Modifié par Norlond, 11 septembre 2012 - 10:51 .
byne wrote...
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
If this has already been adressed, please forgive me, but this is the first time I've ever opened an IT thread and I quite frankly don't feel like crawling through all these pages.
Shepard proved unable to break through Leviathan's mind prison thingy by himself, and it only let go when it felt like it. Isn't this a big problem for IT?
Leviathan's indoctrination is clearly stronger than regular Reaper indoctrination, seeing as how it can even indoctrinate Reaper troops, and can do so instantaneously.
Shepard does point out that now the Reapers have followed him/her to the last hiding place of the Leviathans, there's no turning back for anyone. If they want to survive, they will have to join the war effort, and they seem to recognise that Shepard plays a fairly pivotal role in the war.Home run MF wrote...
byne wrote...
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
If this has already been adressed, please forgive me, but this is the first time I've ever opened an IT thread and I quite frankly don't feel like crawling through all these pages.
Shepard proved unable to break through Leviathan's mind prison thingy by himself, and it only let go when it felt like it. Isn't this a big problem for IT?
Leviathan's indoctrination is clearly stronger than regular Reaper indoctrination, seeing as how it can even indoctrinate Reaper troops, and can do so instantaneously.
I don't know Shepard seemed pretty strong during that conversation with Leviathan, when he says that she will remain there with them and everyone else will be harvested she immediately screams no. When Garneau was nosebleeding he was completly under their control. Shepard was bleeding and still remained herself. Why would they let her go if they could've fully taken control of her in that moment? What does Leviathan mean when he says she's an anomaly?
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
A fair point, and that seems like a fairly basic element that I missed about IT. However, it seems to me that the games prove that once the Reapers gain a foothold in your mind they're there to stay. Inducing such hallucinations in someone seems to imply a fair amount of control over a person's mind.
byne wrote...
One thing about Leviathan that really bugged me is when EDI asks if the chunk of Sovereign was shielded to protect against indoctrination.
She acts like thats some common thing, and that indoctrination shields are things that exist. Why have we never heard of these miraculous shields before?
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
Shepard does point out that now the Reapers have followed him/her to the last hiding place of the Leviathans, there's no turning back for anyone. If they want to survive, they will have to join the war effort, and they seem to recognise that Shepard plays a fairly pivotal role in the war.Home run MF wrote...
byne wrote...
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
If this has already been adressed, please forgive me, but this is the first time I've ever opened an IT thread and I quite frankly don't feel like crawling through all these pages.
Shepard proved unable to break through Leviathan's mind prison thingy by himself, and it only let go when it felt like it. Isn't this a big problem for IT?
Leviathan's indoctrination is clearly stronger than regular Reaper indoctrination, seeing as how it can even indoctrinate Reaper troops, and can do so instantaneously.
I don't know Shepard seemed pretty strong during that conversation with Leviathan, when he says that she will remain there with them and everyone else will be harvested she immediately screams no. When Garneau was nosebleeding he was completly under their control. Shepard was bleeding and still remained herself. Why would they let her go if they could've fully taken control of her in that moment? What does Leviathan mean when he says she's an anomaly?
They survived because they hid. When the Reapers unleashed hell upon them, the Leviathans died in droves. They are not following a simple human, and they say as much. It is a simple matter of fighting together or dying alone, and be on their separate ways after it's done.Home run MF wrote...
They survived for eons, and they seem very capable of defending themselves. You think the self proclaimed apex race would follow a simple human just because of a speech?
Don't you think that after they are done, the Leviathans would try to reclaim their spot as the "apex" race?Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
They survived because they hid. When the Reapers unleashed hell upon them, the Leviathans died in droves. They are not following a simple human, and they say as much. It is a simple matter of fighting together or dying alone, and be on their separate ways after it's done.Home run MF wrote...
They survived for eons, and they seem very capable of defending themselves. You think the self proclaimed apex race would follow a simple human just because of a speech?
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
They survived because they hid. When the Reapers unleashed hell upon them, the Leviathans died in droves. They are not following a simple human, and they say as much. It is a simple matter of fighting together or dying alone, and be on their separate ways after it's done.Home run MF wrote...
They survived for eons, and they seem very capable of defending themselves. You think the self proclaimed apex race would follow a simple human just because of a speech?
Yes, exactly.401 Kill wrote...
Don't you think that after they are done, the Leviathans would try to reclaim their spot as the "apex" race?Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
They survived because they hid. When the Reapers unleashed hell upon them, the Leviathans died in droves. They are not following a simple human, and they say as much. It is a simple matter of fighting together or dying alone, and be on their separate ways after it's done.Home run MF wrote...
They survived for eons, and they seem very capable of defending themselves. You think the self proclaimed apex race would follow a simple human just because of a speech?
Oh, yes. Quite an important detail I forgot. I'd blame it on me being tired, but there's really no excuse. But it's true that when the downfall of the Leviathans came, it was at the hand of an army nowhere near the strength of the Reaper fleet (or at least, that's what I assume).Home run MF wrote...
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
They survived because they hid. When the Reapers unleashed hell upon them, the Leviathans died in droves. They are not following a simple human, and they say as much. It is a simple matter of fighting together or dying alone, and be on their separate ways after it's done.Home run MF wrote...
They survived for eons, and they seem very capable of defending themselves. You think the self proclaimed apex race would follow a simple human just because of a speech?
When the Leviathans where harvested the Reapers didn't exist, Harbinger is the first Reaper and he was made from harvesting them. The only thing they say is that they will attack any Reapers that invade that waterworld and give you a few orbs nothing else.
byne wrote...
Leviathan's indoctrination is clearly stronger than regular Reaper indoctrination, seeing as how it can even indoctrinate Reaper troops, and can do so instantaneously.
Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 12 septembre 2012 - 12:32 .
Big_Boss9 wrote...
And we continue to fail every 4th Operation. MP DLC announcement coming soon? Let's hope.
demersel wrote...
EA almost admitted, that if Casey Hudson would propose to do the whole IT thing - they would back him up. And would do so again for any of his future games.
www.vg247.com/2012/09/11/bioware-owns-its-creative-culture-is-free-to-make-new-ips-says-gibeau/comment-page-1/
Good or bad? If the ending is truely horrible as literalists think...BioWare gets the sharp end of the blade. If it is actually ends up being good with IT then BioWare gets all the glory of making such a great game. Either way it takes EA out of the equation. Am I wrong?
I remember reading that. A new faction in the Collectors would be a welcome addition.FFZero wrote...
Big_Boss9 wrote...
And we continue to fail every 4th Operation. MP DLC announcement coming soon? Let's hope.
Well there have been some rumors about an MP DLC being released some time this month. No one knows what’s going to be in it though, it seems Bioware found the guy who was leaking info. There was something on Reddit about Collectors being added as a new enemy type but I think that was quickly labelled fake.
To me, that read as PR doublespeak of EA distancing themselves creatively from Mass Effect 3 entirely. "We love Casey, he's our man, but we had absolutely, positively, no involvement in the development of Mass Effect 3, we swear!" Well, except for enforcing a shortened deadline, of course.TJBartlemus wrote...
So effectively EA placed all the blame (or glory) of the ending of ME3 on BioWare solely. smilie Good or bad? If the ending is truely horrible as literalists think...BioWare gets the sharp end of the blade. If it is actually ends up being good with IT then BioWare gets all the glory of making such a great game. Either way it takes EA out of the equation. Am I wrong?
Modifié par Big_Boss9, 12 septembre 2012 - 12:41 .
Big_Boss9 wrote...
I remember reading that. A new faction in the Collectors would be a welcome addition.
It would be like Gears of War 3 Beast Mode but more epic. Imagine it...playing as a Banshee or a Brute would be awesome!!
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Big_Boss9 wrote...
Well, except for enforcing a shortened deadline, of course.
demersel wrote...
Big_Boss9 wrote...
Well, except for enforcing a shortened deadline, of course.
what is that about enforcing shortened deadline?? ME 3 was announced in december, with a realease date set somewhere early ortober of next year. During summer they moved release further to march. That is Six Months More ,than they initially wanted.
What Byne said. I also suspect EA pushed MP hard (microtransactions from all!), but that turned out working surprisingly well. I was definitely among the group who thought it would be a bad idea. Glad I was wrong.demersel wrote...
Big_Boss9 wrote...
Well, except for enforcing a shortened deadline, of course.
what is that about enforcing shortened deadline?? ME 3 was announced in december, with a realease date set somewhere early ortober of next year. During summer they moved release further to march. That is Six Months More ,than they initially wanted.
Modifié par Big_Boss9, 12 septembre 2012 - 01:05 .
byne wrote...
Last I heard they'd initially asked for an extra year and only got the six months you're talking about.
TJBartlemus wrote...
Big_Boss9 wrote...
I remember reading that. A new faction in the Collectors would be a welcome addition.
Like how a new Reaper playable faction would be epic?
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