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[Fingertrip]

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

[Dendio1]

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

Turn back, You have breached the darkness!
This is not your domain!

Modifié par Dendio1, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:48 .

[spotlessvoid]

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

The extended cut was a slapped together joke. Slide shows....pfffftt.

There's lots of reasons. Here is a few

Arians mp/sp timeline.

Keep a desire for playing mp which creates much more post launch revenue.

DLC is building up to it.

There is no reason to do it right now really

Oh yeah, money!

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[Hrothdane]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

The extended cut was a slapped together joke. Slide shows....pfffftt.

There's lots of reasons. Here is a few

Arians mp/sp timeline.

Keep a desire for playing mp which creates much more post launch revenue.

DLC is building up to it.

There is no reason to do it right now really

I also rather like the idea of an expansion, which would explain the long wait as development time.

[spotlessvoid]

There's also EDI's line about taking the necessary steps to protect against indoctrination regarding the Sovereign fragment. Steps Shepard has never taken!

Also, Benezia TIM and Saren weren't under total Reaper control, only Reaper influence. They still thought they were acting independently, and working towards the greater good. This shows they aren't mere puppets, they're more like pawns being manipulated. Thats slow indoctrination, it corrupts you and realigns your goals to further the Reaper agenda

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:09 .

[paxxton]

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's also EDI's line about taking the necessary steps to protect against indoctrination regarding the Sovereign fragment. Steps Shepard has never taken!

Also, Benezia TIM and Saren weren't under total Reaper control, only Reaper influence. They still thought they were acting independently, and working towards the greater good. This shows they aren't mere puppets, they're more like pawns being manipulated. Thats slow indoctrination, it corrupts you and realigns your goals to further the Reaper agenda

That's the point. There are no real villains in the Mass Effect series. Everyone who appears to be an enemy is in fact a victim of indoctrination. Even the Reapers are victims. No one likes them.

Modifié par paxxton, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:16 .

[estebanus]

"lol your all so delude IT theory is 120% wrong lol. U must all be religos zalots to belief in IT theory lol. Go get some help lol."

-Excerpt from the book "arguing with idiots", made by estebanusister.

Seriously, that quote is actually a real excerpt from a most "illuminating" discussion I had with a certain anti-ITer. I mean, I know that people can be so set in their own ways that they end up being deluded, but this? That is a whole new level of fail in my book.

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

[DoomsdayDevice]

Guys, I have a question.

I recently completed my first playthrough with 'From Ashes' installed. One thing I'm wondering about is a thing about Javik I saw mentioned here in the thread.

IIRC, it was something about Javik saying he does not believe you want to destroy the Reapers if you kept the Collector base.

Now I always destroy the collector base, so I didn't get that line. But what I'm wondering is... when exactly does this take place? And does he say anything else when you did destroy the collector base? I have no idea if I got that scene at all, TBH.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[spotlessvoid]

Hrothdane wrote...
Ialso rather like the idea of an expansion, which would explain the long wait as development time.

That's a really awesome idea.

I also like the idea that Shep wakes up being protected by the rachni, while Anderson plus whoever gives Shep medical attention, the Krogan clear a path and Shep continues to the beam. Long story short, no Guardian, the crucible fires but overloads quickly-only killing or damaging enough Reapers to make them retreat to dark space. Cue escape from the crucible. Cue Hackett wondering how long before the Reapers return. There's ME4 lead in, cue small fortune for EA

[prettz]

hopefully I'll have my new vid out today:)

[spotlessvoid]

paxxton wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's also EDI's line about taking the necessary steps to protect against indoctrination regarding the Sovereign fragment. Steps Shepard has never taken!

Also, Benezia TIM and Saren weren't under total Reaper control, only Reaper influence. They still thought they were acting independently, and working towards the greater good. This shows they aren't mere puppets, they're more like pawns being manipulated. Thats slow indoctrination, it corrupts you and realigns your goals to further the Reaper agenda

That's the point. There are no real villains in the Mass Effect series. Everyone who appears to be an enemy is in fact a victim of indoctrination. Even the Reapers are victims. No one likes them.

Unless the AI is Harbinger.
Also possible: If the AI rebelled against Levisthan who is to say Reapers didnt rebel against the AI

[DoomsdayDevice]

Of course the 'AI' is Harbinger.

Just the simple fact that his voice changes to a Reaper voice when he says "SO BE IT!" in the refusal ending, makes it obvious it's something that is only posing as the kid, something or someone who wants to look and sound as non-threatening as possible.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:36 .

[paxxton]

prettz wrote...

hopefully I'll have my new vid out today:)

That made my day!

Modifié par paxxton, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:36 .

[spotlessvoid]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Of course the 'AI' is Harbinger.

Just the simple fact that his voice changes to a Reaper voice when he says "SO BE IT!" in the refusal ending, makes it obvious it's something that is only posing as the kid.

Thats what I think is true.

[demersel]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have a question.

I recently completed my first playthrough with 'From Ashes' installed. One thing I'm wondering about is a thing about Javik I saw mentioned here in the thread.

IIRC, it was something about Javik saying he does not believe you want to destroy the Reapers if you kept the Collector base.

Now I always destroy the collector base, so I didn't get that line. But what I'm wondering is... when exactly does this take place? And does he say anything else when you did destroy the collector base? I have no idea if I got that scene at all, TBH.

I destroyed the collector base and he still said he does not believe me, when i say i want to destroy the reapers at any cost. 

[estebanus]

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

By releasing a new game. What do you think?

Look, the IT allows BioWare to cook up one additional game that will center around Shepard and ending the reaper threat. If I were an EA executive, then I'd probably also order them to first realise the plot twist in another game, because I could then charge full price for something that should have already been in the game originally.

[paxxton]

spotlessvoid wrote...

paxxton wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

There's also EDI's line about taking the necessary steps to protect against indoctrination regarding the Sovereign fragment. Steps Shepard has never taken!

Also, Benezia TIM and Saren weren't under total Reaper control, only Reaper influence. They still thought they were acting independently, and working towards the greater good. This shows they aren't mere puppets, they're more like pawns being manipulated. Thats slow indoctrination, it corrupts you and realigns your goals to further the Reaper agenda

That's the point. There are no real villains in the Mass Effect series. Everyone who appears to be an enemy is in fact a victim of indoctrination. Even the Reapers are victims. No one likes them.

Unless the AI is Harbinger.
Also possible: If the AI rebelled against Levisthan who is to say Reapers didnt rebel against the AI

Interesting. Could be a huge twist in the story.

Modifié par paxxton, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:40 .

[estebanus]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Of course the 'AI' is Harbinger.

Just the simple fact that his voice changes to a Reaper voice when he says "SO BE IT!" in the refusal ending, makes it obvious it's something that is only posing as the kid, something or someone who wants to look and sound as non-threatening as possible.

But does that mean it's Harbinger? For all we know, the reapers may actually still be led by the leviathans, and it is as a matter of fact leviathan itself trying to indoctrinate you, using Harbinger as a way to shove the blame on someone else.

[DoomsdayDevice]

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have a question.

I recently completed my first playthrough with 'From Ashes' installed. One thing I'm wondering about is a thing about Javik I saw mentioned here in the thread.

IIRC, it was something about Javik saying he does not believe you want to destroy the Reapers if you kept the Collector base.

Now I always destroy the collector base, so I didn't get that line. But what I'm wondering is... when exactly does this take place? And does he say anything else when you did destroy the collector base? I have no idea if I got that scene at all, TBH.

I destroyed the collector base and he still said he does not believe me, when i say i want to destroy the reapers at any cost. 

But I do not remember having this conversation with him... I talked to him after every single mission. When exactly does this take place, do you remember?

[spotlessvoid]

They could do an extended dlc/expansion where the Reaper threat is only temporarily held back. Then they can take a whole game to resolve it with ME4.

[demersel]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have a question.

I recently completed my first playthrough with 'From Ashes' installed. One thing I'm wondering about is a thing about Javik I saw mentioned here in the thread.

IIRC, it was something about Javik saying he does not believe you want to destroy the Reapers if you kept the Collector base.

Now I always destroy the collector base, so I didn't get that line. But what I'm wondering is... when exactly does this take place? And does he say anything else when you did destroy the collector base? I have no idea if I got that scene at all, TBH.

I destroyed the collector base and he still said he does not believe me, when i say i want to destroy the reapers at any cost. 

But I do not remember having this conversation with him... I talked to him after every single mission. When exactly does this take place, do you remember?

Yes. It is the first conversation you have with him, when you recruit him on the normandy. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

estebanus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Of course the 'AI' is Harbinger.

Just the simple fact that his voice changes to a Reaper voice when he says "SO BE IT!" in the refusal ending, makes it obvious it's something that is only posing as the kid, something or someone who wants to look and sound as non-threatening as possible.

But does that mean it's Harbinger? For all we know, the reapers may actually still be led by the leviathans, and it is as a matter of fact leviathan itself trying to indoctrinate you, using Harbinger as a way to shove the blame on someone else.

As in: the Leviathans are the real enemy, they are the ones who control the Reapers? Could be. There's nothing that really indicates this though.

All I know is that in the ending, Shep was in close proximity to Harbinger, the one who told her  "Struggle if you like, your mind will be mine."

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.  Did you see my videos I posted yesterday?

[DoomsdayDevice]

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

demersel wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Guys, I have a question.

I recently completed my first playthrough with 'From Ashes' installed. One thing I'm wondering about is a thing about Javik I saw mentioned here in the thread.

IIRC, it was something about Javik saying he does not believe you want to destroy the Reapers if you kept the Collector base.

Now I always destroy the collector base, so I didn't get that line. But what I'm wondering is... when exactly does this take place? And does he say anything else when you did destroy the collector base? I have no idea if I got that scene at all, TBH.

I destroyed the collector base and he still said he does not believe me, when i say i want to destroy the reapers at any cost. 

But I do not remember having this conversation with him... I talked to him after every single mission. When exactly does this take place, do you remember?

Yes. It is the first conversation you have with him, when you recruit him on the normandy. 

Thanks! I'll check it out on my next playthrough. =)

[Fingertrip]

estebanus wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

By releasing a new game. What do you think?

Look, the IT allows BioWare to cook up one additional game that will center around Shepard and ending the reaper threat. If I were an EA executive, then I'd probably also order them to first realise the plot twist in another game, because I could then charge full price for something that should have already been in the game originally.

But they said ME3 was the conclussion of Shepard's story. Adding another ME game would go against them completely, and they've been continously stressing the fact that ME3 = Shepard's story ends on multiple sessions. 

Many players wouldn't want a DLC to be part of "real" ending, and I'm happy with the conclussion of the game. I would be really upset if they released a "real" DLC ending, and I'm part of the majority of gamers. Many of my friends share the same opinion, and they're the average joe as well. 

The Extended Cut gave me good closure and ending, and if they removed that from the game, I would be greatly saddened and displeased with the service of Bioware.