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[Norlond]

demersel wrote... But i can prove it true right now. 

I'm listening

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Modifié par Norlond, 11 septembre 2012 - 05:25 .

[demersel]

I'll be back after a short commercial!

[estebanus]

demersel wrote...

estebanus wrote...
]IT isn't true until BIoWare says so.

And they will do just so, but it will be at least few months more. But i can prove it true right now. 

Aha. Are you 100% sure of that?

[Restrider]

demersel wrote...

I'll be back after a short commercial!

Dude....

[dorktainian]

[Norlond]

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Modifié par Norlond, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:06 .

[Restrider]

dorktainian wrote...

*scratches head*
Well, I don't mind the main quests in ME 2 and ME 3 to be all a dream (except Genophage and Rannoch arc), but all the sidequests, character development gone... meh<_<

[Ace7]

demersel wrote...

I'll be back after a short commercial!

ohhh hoo hooo this is it! Demersel is finally going to unveil himself as none other than........ Casey Hudson.........dundun dun. please mr. hudson let IT be true

[Ace7]

sh*te, double post

Modifié par Ace7, 11 septembre 2012 - 05:59 .

[demersel]

Ace7 wrote...

ohhh hoo hooo this is it! Demersel is finally going to unveil himself as none other than........ Casey Hudson.........dundun dun. please mr. hudson let IT be true

I have no comment on this. 

[Restrider]

Ace7 wrote...

ohhh hoo hooo this is it! Demersel is finally going to unveil himself as none other than........ Casey Hudson.........dundun dun. please mr. hudson let IT be true

That would be... a surprise, lol. Epic twist though^^.

[Jawsomebob]

all the bad parts of Mass effect were all dreams I hope

[Ace7]

your silence speaks louder than words Mr. Hudson, I shall say no more.

so, anyway, about this proving IT to be true business as mentioned earlier to estebanus??

[demersel]

I'm back everyone. So, whall we begin?
But bear in my mind that listening to my logical conclusions and getting a definitive answer to the mystery will deprave from the enjoyment of quessing and deducting and speculating. It will be like "Yep, Shepard is indoctrinated, the ending is a dream, the war is still there, now what?"

Modifié par demersel, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:18 .

[Ace7]

go for it dude....

[demersel]

PM only. 0.59c per sentence.

[Uby]

 Hi guys

I finished ME3 a little ago (I know I know, I have a lot of catching up to do... I had to wait for the price to drop a little here).

Anyway, I always thought that on ME3 Sheppard would get indoctrinated and the LI would "bring him back" somehow. 

After playing thru the ending and, well, get hit by the reaper laser, which vaporized everyone else while I was running to the beam and also on Rannoch, and seeing that part of the Citadel and thinking: huh, this looks like the Shadow Broker ship or this looks like the ramp on the Cerberus base and everything about the Catalyst, I understood all this talk about the ending ( I was restraining myself to read anything about it).

At first, I thought it was bad writing and rushed development and then I read about the indoctrination theory.  Wow! Many things made sense to me now and I've been reading a lot about the IT and watching you tube videos (please, let IT be true!!!).  I read a lot of the posts and the last ones were a compilation of unanswered
questions.  I have two major questions that I don’t know if it has been discussed yet, sorry if it has been, I didn’t
have time to read everything yet.

One is, why London? It was very suddenly ( to me anyway) that London became a important city to the reapers and even Anderson told that he was born and raised there!    Maybe I'm been picky, maybe it is just for the sake of the story they pick a city and that's it.  Anybody knows?  Actually, I found I pretty good explanation  here: http://koobismo.devi...set=24#/d4t7eeb  

The other is why so much trouble to get Sheppard indoctrinated?  I know Sheppard is special, he even is able
to snap Saren and TIM out of it briefly.  While reading the compilation of questions, I read about the reapers
been shackled/unshackled AI.  That is interesting I never thought of that... since Leviathan said that a reaper is
born at the end of every cycle, you guys think that maybe they are trying to build a human reaper with Sheppard's mind?  

Modifié par Uby, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:17 .

[Ace7]

demersel wrote...

PM only. 0.59c per sentence.

baahahaha. should have seen that coming.

[RavenEyry]

Oh yeah, why London? Is another question for that list you guys were doing. Anderson mentions reaper forces converging on it before the citadel is moved and it's never explained.

[Bill Casey]

this is a list of all IT evidence to date:

- child running into a locked door
 - reaper noise when shepard talks to kid 
- ventboy appearing alive after explosion
- no one noticing/helping child when he climbs on alliance transporter
- warning signs wherever child appeared
- dream sequences with oily shadows, whispers, shepard chasing ventboy
- shepard complains of headaches
- indoctrination codex entry
- white fade in/outs whenever something dream-like occurs
- anderson being nowhere near shepard during the beam run
- harbinger not shooting down the normandy
- remark about the citadel looking like collector's base (pulled from memory)
- shepard hearing radio comm even though his/her armor is gone
- ashley and kaiden bodies only throughout citadel
- 1 m1 
-  anderson being ahead of shepard even though you never see him
- shepard bleeding from the same place he/she supposedly shot anderson
- mysterious elevator ride up to the catalyst
- control cut scene associated with TIM, destroy with anderson
- gun changing before and after the destroy explosion
- breath scene in destroy, official shepard lives
- saren advocating synthesis
- TIM advocating control 
- Coat's corpse on the Citadel (only seen with flycam though)
- "SO BE IT" (Starbrat obviously siding with reapers)
- Catalyst/AI using image of the kid (so they are messing with your mind, even in a literal POV) 
- the discussion between TIM and Anderson being directed to Shepard (eye contact confirms this)
- Arrival DLC (Object Rho and especially dialogue with Harbinger saying sth like "Your mind will be ours!")
- the beam not killing Shepard, though it certainly is able to oneshot gunships 
- the relay explosions start at the wrong place
- the rachni queen's description of indoctrination and the black tentacle things creeping across the screen in the TIM scene
- unlimited ammo after shepard is knocked down in beam run
- shepard's constant exposure to reaper artifacts
- no HUD in the ending at all, only other instance are dreams
-
rana thanoptis registered case of indoctrination and description of her
case very much like shepard's symptoms (and same length of exposure)
- shepard going from barely able to move to acting like she/he hasn't been hurt when going toward device 
- vega asking about humming noise on the normandy

- Anderson looking at the camera and saying "They're controlling you!"
- Leviathan Seizing Shepard's mind shows Shepard on his hands and knees being approached by an entity pulled from his memories
- Some Shepards outright being struck by Object Rho, and being sedated for two days. Harbinger says "Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine"
- Recurring nightmares are a symptom in the audio logs in Arrival
- Indoctrinated Prothean Separatists advocate control
- Indoctrinated Desolas Arterius advocates control and synthesis
- EDI telling you Reapers use peace treaty ruses to pacify people while they indoctrinate them
- Sensations of darkness and cold. Anderson says he's in a dark hallway, and Shepard says he feels like death
- All Crucible functions being activated metaphorically
- Shepard seeing things that undisputably aren't happening. Like TIM and Anderson activating choices
- Shepard's idle animated in ME2&3 is him looking around, acting paranoid
- Buzzing and Ringing prevalent in ME3's musical score
- Infrasound present in game
- Shepard hearing whispers, oily tendrils on the screen and shooting people against his will during the TIM standoff. The scene that follows this is not grounded in reality
- Shepard outright has his mind seized by Leviathan
- Both community managers say IT is equally valid to non IT

Modifié par Bill Casey, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:29 .

[demersel]

Ok.
To start of my purely logical proof, we must firts agree on a couple of facts, which i will then use to build my proof upon.

Those facts are:
- ME universe is a multimillion dollar original intellectual property, one of the two that bioware made from zero.
- EA is evil, in a sense that it only cares about money.
- Bioware and EA are first and foremost business.

Can we all agree on those points?

[Ace7]

Uby wrote...

 you guys think that maybe they are trying to build a human reaper with Sheppard's mind?  

quite possible. quite possible.

[RavenEyry]

demersel wrote...
- EA is evil, in a sense that it only cares about money.
 

Seems they care more about Origin than money since they just -bleep-ed of sims fans by preventing non-origin users getting the latest expansion.

[demersel]

Origin = money in the long run. No surprise in that. It is called investing.

[estebanus]

I'm still waiting, Demersel. I want your conclusive proof of IT's validity.

Also, on an unrelated note, I was just asked if I want to join the foreign legion. I'm still debating whether I should accept or decline. I'm probably gonna say no, though.