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pseudonymic wrote...

the only "problem" with that is that it's from 03/13. nothing, so far, has had a wow factor. and who's to say that their ides of a wow factor wasn't leviathan?


Leviathan was pretty reach on a wow factor (but only in regards to IT) - And it is only the first DLC. 

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paxxton wrote...

Shifty cow?

Google "Shifty looking cow mass effect"

Also:
http://www.rockpaper...-saves-but-why/ 

ROTFL'd at the Shifty Looking Cow.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 septembre 2012 - 06:32 .


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demersel wrote...

pseudonymic wrote...

the only "problem" with that is that it's from 03/13. nothing, so far, has had a wow factor. and who's to say that their ides of a wow factor wasn't leviathan?


Leviathan was pretty reach on a wow factor (but only in regards to IT) - And it is only the first DLC. 


correct, but. why on earth would any company realease something knowing it'll ****** people off but ask them to wait and buy their product that will fix it all later? while it sounds like a strategy, there's also a lot of bad word of mouth/press that comes along with it that in the long run just makes you lose money. and we've already seen (there's a link around here somewhere) that EA washed their hands of the situation and fully pointed the blame on bioware. so the big bad capitalist idea behind the whole flop, to me, lies solely on people who may have thought they had the best idea ever but it's not exactly panning out as they initially imagined it would.

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 Is there a complete list of IT evidence out there?  All the lists at the start of the thread are either incomplete or outdated, and while the videos are informative, they're also really long; an actual list would be easier to call upon.

In the case that there isn't a better, up to date list out there, I threw this together: 

docs.google.com/document/d/14_pSRzmHAARUx1SzRJaHMYBhBr5_ymMMgRmfYO1oXhY/edit

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pseudonymic wrote...

demersel wrote...

pseudonymic wrote...

the only "problem" with that is that it's from 03/13. nothing, so far, has had a wow factor. and who's to say that their ides of a wow factor wasn't leviathan?


Leviathan was pretty reach on a wow factor (but only in regards to IT) - And it is only the first DLC. 


correct, but. why on earth would any company realease something knowing it'll ****** people off but ask them to wait and buy their product that will fix it all later? while it sounds like a strategy, there's also a lot of bad word of mouth/press that comes along with it that in the long run just makes you lose money. and we've already seen (there's a link around here somewhere) that EA washed their hands of the situation and fully pointed the blame on bioware. so the big bad capitalist idea behind the whole flop, to me, lies solely on people who may have thought they had the best idea ever but it's not exactly panning out as they initially imagined it would.


I have a theory on that actually. )))

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zninjazzero wrote...

 Is there a complete list of IT evidence out there?  All the lists at the start of the thread are either incomplete or outdated, and while the videos are informative, they're also really long; an actual list would be easier to call upon.

In the case that there isn't a better, up to date list out there, I threw this together: 

docs.google.com/document/d/14_pSRzmHAARUx1SzRJaHMYBhBr5_ymMMgRmfYO1oXhY/edit

1000 internets for you, good sir!

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zninjazzero wrote...

 Is there a complete list of IT evidence out there?  All the lists at the start of the thread are either incomplete or outdated, and while the videos are informative, they're also really long; an actual list would be easier to call upon.

In the case that there isn't a better, up to date list out there, I threw this together: 

docs.google.com/document/d/14_pSRzmHAARUx1SzRJaHMYBhBr5_ymMMgRmfYO1oXhY/edit


we've been working on social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13414717/864#14094528. not at all detailed, but just a straightforward list for now.

Modifié par pseudonymic, 13 septembre 2012 - 06:39 .


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zninjazzero wrote...

 Is there a complete list of IT evidence out there?  All the lists at the start of the thread are either incomplete or outdated, and while the videos are informative, they're also really long; an actual list would be easier to call upon.

In the case that there isn't a better, up to date list out there, I threw this together: 

docs.google.com/document/d/14_pSRzmHAARUx1SzRJaHMYBhBr5_ymMMgRmfYO1oXhY/edit

You might be interested in this Google Doc.
http://social.biowar...scussion/23709/

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Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...

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Funny thing about this topic.. Joker said "how do you even know you got out of the virtual reality" after I did the one mission where I enter the Geth consensus on Rannoch... and I began to wonder about something SIMILAR to this theory... What if the ending was done not in reality? What if you got stuck in it and didnt get out and you completed the story as a "Shepard AI" given how Legion said they followed you for years like Collectors did minus the hatred/trying to kill you? What if they replaced you with a realistic Shepard AI to keep you alive as a favor for being a friend of the geth and helping them end their war with the quarians?

Makes sense to me...

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zninjazzero wrote...

 Is there a complete list of IT evidence out there?  All the lists at the start of the thread are either incomplete or outdated, and while the videos are informative, they're also really long; an actual list would be easier to call upon.

In the case that there isn't a better, up to date list out there, I threw this together: 

docs.google.com/document/d/14_pSRzmHAARUx1SzRJaHMYBhBr5_ymMMgRmfYO1oXhY/edit


Very nice list. I tried making a document similar to what you've done. I hadn't gotten to listing all the evidence supporting IT in my document, but I had in depth analysis of both dev comments and why the literal ending destroys the entire series, makes no sense, and therefor cannot be what BIoware intented. I still have it up if you'd like to take a look.

EDIT: Ninja'd by paxxton.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 13 septembre 2012 - 06:43 .


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Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...


Cheating as in academic or in relationships?

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Well made list you've got there zninja.

Modifié par RavenEyry, 13 septembre 2012 - 06:43 .


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OMGsideboob wrote...

Funny thing about this topic.. Joker said "how do you even know you got out of the virtual reality" after I did the one mission where I enter the Geth consensus on Rannoch... and I began to wonder about something SIMILAR to this theory... What if the ending was done not in reality? What if you got stuck in it and didnt get out and you completed the story as a "Shepard AI" given how Legion said they followed you for years like Collectors did minus the hatred/trying to kill you? What if they replaced you with a realistic Shepard AI to keep you alive as a favor for being a friend of the geth and helping them end their war with the quarians?

Makes sense to me...


don't forget shepard's comment when watching the log for project lazarus, about possibly "being an AI who thinks it's shepard".

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Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...

Include cheating in multiplayer games.

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demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...


Cheating as in academic or in relationships?

Academic cheating.

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ah, quick question. starbrat's voice - evidence or no?

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paxxton wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...

Include cheating in multiplayer games.

I could, but I think that would make it too long :P I could go on for ages about that topic...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Academic cheating.


depends on your angle. you can talk about why some do it and the consequences, you can talk about why you think it's right or wrong, you can talk about how difficult it is to get around it sometimes when you're required to cite work, etc.

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ah, quick question. starbrat's voice - evidence or no?

For IT? Maybe. But it is surely evidence that they spent a lot of time and effort on the endings,,,

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Academic cheating.



That's a dull and pointless topic. 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...


Cheating as in academic or in relationships?

Academic cheating.

Is writing this essay by any chance a punishment?

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pseudonymic wrote...

ah, quick question. starbrat's voice - evidence or no?

As it's a list of potential clues, yes. Only something that can be factually proven to be a mistake/laziness/coincidence should be left out.

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RavenEyry wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hello. I'm at school working on an essay about cheating, Any pointer? Also, I still think about that "You'd hold on to your copies forever" thing...


Cheating as in academic or in relationships?

Academic cheating.

Is writing this essay by any chance a punishment?

Ha! No. Here's something to think about: Is me talking with you about this essay considered cheating?

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paxxton wrote...

You might be interested in this Google Doc.
http://social.biowar...scussion/23709/


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Very nice list. I tried making a document similar to what you've done. I hadn't gotten to listing all the evidence supporting IT in my document, but I had in depth analysis of both dev comments and why the literal ending destroys the entire series, makes no sense, and therefor cannot be what BIoware intented. I still have it up if you'd like to take a look.

EDIT: Ninja'd by paxxton.


That is quite a detailed explanation.  One of the things I wanted to include more of was meta-game evidence about how Bioware just wouldn't do such a thing.  But for the purposes I was going for, I wanted just a nice big fat detailed list, because it's easier for me to register information in lists.