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[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

The only thing I need to see to confirm it's Paxxton is the control support banner.

That's not very effective cause others have it too in their sigs. Btw, you're missing on a huge number of posts in this thread.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 août 2012 - 12:25 .

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

Aaaawww, did I miss all the sentimental talk? Now I'm sad

Anyway, I feel that there's a certain reason why we're here. And it's not because we all just have the same opinion. If anything, these last 3 threads have shown that.

It's because we care for each other.

We don't judge people in here, we don't mindlessly attack each other here, we don't less of toher people just because oh some disabilities they may have in real life. We are one big family on these forums, and the bond between each of us, indoctrinationists, literalists like Hagar and Epyon, is strengthened by each new person here, be it lurker or newcomer, who'd like to share his thoughts with us. This has made that bond that ties us together as a family nigh unbreakable. And it's all because we worked together as a family to ensure that there at least is one place in this forum where you can (largely) escape the hate from outside.

I am proud of all of you here, and have to say that my feelings for everyone here is stronger than I ever imagined any internet relationship could be like. And I am proud to call myself a member of this family.

If I was as good at writing these things as you, I'd have written the exact same thing

On that note, I'm off to... nap, I guess. Ugh, you could pretty much call it morning

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 02 août 2012 - 12:26 .

[estebanus]

There is only one ITer I know of with a control ending support banner.

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Aaaawww, did I miss all the sentimental talk? Now I'm sad

Anyway, I feel that there's a certain reason why we're here. And it's not because we all just have the same opinion. If anything, these last 3 threads have shown that.

It's because we care for each other.

We don't judge people in here, we don't mindlessly attack each other here, we don't less of toher people just because oh some disabilities they may have in real life. We are one big family on these forums, and the bond between each of us, indoctrinationists, literalists like Hagar and Epyon, is strengthened by each new person here, be it lurker or newcomer, who'd like to share his thoughts with us. This has made that bond that ties us together as a family nigh unbreakable. And it's all because we worked together as a family to ensure that there at least is one place in this forum where you can (largely) escape the hate from outside.

I am proud of all of you here, and have to say that my feelings for everyone here is stronger than I ever imagined any internet relationship could be like. And I am proud to call myself a member of this family.

If I was as good at writing these things as you, I'd have written the exact same thing

Well, I'm a writer, so I guess that gives me an edge.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

There is only one ITer I know of with a control ending support banner.

I can see you're on a quest to not let me build any quote pyramids.

[estebanus]

Yes.

[Arian Dynas]

I think Epyon's an agreeable nut. Kind of like a friend I have who believes Creationism.

Hagar I think is trying to wrap her head around us, to understand us. I have no idea where she stands now, in all honesty.

And you know what? *hug* I love my little online family. May our questions be answered, but our community never die.

[Ageless Face]

Arian Dynas wrote...
Basically, precisely what Maximized Action and BleedingUranium said, exactly.

Prior to the EC, Mass Effect was ruined by the endings.

All the EC did was make it less of an ultimatum. Instead of IT or the endings ruin ME forever, it was IT or the endings kinda blow.

They're still thematically repulsive in a reductionist veiw.

Also, look here for some questions of yours I answered earlier;
http://social.biowar...717/65#13459070 

The ending with the EC wasn't THAT bad... It answered most of the questions. Kind of.

And I saw the answers. Thanks

Modifié par HagarIshay, 02 août 2012 - 12:31 .

[paxxton]

I agree with what estebanus wrote about this thread and ITists. So touching. *shedding tears*

Modifié par paxxton, 02 août 2012 - 12:32 .

[estebanus]

Argh! So many typos in the first part of it! I'm starting to be affected by masster blaster, it seems.

[Ageless Face]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Actually it's more like what was just said, what they didn't change is the most telling. For me, the most obvious is the galaxy map beamy scene not being changed

Galaxy map? 

Did I miss something?

[paxxton]

HagarIshay wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Actually it's more like what was just said, what they didn't change is the most telling. For me, the most obvious is the galaxy map beamy scene not being changed

Galaxy map? 

Did I miss something?

The destruction of the Relays starts in the Bahak System, where Arrival took place, not in the Sol System.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 août 2012 - 12:47 .

[Gwyphon]

HagarIshay wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Actually it's more like what was just said, what they didn't change is the most telling. For me, the most obvious is the galaxy map beamy scene not being changed

Galaxy map? 

Did I miss something?

Citadel explosion wave starts from a relay that isn't the local cluster, but more importantly the Viper Relay that doesn't exist anymore.

[paxxton]

If that thing with the Galaxy Map wasn't intentional it would have been fixed in the EC. Yet it was left untouched.

[Arian Dynas]

HagarIshay wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
Basically, precisely what Maximized Action and BleedingUranium said, exactly.

Prior to the EC, Mass Effect was ruined by the endings.

All the EC did was make it less of an ultimatum. Instead of IT or the endings ruin ME forever, it was IT or the endings kinda blow.

They're still thematically repulsive in a reductionist veiw.

Also, look here for some questions of yours I answered earlier;
http://social.biowar...717/65#13459070 

The ending with the EC wasn't THAT bad... It answered most of the questions.

And I saw the answers. Thanks

Uh oh. Sleeping giant roused. Rant incoming, brace for impact.

The endings with or without the EC are REVOLTING.

I am not kidding.

The "questions" that we got answered, were answered in the most shallow and unsatisfying ways possibly, primarily by being told that we didn't have time to discuss them, with a being who by all rights should be able to give himself as much time TO discuss it, being an infinite and immortal AI, as he needs. The only question answered was basically "Ok, yeah a few fan theories like becoming the Catalyst confirmed. Oh and we're not really going to talk about the repercussions, and I make oblique references to past events that all seem far off and ominous."

THAT IS NOT SATISFYING.

And that's not even my beef with the whole thing. Seriously, that's just the strawberry on top of a very tall layer cake.

Synthesis, is in a word, DISGUSTING. Aside from being assured by the Catalyst that everything will be fine and perfect and form an absolutely vomit inducing saccharine utopia, we have no guarantee. None. It would be like Tommy Wieseau popping out from behind the Catalyst to go; "Oh no no, you would never get betrayed, you're my best customer" (Linkara references us, only fair to return the favor) You are told you can't force Synthesis. Why? Why is it different now? Why can you force Synthesis now and not before? If Synthesis is inevitable, why bother choosing it? Why not take one of the other descisions and let it happen naturally? And that's not even forgetting that everywhere you see it, Synthesis is panned by nearly every non-indoctrinated character as being not only insane, but out and out evil

And I haven't even started on the "scientific" basis, which is never adequately explained nor covered in any way, and seems to be something pulled directly from the arses of the writers, and if intentional, a sign of lazy writing of the lowest calibre (which makes NO sense for these people who DO research their sci-fi EXTREMELY well.)

And STILL don't even get me started on the moral issues of invading the personal autonomy and privacy of every being in the known and unknown galaxy, to work circut boards into them without their permission. Something that one could draw a pretty unfavorable analogue to quite literally raping the galaxy and forcing them to keep and care for their rape-baby, clearly brainwashing, or mentally murdering any beings whom would be opposed to this, such as Javik, who does not seem the least bit surprised or even bothered, when the Javik I know would have thrown himself out of the nearest airlock at the first opportunity. You mean to tell me Synthesis made him too lazy to be arsed to kill himself?

And with Control it gets EVEN BETTER, failing to explain the Catayst's origins, why you must become the new catalyst, how, or even the method of doing so, a well as the direct defiance of everything established about Reapers, being that they are "Each a nation, INDEPENDENT, and free of all weakness."

And still keeping in mind, by it's own admission, this "catalyst" you create not only admits to not being Shepard, and is only loosely based off of his thought patterns, there is no reason to trust this abomination either. And this is still ignoring the fact that you are basically declaring yourself the galactic guardian, police chief of the entire galaxy, with an unconquerable army, forcing the entire galaxy into a facist police state, and STILL ignoring that Reapers, being made from the dead and collected souls of entire species, merged in the most horrific and likely painful ways imaginable, are still basically corpses dancing to your tune.

If this were a fantasy game, the option to Destroy All Undead would be far FAR and away seen as more good than the option to "Turn everyone half dead" and "Control All Undead." Kind of puts it in perspective, don't it?

That, and to top it off, this all has the enormous detriment of making the hero completely wrong, and basically invalidating the need for an ME1 or an ME2, as well as ME3 itself, since it makes the villains wright and the hero wrong, there is no point for the hero to do what a hero does, and Shepard might as well lie down and die on Eden Prime if Saren is completely right.

EVEN THOUGH IN GAME WE PROVIDED MORE COUNTEREXAMPLES THAN THERE ARE EXAMPLES. Like the Geth Quarian peace, EDI, every thing ever told to you by Javik or anyone else really, or the fact that NOT MINUTES AGO, concerning Control, you could prove the Illusive Man so wrong about Control that he shoots himself in the head for it.

[Norlond]

You really want us lurkers to come out of Lurkyland? Our numbers will darken the sky pages of every world thread

I am a lurker since day one (or two (or three)) of the first thread - I know, shame on me
But watching you guys is like watching an intellectual Sitcom, it's very enjoyable, even with a troll crossing here and there (my thoughts on that: Haters gonna hate, it's a law of nature and you can't argue with mother nature, unless... well... )

Most times i feel like I have nothing to add to this family, you are perfect as you are! This is the friendliest thread I have seen in a long time.

Now, before I create a monumental wall of text, I'll just leave you to your smalltalk, but...
FEEL WATCHED

Modifié par Norlond, 02 août 2012 - 12:59 .

[Ace7]

paxxton wrote...

The destruction of the Relays starts in the Bahak System, where Arrival took place, not in the Sol System.

I like this......so many possibilities.

[Arian Dynas]

Norlond wrote...

You really want us lurkers to come out of Lurkyland? Our numbers will darken the sky pages of every world thread

I am a lurker since day one (or two (or three)) of the first thread - I know, shame on me
But watching you guys is like watching an intellectual Sitcom, it's very enjoyable, even with a troll crossing here and there (my thoughts on that: Haters gonna hate, it's a law of nature and you can't argue with mother nature, unless... well... )

Most times i feel like I have nothing to add to this family, you are perfect as you are! This is the friendliest thread I have seen in a long time.

Now, before I create a monumental wall of text, I'll just leave you to your smalltalk, but...
FEEL WATCHED

Aww... ****, you mean someone will take pictures if we masturbate in front of the windows now?

That sucks.

And you absolutely can contribute, everyone can. Because everyone has a unique perspective. I mean look at Lex0r, he contributes relatively little at least by his own estimation, and we wouldn't have the thread without him. <3

[Andromidius]

I'm honestly starting to hope all of ME3 was a hallucination now. Purely because the beginning is so awful, and the Reapers' tactics are so inept its a wonder they aren't shooting at each other.

Though this isn't the same as thinking it is a hallucination. Unlike at least post-crash Earth and the Citadel, which is definitely not 100% reality.

ME3, the more I look at it, feels like fanfiction. And not high quality fanfiction either. There's a very jarring disconnect between the end of ME2 (Arrival - the DLC designed as a bridge) and the start of ME3. The bridge ends in a canyon and you drop off the end, so to speak.

Now the question to me is whether this is intentional or purely bad writing. And we all know I'm loath to say bad writing, based on excellent writing elsewhere in the series (and heck, the game itself). And if intentional, why?

Why make the Reapers look so stupid, and yet repeatedly imply they are unbeatable and Godlike in power?

Why have Shepard saying the dumbest things, or acting like a psychopath all of a sudden?

Why have friends and comrades act out of character, or barely show up at all in a meaningful manner? Why bump into people at convieniant times throughout?

Why have TIM, Anderson and Hackett regularly accessable via holographic communications?

Why have an inept anti-Shepard villian for Shepard to fight? And why defeat him by (potentially) shattering his sword with your bare hand?

Why have the child show up repeatedly throughout the story?

...my only answer is, the whole game Shepard is halluncinating. Either none of this happens, or its all clouded with a complicated constructed hallucination to placate Shepard while he/she does exactly what the Reapers want. That's right, the whole damn game - its the only thing that makes logical sense.

And that annoys me. I want my damn ending.

[RavenEyry]

Another nice speech Arian. Although it's not a thematic thing, I have to mention the crucible's wacky user interface, because it baffles me every time I think about it.

[Andromidius]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Uh oh. Sleeping giant roused. Rant incoming, brace for impact.

Boom.  Headshot.

100% agreed.

[RavenEyry]

@Andromidius: Remember there are many good parts in the game, and that Sheard is being affected by indoctrination since arrival. When in action the Shepard we love shines through but when they sit around on Earth for a while they start saying odd things.

[estebanus]

Ok, I'm done. I'll be back again when I finally don't feel like sh*t anymore.

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

Another nice speech Arian. Although it's not a thematic thing, I have to mention the crucible's wacky user interface, because it baffles me every time I think about it.

Someone said that a sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. I'm not sure if this applies here though. Just saying...

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Another nice speech Arian. Although it's not a thematic thing, I have to mention the crucible's wacky user interface, because it baffles me every time I think about it.

Someone said that a sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. I'm not sure if this applies here though. Just saying...

I woudn't call shooting a pipe 'advanced' or 'magic'