (in terms of timing) is tenuous at best.

[Nightingale]

D.Sharrah wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

Yeah. I'll have to look through them since no one seems to know off-hand. There have been a few theories that the single-player ME3 events are not taking place in reality, and the MP is real. I've also heard that MP might just be a training simulator (like Pinnacle Station) and promoting the character is sending them out into the field. I think those make more sense than both SP and MP being canon, since they seem to contradict one another at times.

I agree. The theory that MP is still going on after Shepard activates the Catalyst is interesting, though. It contradicts as many ideas for IT as it supports, but it'd make sense when they're so determined to give MP a story of sorts.

Edit: That sucks, but thanks, paxxton.

Edit again: Just checked the thread, Priestly confirmed the entire squad needs to do it without consumables. Looks like I'll be soloing...

Yeah looking at the thread it seems that most seem that this OP is destined to fail...

Looks like a lot of people just aren't even going to try. And those that do are going to be soloing, too. We're due for a failure of the community op, anyway. It seems to be planned that we fail certain ones (even if we didn't really fail) and succeed others (even if we failed) and we haven't failed one recently, that I can think of. They're clearly trying to establish a link between MP and SP; this supports that, though I'm not really sure what it has to do with the overall story and how it could relate to IT...
Is it obvious I'm trying too hard to stay on-topic?

[Nightingale]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Does anyone know if Shepard or anything from the SP campaign is mentioned in the MP operations?

You mean the posts announcing them, right? If so, I'd be curious, too, though as far as I know there hasn't been anything SP-related.
Speaking of MP (sorry it's off-topic), when it says the squad goal is to not use any supplies waves 1-10, does that mean just you or the entire squad?

No, nothing has ever really been mentioned in the MP op briefings or after action reports that directly links it to SP. This allows them freedom to peg their own timeline. It could all be taking place in the middle of the game or right before the assault on Cronos. I imagine a day will come when the servers are running dry and they'll wrap it up with a final op detailing the assault on Earth, but until then, the connection between the two (in terms of timing) is tenuous at best.

That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming. You're probably right, though if IT were true, it could've been a nice lead-in to the next game.

[Arian Dynas]

*cough*

check the link in my sig that says bioware business plan.

[smokingotter1]

Hey Guys I'm back and done with my moving. Just played Leviathan. Something I did not see covered is relation to the DLC/MP timeline in regards to the ME3 single player storyline.

According to the conspiracy website linked with the Levianthan DLC release: http://conspiracyacc...ue.blogspot.ca/




Look at the banner. Udina's invovlement with Cerberus is still just a conspiracy. After Cerberus tried to take over the citadel everyone knew about Udina,  so in the single player storyline we are still
pre-Cerberus coup.
We still have a ways to go people.

[paxxton]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Hey Guys I'm back and done with my moving. Just played Leviathan. Something I did not see covered is relation to the DLC/MP timeline in regards to the ME3 single player storyline.

According to the conspiracy website linked with the Levianthan DLC release: http://conspiracyacc...ue.blogspot.ca/




Look at the banner. Udina's invovlement with Cerberus is still just a conspiracy. After Cerberus tried to take over the citadel everyone knew about Udina,  so in the single player storyline we are still
pre-Cerberus coup.
We still have a ways to go people.

That also means Leviathan should be played prior to the coup. Also, Leviathan seems to be DLC for Act 1. There might be 2 more - for Act 2 and Act 3.