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[Biotic Budah]

My theory. Dr. Chakwas wanted to check on Shepard's cybernetic implants early on when she rejoined the crew. Those implants were based on Reaper tech. Harbinger was able to send a weak indoctrination signal through the implants.

[prettz]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.  Did you see my videos I posted yesterday?

I saw it, had a good chuckle. like how Thain shaking his had as if in digust.

[spotlessvoid]

Fingertip...you actually like the endings?
It's not like you'd have to play the DLC.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:54 .

[estebanus]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Of course the 'AI' is Harbinger.

Just the simple fact that his voice changes to a Reaper voice when he says "SO BE IT!" in the refusal ending, makes it obvious it's something that is only posing as the kid, something or someone who wants to look and sound as non-threatening as possible.

But does that mean it's Harbinger? For all we know, the reapers may actually still be led by the leviathans, and it is as a matter of fact leviathan itself trying to indoctrinate you, using Harbinger as a way to shove the blame on someone else.

As in: the Leviathans are the real enemy, they are the ones who control the Reapers? Could be. There's nothing that really indicates this though.

All I know is that in the ending, Shep was in close proximity to Harbinger, the one who told her  "Struggle if you like, your mind will be mine."

I have this weird feeling that the leviathans are actually the ones orchestrating the entire harvesting process. They appear every 50.000 years as allies when the harvesting starts, and through their "knowledge", the organics think that it is actually the fault of an AI that this all has started.
In truth, it's been the leviathans all along, and at the start of each harvest, they infiltrate the organic armies to split them apart in the end. Thus, the organics end up being destroyed by the reapers.
I also think that it was the leviathans who came up with the construction of the crucible as a sort of failsafe in case the reapers decide to break up their alliance with the leviathans.

[BansheeOwnage]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

While I agree, I don't think that the reapers are actually 1 billion years old. I'd say closer to 40 million. Maybe even 37 million.  Ever wonder if the weapon that disabled the derelict reaper was of leviathan origin?

I think the "1 billion years old" thing is just more batarian propaganda or a retcon/oversight. After all, the age of the Leviathan of Dis is not stated in Leviathan even in the batarian video. That would also coincide with the number of ships the reapers have. They don't actually have very many capital ships.
1000000000 years = 20000 capital ships. The reapers clearly don't have that many ships.
40000000 years = 800 capital ships, a much more realistic and respectible number.
Remember there were only ~300 reapers in the scene at the end of ME2. We can assume that almost all reapers are at the final battle at Earth. They don't have 20000. Here's something else to think about:

What are the odds of winning "conventionally" in the Earth battle? Probably better than you think. The quarians have ~50000 ships! Wow. Of course there won't be as many left after the geth conflict, but there are still 10s of thousands. The geth fleet is massive. I forget their numbers, but they have thousands of fully armed ships as well. You can have both factions on your side. Combine that with all of the other forces: Drell, hanar, volus, asari, turian. Salarian stealth dreadnaughts. I think it said their entire fleet was armed with thanix cannons! Human, vorcha, elcor, and batarian fleets. Merc and terminus fleets. Leviathans. Who can kill reaper dreadnaughts with their minds.

Just put them in an aquarium and tow them behind the Normandy! (Come to think of it, why isn't the Normandy a war asset? It could be different if you upgrade it in ME2, and get the GX12 in ME3!)

We would overwhelm the reapers with sheer numbers! I don't think non-super-weapon victory is far-fetched at all.

You forget that not every cycle results in a Sovereign class Reaper, the Protheans cycle did not for example.
*snip*

But the most important thing to remember is we are not bringing the freh fleet of the gaalxy to bear on the Reapers. Humans, Turians, Asari, Geth, Quarians, all these fleets have allready taken a beating and are far from maximum strength. Sure the Reapers have had casualties, but almost every report put ours as worse.

One has to also remember that noone beleives in conventional victory either. everyone is gambling on the crucible for a reason.

1. I didn't say the quarians had a whole lot of firepower. My main point is the sheer number of ships assaulting the reapers is too much. They're like a Golden Gun. Sure they can kill anything in pretty much one hit, but they can't shoot very often. Fighters are also equipped with thanix cannons. A few fighters can take out a sovereign-class reaper before it can shoot all of them. Numbers.
2. I'm sure that almost every cycle results in a new Sovy-reaper. The protheans were an exeption of the cycle in a few ways.
3. No one believed Shepard could do a lot of things. You're going to start believing them now? What's the point of a hero if they do ordinary things? Shepard's has built a career of achieving the impossible.
"Reapers don't exist! Everyone says it!" Oh okay. I guess they're not real.

[estebanus]

Fingertrip wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

By releasing a new game. What do you think?

Look, the IT allows BioWare to cook up one additional game that will center around Shepard and ending the reaper threat. If I were an EA executive, then I'd probably also order them to first realise the plot twist in another game, because I could then charge full price for something that should have already been in the game originally.

But they said ME3 was the conclussion of Shepard's story. Adding another ME game would go against them completely, and they've been continously stressing the fact that ME3 = Shepard's story ends on multiple sessions. 

Many players wouldn't want a DLC to be part of "real" ending, and I'm happy with the conclussion of the game. I would be really upset if they released a "real" DLC ending, and I'm part of the majority of gamers. Many of my friends share the same opinion, and they're the average joe as well. 

The Extended Cut gave me good closure and ending, and if they removed that from the game, I would be greatly saddened and displeased with the service of Bioware. 

Because BioWare have been known to keep their word since ME3's release, right?

I loved how the mass relays and the galaxy were destroyed in the original endings, and BioWare also took that away.

Just because you like the current endings doesn't mean that everyone does. No matter how disgustingly crappy something is, someone will always mindlessly love it. ME3's endings are generally reviewed as destructively bad, something which the game's sales has suffered of a lot. The EC didn't change anything except adding a few slide shows, and if that's enough to make people happy, then I sincerely doubt their knowledge of literary quality.

Some people liking it doesn't mean that the endings don't fail at every possible level imaginable. BioWare would be foolish to pursue bad quality.

Modifié par estebanus, 15 septembre 2012 - 10:06 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Fingertrip wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

By releasing a new game. What do you think?

Look, the IT allows BioWare to cook up one additional game that will center around Shepard and ending the reaper threat. If I were an EA executive, then I'd probably also order them to first realise the plot twist in another game, because I could then charge full price for something that should have already been in the game originally.

But they said ME3 was the conclussion of Shepard's story. Adding another ME game would go against them completely, and they've been continously stressing the fact that ME3 = Shepard's story ends on multiple sessions. 

Many players wouldn't want a DLC to be part of "real" ending, and I'm happy with the conclussion of the game. I would be really upset if they released a "real" DLC ending, and I'm part of the majority of gamers. Many of my friends share the same opinion, and they're the average joe as well. 

The Extended Cut gave me good closure and ending, and if they removed that from the game, I would be greatly saddened and displeased with the service of Bioware. 

We're all the average Joe here. All the people I know are absolutely not satisfied with what we have now. I'm now going to state arbitrarily that I'm part of the majority.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Fingertrip wrote...

Can someone explain to me why they would release a "real" ending after extended cut and after 6(and counting) months of the games release?

Thanks! =)

Significant reasons I can think of:
Dramatic effect.
Production time (depending on How Many things they're making for us).

I like to think the time spent on making EC pushed back the rest of their DLC plans, or at least slowed them down, along with the backlash maybe they thought we ready (yet) for any big revelations with future DLC.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.

I'm always glad to see you around here, of course! It cheers me up a lot.
And, to be honest with you, I could use some cheering up for my current dark state of mind.

Modifié par estebanus, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:55 .

[BansheeOwnage]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

[not-quite off topic]

What I've always found a little odd was the absence of renegade scars on Shepard's body. There must be some at least along his/her back from the cybernetic implants along the spine (would only see them in romance scenes I suppose, but even so). Do you think Bioware just limited it to the face/eyes to save space? Or ... I don't know ... Maybe Shepard has extensive facial cybernetics... Probably just saving space on textures.

That's a really cool idea actually, even though I heal my scars.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

We're all the average Joe here. All the people I know are absolutely not satisfied with what we have now. I'm now going to state arbitrarily that I'm part of the majority.

*slowly raising hand* I was satisfied with the endings. Wasn't thinking about them too hard until I got the Breath Scene, but still didn't effect my initial emotions. EC was just icing on the cake for me, but regardless of that I couldn't/can't help but feel Bioware has bigger things in mind with the endings.

[spotlessvoid]

Seriously, I'm open minded but you'd be sad the dumbest, most nonsense, thematically incoherent, endings ever were changed? Crazy

[401 Kill]

@ Fingertrip- I'm not saying that they will do this, but if they do decide to alter the endings, you would not have to get the DLC that it comes with. You could still keep using the endings that you like, the EC endings. Do you see? Some people may prefer the original endings before the EC, if they don't get the EC, they can still have the pre-EC endings.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.

I'm always glad to see you around here, of course! It cheers me up a lot.
And, to be honest with you, I could use some cheering up for my current dark state of mind.

Stupid timezones... And what's wrong?

[plfranke]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.

I'm always glad to see you around here, of course! It cheers me up a lot.
And, to be honest with you, I could use some cheering up for my current dark state of mind.

You're a strange one

[gunslinger_ruiz]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

[not-quite off topic]

What I've always found a little odd was the absence of renegade scars on Shepard's body. There must be some at least along his/her back from the cybernetic implants along the spine (would only see them in romance scenes I suppose, but even so). Do you think Bioware just limited it to the face/eyes to save space? Or ... I don't know ... Maybe Shepard has extensive facial cybernetics... Probably just saving space on textures.

That's a really cool idea actually, even though I heal my scars.

I usually play paragon so its a non-issue for me, but it would be Really freakin cook to see those scars on my renegade's arms hands and neck and body depending on outfit/scene.

[paxxton]

plfranke showed up.

[401 Kill]

paxxton wrote...

plfranke showed up.

QUICK! Everybody hide!

[Dendio1]

These forums are slowing down..sadly

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Does somebody here have any good news for me? Has anything new been found?

I have good news. I'm here.

I'm always glad to see you around here, of course! It cheers me up a lot.
And, to be honest with you, I could use some cheering up for my current dark state of mind.

Stupid timezones... And what's wrong?

I've been called a murderer several times today. It pisses me off. The worst part was when I was leading a group around our base and then some started asking how it feels like to murder innocents and inciting conflict.
It depresses me a lot that people say stuff like that about me and don't even have the courtesy to at least say it in a more friendly way.

[paxxton]

Dendio1 wrote...

These forums are slowing down..sadly

I was about to say that the thread's been moving fast over the last days.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Stupid timezones... And what's wrong?

I've been called a murderer several times today. It pisses me off. The worst part was when I was leading a group around our base and then some started asking how it feels like to murder innocents and inciting conflict.
It depresses me a lot that people say stuff like that about me and don't even have the courtesy to at least say it in a more friendly way.

Well, I can say I didn't expect that.  I can totally see it though. Did civillians ask you? Why were they on the base? Also, forgive the stupid and disrespectful question, but have you killed anyone?

Edit: You can PM me if you want.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 15 septembre 2012 - 10:09 .

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

plfranke showed up.

If you don't like him, ignore him. He already started attacking me earlier today. I think that he dosn't do anything else than trying to incite conflict between me and him, something I don't want to be a part of.

[plfranke]

@ Paxxton
That's probably because you're delusional

@Estebanus
This kind of talk in no way belongs on the IT forum, but since you brought it up... Why the hell would people ask you how it feels to murder innocents in a friendly way? If you are guilty of that I or any other decent person would certainly not wanna be your friend. Now take your issues off this thread.

[masster blaster]

I think if Bioware is planing an expansion pack. Then it's going to take some time, before we are going to get it

1. They first have to go back from ME1, ME2, and now ME3's playthroughs and try to come up with all of these possible end's we get. That includes the DLC as well.
2. This is the final DLC they are making for Shepard, and they want to make it the most dramatic ending they ever created, and master piece.
3. Building up the story for ME4. It's not like next year they are going to say "ME4 will be coming out on May 4th of 2013" I mean come on they are going to have to build back grounds for the new characters, setting, plot, and a hell lot of things to come. Also if this expansion is their plan, then they are going to have to get all of Shepard's choices that will effect the galaxy, and tie them into ME4 as well.