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[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

Yes it is. BansheeOwnage picked up on that too.

Sweet, I'm going to see them (again) in a month!

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Speaking of synthesis, I find it interesting that synthesis and control both appeal to Shepard's ego.

"You're so special that only you can control us!"
"You're so special that you're the best example of life in the galaxy! Jump into this beam and spead your awesomeness!"

That is interesting

Also, everyone watch my video!

That's how the villains always get ya. Yes, the music should've been included but for some reason it isn't.

It's so much more epic with the music too

401 Kill, is your name a Rise Against reference?

That's why I felt the Leviathan DLC was missing something!!! With that I would of been a bit more like "That was cool." Without it was just...meh.

Exactly!

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 10 septembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[paxxton]

Nice video, BleedingUranium. Makes me think how it's possible that Leviathans decide to stay hidden for millions of years and then after a chit-chat with Shepard they go to war. Just like that, let's make the Reapers our slaves.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 septembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[Jadebaby]

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

[paxxton]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

Just wow.  Isn't that what we've been discussing over and over for the last half a year?

Modifié par paxxton, 10 septembre 2012 - 03:32 .

[401 Kill]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

I suppose that's plausible, but I just can't believe that he actually made it because Hacket said "someone made it" rather than "Shepard made it". What reason would he have for saying that?

[byne]

401 Kill wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

I suppose that's plausible, but I just can't believe that he actually made it because Hacket said "someone made it" rather than "Shepard made it". What reason would he have for saying that?

Actually Hackett says 's/he made it'

Though why we're suddenly assuming that Shep made it because Hackett says so I dont understand.

That happens after the point we believe the hallucination starts, so theres not much reason to believe it actually happened.

[401 Kill]

byne wrote...

Actually Hackett says 's/he made it'.

Ah, my mistake, I ment to reference the part that Hacket says"We've got reports that someone made it to the Citidel".

[Big_Boss9]

byne wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

I suppose that's plausible, but I just can't believe that he actually made it because Hacket said "someone made it" rather than "Shepard made it". What reason would he have for saying that?

Actually Hackett says 's/he made it'

Though why we're suddenly assuming that Shep made it because Hackett says so I dont understand.

That happens after the point we believe the hallucination starts, so theres not much reason to believe it actually happened.

Exactly this.

OT: I'm antsy for some more MP DLC. Also, I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but given that Mike Gamble will be at NYCC in October, I think we can reasonably expect the next SP DLC announcement there.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So been thinking about something;

We kinda know from the EC that Shep makes it to the Citadel with Hackett's talking etc..

But what if the TIM and Anderson scene is Shep just hallucinating? Seeing and hearing Anderson, maybe also TIM, but they're not actually there? More Anderson than TIM.

plausible, but conflicts with the very-London like rubble in the Shepard Alive/Breath Scene. Then again, the reaper cables in that scene conflict with the London rubble (still haven't found a single reaper cable in London).

[Angelo2027]

I dont know if this has been mentioned because I haven't read all of the posts but have any of you seen the position of earth when shepard is talking to the catalyst and then when joker is flying around the citadel? I don't know if I am blind xD but I think the position of earth in those scenes is a bit diferent from each other and weird.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

magnetite wrote...

The Citadel blew up over Earth's orbit. Also I didn't see any concrete on the Citadel. The Reapers built the Citadel. It was made of futuristic building materials. If they claim to be so advanced compared to us, I don't think they'd use a primitive material like concrete in it's construction. Just saying.

No concrete, similar material but not in the same pattern as London rubble or Breath Scene rubble. Plenty of Reaper Cable on the Citadel during "The Return" mission though.

[Dwailing]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

magnetite wrote...

The Citadel blew up over Earth's orbit. Also I didn't see any concrete on the Citadel. The Reapers built the Citadel. It was made of futuristic building materials. If they claim to be so advanced compared to us, I don't think they'd use a primitive material like concrete in it's construction. Just saying.

No concrete, similar material but not in the same pattern as London rubble or Breath Scene rubble. Plenty of Reaper Cable on the Citadel during "The Return" mission though.

At one point Mike Gamble joked about a piece of rebar falling on Shepard after the Breath Scene.  Now, I know it was a joke, and as such might not be the best source, but he must be aware of the Breath Scene location debate, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was trying to give us a hint.  Unless there's rebar on the Citadel as well as concrete. <_<

[gunslinger_ruiz]

magnetite wrote...

I still don't think that Shepard would have magically survived the fall back to Earth. Unless he was on Earth the whole time.

Neither do I, it would take a lot of things happening in the background that we never see even hinted at for Shepard to end up back on Earth after the Destroy choice. And by a lot I mean at least 10-15 things.

Dwailing wrote...


At one point Mike Gamble joked about
a piece of rebar falling on Shepard after the Breath Scene.  Now, I
know it was a joke, and as such might not be the best source, but he
must be aware of the Breath Scene location debate, so it wouldn't
surprise me if he was trying to give us a hint.  Unless there's rebar on
the Citadel as well as concrete. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

You mean to say the cable is Rebar and not Reaper Cable? Must direct you to my signature, Rebar/Reaper Cable comparison, can see a serious difference when viewing the full sized images.

I do remember someone mentioning from the original script that Shepard would still get hit by Harbinger and land in a pile of rubble, a piece of rebar jutting from his/her leg(?). After recovering he/she would go on to the beam with the squad covering him/her depending on factors. . . . Anyone have a source on that? I think I heard about that one all the way back in Mark I.

[BlazingZephyr]

Damn. Still going strong.

I admire your conviction ITers. I wish I could still believe... =/

[TheConstantOne]

byne wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

byne wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

@ConstantOne: I think that is a very fair point...and in most cases I think it would provide another reason to avoid control...

But as I said in my post above, there is at least one playthrough where I see control as the right choice for my Shepard - and in that case, my Shepard would absolutely have no problem controlling the Geth. I think it all comes down to how you want to "play" Shepard. For me, the majority of the time I would completely agree.

This is quite true.  I was speaking in terms of my own morals and not a roleplayed Shepard's morals.

Most of the time I go with a Paragon Shepard as that fits my moral view but...I do have an extreme Renegade that...killed Mordin and Wrex.  Wow, that was literally painful just to type

Hopefully your extreme renegade didnt pick synthesis.

Mine did, and it cured the genophage anyways, meaning Mordin and Wrex's deaths were absolutely meaningless.

Wouldn't it be reasonable for forced genetic perfection to be able to undo forced sterilization?

Sure, Space Magic can do whatever the hell it wants.

Doesnt stop it from being monumentally stupid.

Actually, my extreme renegade went with Control.  That renegade Shepgod speech was...scary, to say the least 

[TheConstantOne]

byne wrote...

Speaking of synthesis, I find it interesting that synthesis and control both appeal to Shepard's ego.

"You're so special that only you can control us!"
"You're so special that you're the best example of life in the galaxy! Jump into this beam and spead your awesomeness!"

Yes, this is another reason that I think something is up.  The Reapers always seem to indoctrinate with appeals towards both one's ideals and ego.  

Saren: "More lives will be spared than have ever existed."   " *I* am a vision of the future..."

TIM: "The Crucible will allow me to control them... I know it will work!" "That's not true [I haven't betrayed humanity]!"

Interestingly, both TIM and Saren both tried to ally with Shepard and then Shepard had to be destroyed because s/he would undo everything they'd accomplished.  This ties into synthesis as that is the ending that is most made out to be the ending in which Shepard is not undoing what what s/he accomplished throughout the game/series (other than the objective of the story, anyway...)

It's something to consider

[spotlessvoid]

I love how Harbinger decides to defend the beam solo..And how starchild is so willing to shift the decision to someone else. The last cycle built the crucible but wasn't ready to use it, but this one is because they got one guy past one Reaper? Harbinger screws up by playing Rambo and not killing Shepard dead enough. That's the moment of truth. Harbinger aims better, our does a double tap (it's rule number 2!) and this cycle is no longer ready. Brilliant.

Edit: Starchild could have a couple Reapers fly over and rip the decision chamber wide open, but instead decides he's had enough. Do you understand the mental toll countless genocides take on someone? Starchild was tired, emotionally drained. He was ready to give up. He just needed that one person who could duck a laser to show up. For a while, he thought that person would be Barry Sanders, but he retired early. Then came Shepard. At first, he wasn't sure. Shepard didn't even have a roll button. But Shepard had a great offseason and came back with a new move, and Starchild knew that he would
become the one. I think

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:57 .

[byne]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I love how Harbinger decides to defend the beam solo..And how starchild is so willing to shift the decision to someone else. The last cycle built the crucible but wasn't ready to use it, but this one is because they got one guy past one Reaper? Harbinger screws up by playing Rambo and not killing Shepard dead enough. That's the moment of truth. Harbinger aims better, our does a double tap (it's rule number 2!) and this cycle is no longer ready. Brilliant

Godchild acts like this cycle is ready because Shepard managed to reach that room.

Never once does Shepard point out that she is only in that room because godchild brought her there.

She wouldnt have gotten there on her own.

Modifié par byne, 10 septembre 2012 - 05:00 .

[spotlessvoid]

byne wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I love how Harbinger decides to defend the beam solo..And how starchild is so willing to shift the decision to someone else. The last cycle built the crucible but wasn't ready to use it, but this one is because they got one guy past one Reaper? Harbinger screws up by playing Rambo and not killing Shepard dead enough. That's the moment of truth. Harbinger aims better, our does a double tap (it's rule number 2!) and this cycle is no longer ready. Brilliant

Godchild acts like this cycle is ready because Shepard managed to rach that room.

Never once does Shepard point out that she is only in that room because godchild brought her there.

She wouldnt have gotten there on her own.

Well, that's because bad writingI don't know. Also, why didn't they just shut the beam off? Take an hour break or something? 

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 10 septembre 2012 - 05:09 .

[spotlessvoid]

[Harbinger sitting at table, surrounded by his crew]
Harbinger, still chewing his cheeseburger, takes a sip of his chocolate malt: "Do you think they're still standing around, trying to figure out how to turn it on? Hahahaha. We should have gotten a booth"

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 10 septembre 2012 - 05:16 .

[RavenEyry]

byne wrote...

Actually Hackett says 's/he made it'

Though why we're suddenly assuming that Shep made it because Hackett says so I dont understand.

That happens after the point we believe the hallucination starts, so theres not much reason to believe it actually happened.

Even pre-ec Hackett just assumes the person that opened the citadel is Shepard without having any way to know.