SubAstris wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
Trying to think of any other times when Shepard is on his knees...
Cool, nice that this point is being made. This is what I posted at the time of Levvi:
legaldinho wrote...
Leviathan has brought me back to conventional dream theory.
Leviathan's final scene draws parallels with the catalyst scene. Shepard on his knees, unconscious. Is taken somewhere else, since there is no suit, the entity taking him there takes the form of someone from his memory.
Someone it has controlled before.
We see a rare glimpse of "real" shepard as this happens- passed out, nose bleed.
When Shepard is first "kicked out of his own head", he fails to realise what is happening. He sees Ann, he addresses her as "Ann? What's happening?". That's despite the fact that she has just said to him, in Levvy's voice "Your mind belongs to me. Breathe"
This is the start of mind control. Shepard is on all fours, prostrate in front of the one who
would enslave his mind. He shakes his head, his antagonist walks towards him ( sideways camera angle) then shep gets up. Same exact scene, though mirrored, from the scene with reaperbieber. On all fours, shakes head, gets up.
Note the "dream scene" white flakes in the background. Those don't look like bubbles, eh.
So for me, Leviathan confirms that the "decision chamber" scene happens inside Shepard's head. Or perhaps more aptly, outside his head... The choices are not real. So much is constructed from memory: the mako tyres,
the synthesis beam. The planet above his head (from the scenes of his death in ME2). Levvy is explicit about using Shepard's own memory.
Where the "unreality" begins, is debatable. For me it is the conduit run. I doubt it can be before that.
So hallucination theory was right after all. Except the catalyst is real. There really is an intelligence that controls the reapers. And it really is trying to come up with a solution. It is indoctrinating you into choosing synthesis, the only alternative it has seen to the reapers. What it does with you after you choose it (ie enter the conduit beam to
go up to the citadel), heaven knows. But it has a willing, indoctrinated shepard to use, not as a tool of the reapers, but as its tool to end the cycle.
Control is a false choice. Control is a weak minded, unwilling shepard who is but another TIM. Destroy is a useless choice to the catalyst. Of course it will not let you destroy them. The indoctrination attempt has failed.
I would say the same for refuse but for the breath scene not appearing. Handbags by Bioware, I think. Refuse is as defiant as destroy. I prefer destroy because my shep can't know it's an indoctrination attempt. He's confused. He's sure about two things: i) there's no way you're going to talk me into forcing some kind of genetic or consciousness alteration on all sentient beings in the galaxy, it's grotesque and ii) there's no way you're talking me into doing what I just talked TIM out of doing. In case destroy actually works as advertised, he chooses destroy. Sorry geths and EDI. Sorry also Mordin, Kaidan, Legion, Thane, and countless others, who died to get him there.
But I've thought about it long and hard, and I'm not so sure any more. I'm sure the ending is "indoctrination". I can't decide if the reaperbieber scene is real or not. I have a terrible feeling it is- and Bioware will continue down that road. At the time I posted the above, though, I was convinved it wasn't- the "kicked out of your own head" argument.
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