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[demersel]

paxxton wrote...
I'm not sure but afaik Romulans joined up with the Dominion. But I don't know.

I should really pick up the whole series. For me the best Star Trek was TNG. Then Deep Space Nine.

I just recently started to watch Star Trek The Original Series... And man IT IS AWESOME. I'm in the middle of sesson two, but it is already better than any other startrek (TNG, DS9, Voyager, etc) and it is even better then Star Wars. 

The Original Series was truly a work of ART.

Modifié par demersel, 07 septembre 2012 - 10:23 .

[demersel]

SubAstris wrote...

Just because TIM had Vendetta doesn't necessarily mean he corrupted it and made it say things it didn't intend.

I guess 5 is your interpretation. It never said it wasn't an AI

As it never said it was. ))))

[DoomsdayDevice]

Replaying ME3, just noticed this one.

Allers:

"Breaking news: A nightmare on Earth.
Human leaders using military force on their own people.
They say it's to prevent loose cannons from provoking the Reapers.
But are they indoctrinated?"

[SubAstris]

demersel wrote...

ME4 or whatever the next game in the universe will be, may not feature Shepard as main character. (it may not feature him at all). But if there are reapers there - bam! IT is proven 100%

What about if ME4 is set before the events of ME3? Or during the Reaper war?

[demersel]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Replaying ME3, just noticed this one.

Allers:

"Breaking news: A nightmare on Earth.
Human leaders using military force on their own people.
They say it's to prevent loose cannons from provoking the Reapers.
But are they indoctrinated?"

Exactly... The whole game i was thinking - how can we even trust Anderson?

The sane thing to do would be treat everyone who stayed at Earth as MIA. No contact, no intel swap, treat earth as enemy territory until it is taken back. (that's what tactical retreat and tactical sacrifice mean, after all).

I was frustrated, that we keep talking as if on skype with earth. Earth is LOST until it is taken back. Keeping contact with earth is tactical suicide. And you can do nothing about it. You're just forced to accept it and take it on faith.  

[demersel]

SubAstris wrote...

demersel wrote...

ME4 or whatever the next game in the universe will be, may not feature Shepard as main character. (it may not feature him at all). But if there are reapers there - bam! IT is proven 100%

What about if ME4 is set before the events of ME3? Or during the Reaper war?

what would be the point? Who would buy it? we already know how the war ended. What's the point of doing anything besides that? 

[demersel]

SubAstris wrote...

What about if ME4 is set before the events of ME3? Or during the Reaper war?

It would be like making the game out of Vega's mission against the collectors. 

[Dwailing]

Norlond wrote...

Want some quotes?

"The goal was to tell a more personal story about Shepard and how the war has taken a toll on his psyche"

Including: Reaper exposure

"[...] resolution to the philosophical battle between TIM [...] and Shepard, who wants [the Reapers] outright destroyed"

Ending: Random change of mind!

"And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's movements and fall under full Reaper control (This sequence was ultimately dropped because the gameplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement alongside dialogue choices)"

Indoctrination was intended, it was just not implemented because of gameplay problems (like salarian husks), doesn't mean they implemented with IT

I'm sure these quotes were already discussed but I thought I could bring them up again nonetheless

*edit* and a quote from Shep during the conversation with James about N7: "The right choice is not always the easy one"

Huh, that second one basically means that Word of God says that Shepard's goal is to Destroy () the Reapers.  Not Control them, not Synthesize the galaxy, Destroy the Reapers.  With the endings in mind, it's like BioWare WANTED us to realize that anything other than Destroy would be completely out of character.  I know Shepard doesn't have a lot of canon personality elements, but he has some elements that are canon, and his wish to Destroy the Reapers, at least according to everything that BioWare said on the matter (As much or a little as that may be.), is one of those elements.

[Dwailing]

demersel wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

demersel wrote...

ME4 or whatever the next game in the universe will be, may not feature Shepard as main character. (it may not feature him at all). But if there are reapers there - bam! IT is proven 100%

What about if ME4 is set before the events of ME3? Or during the Reaper war?

what would be the point? Who would buy it? we already know how the war ended. What's the point of doing anything besides that? 

Fair point.  People won't buy a sequel that's set during the Reaper War because of ME3.  And odds are people won't buy a prequel given that they already know that they can't change anything.

[DoomsdayDevice]

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Replaying ME3, just noticed this one.

Allers:

"Breaking news: A nightmare on Earth.
Human leaders using military force on their own people.
They say it's to prevent loose cannons from provoking the Reapers.
But are they indoctrinated?"

Exactly... The whole game i was thinking - how can we even trust Anderson?

The
sane thing to do would be treat everyone who stayed at Earth as MIA. No
contact, no intel swap, treat earth as enemy territory until it is
taken back. (that's what tactical retreat and tactical sacrifice mean,
after all).

I was frustrated, that we keep talking as if on skype
with earth. Earth is LOST until it is taken back. Keeping contact with
earth is tactical suicide. And you can do nothing about it. You're just
forced to accept it and take it on faith.  

Yeah, the hints are definitely there.

Anderson: "I was born in London, you know."

Shepard: "...really?"

Anderson: "Too bad it took the Reapers to bring the galaxy together."

Squadmate: "It was Shepard who brought them together."

Anderson: "That's exactly what I meant."

Although it doesn't seem to jive with the whole concept of Anderson being the one who would choose destroy, etc. This is one of the few things I can't wrap my mind around.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 07 septembre 2012 - 10:43 .

[SubAstris]

demersel wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

demersel wrote...

ME4 or whatever the next game in the universe will be, may not feature Shepard as main character. (it may not feature him at all). But if there are reapers there - bam! IT is proven 100%

What about if ME4 is set before the events of ME3? Or during the Reaper war?

what would be the point? Who would buy it? we already know how the war ended. What's the point of doing anything besides that? 

You don't want to know more about what happened during the war? Or way before it?

[demersel]

Guys! I can prove that IT is true using logic!!!!

[demersel]

SubAstris wrote...

You don't want to know more about what happened during the war? Or way before it?

No. I already know the end. Why would i bother?

[spotlessvoid]

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

[demersel]

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Don't worry. You won't have to. It will come. They said there are going to be more games in ME universe. That is fact. 

[Norlond]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Don't worry. You won't have to. It will come. They said there are going to be more games in ME universe. That is fact. 

But Casey wants them to be set during the reaper war, no se- or prequels

[demersel]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Replaying ME3, just noticed this one.

Allers:

"Breaking news: A nightmare on Earth.
Human leaders using military force on their own people.
They say it's to prevent loose cannons from provoking the Reapers.
But are they indoctrinated?"

Exactly... The whole game i was thinking - how can we even trust Anderson?

The
sane thing to do would be treat everyone who stayed at Earth as MIA. No
contact, no intel swap, treat earth as enemy territory until it is
taken back. (that's what tactical retreat and tactical sacrifice mean,
after all).

I was frustrated, that we keep talking as if on skype
with earth. Earth is LOST until it is taken back. Keeping contact with
earth is tactical suicide. And you can do nothing about it. You're just
forced to accept it and take it on faith.  

Yeah, the hints are definitely there.

Anderson: "I was born in London, you know."

Shepard: "...really?"

Anderson: "Too bad it took the Reapers to bring the galaxy together."

Squadmate: "It was Shepard who brought them together."

Anderson: "That's exactly what I meant."

Although it doesn't seem to jive with the whole concept of Anderson being the one who would choose destroy, etc. This is one of the few things I can't wrap my mind around.

yet.

[spotlessvoid]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Don't worry. You won't have to. It will come. They said there are going to be more games in ME universe. That is fact. 

Well, they aren't getting another dollar out of me until then

[demersel]

Norlond wrote...

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Don't worry. You won't have to. It will come. They said there are going to be more games in ME universe. That is fact. 

But Casey wants them to be set during the reaper war, no se- or prequels

IT states that the reaper war is far from over. Casey wants future ME games to be set during the reaper war. What do we get if we combine those two facts? 

Modifié par demersel, 07 septembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[demersel]

spotlessvoid wrote...


Well, they aren't getting another dollar out of me until then

Exactly. )) 

[spotlessvoid]

demersel wrote...

Guys! I can prove that IT is true using logic!!!!

I swear to god demersel, if you post that crazy set of equations again....

[Dwailing]

spotlessvoid wrote...

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's what Arian said the other day Dwailing. I'll respond the same way. I didn't hundreds of dollars and hours to head canon the most important part of the game.

It would be like ending Blade Runner with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Don't worry. You won't have to. It will come. They said there are going to be more games in ME universe. That is fact. 

Well, they aren't getting another dollar out of me until then

I'll be the sacrificial lamb.  I plan on buying every piece of DLC for ME3 on the off chance that it might have useful information.  Plus, the writing in Leviathan is on par with the rest of ME3 (Not counting the endings.), so I have a good feeling about the rest of the DLC.

[spotlessvoid]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...


Well, they aren't getting another dollar out of me until then

Exactly. )) 

You arent buying Omega DLC?

[demersel]

I remember way before ME2 was released but after they realeased the teaser, there was a HUGE debate - who was gonna be the new main character. And the game was already announced by then. Only at the E3 six moths before launch it was REVEALED that you will still play as commander Shepard. Between those two events there was a LOT of time and A LOT of forum speculatons. OH, those flame wars....people who were saying that shepard will remain the main character were froned upon and called stupid - why would bioware announce the game with the teaser that says Shepard is KIA then? )))))

On ME3 they involved the PR team from C&C4. That is all the proof I need to know. )

[demersel]

spotlessvoid wrote...

You arent buying Omega DLC?

I most certainly am.  And so will you.