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[byne]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

What happened? Did Grey's bad kill the thread?

If his bit about Shepard being immune to indoctrination because he has kinetic barriers didnt do it, I think the thread will survive.

He said what?  Are we sure he's not just trying to fake mental defect to defraud the government out of disability money?

Oh and reapers could never control Shepard because we the player control him. Don't think too hard on what he says, you'll just get a brain aneurysm.

Didnt BioWare say they wanted the player to feel what Shepard felt?

Havent a lot of people always said that BioWare is in a way indoctrinating the player as well as Shepard?

[Dwailing]

byne wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

What happened? Did Grey's bad kill the thread?

If his bit about Shepard being immune to indoctrination because he has kinetic barriers didnt do it, I think the thread will survive.

He said what?  Are we sure he's not just trying to fake mental defect to defraud the government out of disability money?

Oh and reapers could never control Shepard because we the player control him. Don't think too hard on what he says, you'll just get a brain aneurysm.

Didnt BioWare say they wanted the player to feel what Shepard felt?

Havent a lot of people always said that BioWare is in a way indoctrinating the player as well as Shepard?

I was thinking just the same thing Byne.  Indoctrination wouldn't have the same effect without indoctrinating the player, and in fact, it really would not be inaccurate that it really WOULDN'T be possible to properly demonstrate the effects of indoctrination without indoctrinating the player as well as Shepard.

[spotlessvoid]

Of course this is the guy who compared IT to Elvis being alive. I have doubts about IT. The fat guy is as dead as MC Hammer pants.

Anderson's in a tank....bwuahahaha

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...


Anderson's in a tank....bwuahahaha

Oh that was just icing on the cake after everything he said. I'm still laughing!

[Rifneno]

401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...


Anderson's in a tank....bwuahahaha

Oh that was just icing on the cake after everything he said. I'm still laughing!

Next we're going to find he means a tank like an aquarium.  A fish tank.  Still wouldn't be the most asinine thing he said.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...


Anderson's in a tank....bwuahahaha

Oh that was just icing on the cake after everything he said. I'm still laughing!

Next we're going to find he means a tank like an aquarium.  A fish tank.  Still wouldn't be the most asinine thing he said.

You have no idea how badly I now want to see Anderson try sneaking past the Reapers in an aquarium on wheels...

[Iconoclaste]

magnetite wrote...

During Shepard's breathing scene I picked up a faint sound of wind. There are some people out there who still believe that Shepard is on the Citadel (not in this thread), and such. There is no wind in space, aside from solar winds, but those are highly radioactive.

It could be caused by air flowing out to space because of broken systems (mass effect fields retaining tiny layer of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas).

Apart from this faint sound, there's not a lot of noise around Shepard, like there should be in London at war. Unless it is believed that everything stopped when Shepard was unconscious. But if he's on the Citadel, silence would make sense.

[Iconoclaste]

I did see Anderson get out of the tank with Shepard, but after that he disappears. Why all this gargling fun about the possibility he might have gotten back in any tank rather than run down the hill?

Ho! I forgot.... The Gray Nayr. So...

I wonder why they didn't address the "absence" of Anderson on the Run scene, since he supposedly went in the Citadel "just behind Shepard". It would have made things clearer.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:28 .

[Rifneno]

"I wonder why they didn't clarify this... I mean obvious my view is right. The evidence pointing the other way just means the evidence is wrong. Why did they make the evidence wrong?! 'tis such a mystery!"

[Iconoclaste]

Rifneno wrote...

"I wonder why they didn't clarify this... I mean obvious my view is right. The evidence pointing the other way just means the evidence is wrong. Why did they make the evidence wrong?! 'tis such a mystery!"

Unless you try to make something up on the fly, I don't see why you think Anderson is on foot rather than in a tank. There is some distance covered between the scene out of the tank and the start of the run. Either on foot or back in tank, no need to cry over this.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[Rifneno]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

"I wonder why they didn't clarify this... I mean obvious my view is right. The evidence pointing the other way just means the evidence is wrong. Why did they make the evidence wrong?! 'tis such a mystery!"

Unless you try to make something up on the fly, I don't see why you think Anderson is on foot rather than in a tank. There is some distance covered between the scene out of the tank and the start of the run. Either on foot or back in tank, no need to cry over this.

Sorry, I should know by now that I have to connect every dot for literalists.  No matter how close they are, your little crayons just can't make the journey by themselves.  But that's okay.  See, the theory is that the stuff going on at the ending isn't real.  Now go play with little whats-his-name.

[Iconoclaste]

Rifneno wrote...

Sorry, I should know by now that I have to connect every dot for literalists.  No matter how close they are, your little crayons just can't make the journey by themselves.  But that's okay.  See, the theory is that the stuff going on at the ending isn't real.  Now go play with little whats-his-name.

I actually see a guy connecting stuff in his head while his eyes show him otherwise. That's okay too, if it makes you proud of yourself. You're here to have fun, after all! Let's have fun, then.

[Rifneno]

magnetite wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

It could be caused by air flowing out to space because of broken systems (mass effect fields retaining tiny layer of dense, colorless sulphur hexafluoride gas).

Apart from this faint sound, there's not a lot of noise around Shepard, like there should be in London at war. Unless it is believed that everything stopped when Shepard was unconscious. But if he's on the Citadel, silence would make sense.

So the Citadel blows up in Earth's orbit and somehow a mortally wounded Shepard survives. I don't see how that would happen. Second the Citadel blew up Shepard would be exposed to the pressure and such of the atmosphere. Without a helmet on, Shepard's head would explode.

Don't be silly.  The devs already addressed this.  We have no way of knowing that the video in End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik and End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik wasn't just Shepard's last breath.

[Dendio1]

Shades of grey theory people.

 Shepard's exposure to reaper tech resulted in disturbing dreams and emotional instability. The endings were real and shepard made his final choice of his own free will.

Modifié par Dendio1, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:53 .

[Rifneno]

I don't know. If I was to build a space station that needs to last billions of years and endure countless wars, I think building materials whose instructions are "add water" might not be my first choice. But then again, I wouldn't think that the solution to preventing synthetics from killing organics to build synthetics and program them to kill organics, so what do I know.

[Iconoclaste]

magnetite wrote...

They said a piece of rebar fell on him. Citadel was made of futuristic materials. Rebar is used in the construction of concrete, a primitive material, with it's use dating back to 12,000,000 BC.

A piece of rebar would be a segment of round metal a few feet long at worst, weighting a few kilograms. It ise used to reinforce concrete, and can be seen in London protuding from broken  concrete blocks. Compare these with the "breath scene". That is what pinned Shepard to the ground, really?

Those are cables shown in the "breath scene". Smart IT guys here discussed that lenghtly and dismissed the "rebar". Do you remember?

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:54 .

[paxxton]

Dendio1 wrote...

Shades of grey theory people.

 Shepard's exposure to reaper tech resulted in disturbing dreams and emotional instability. The endings were real and shepard made his final choice of his own free will.

What's that theory you've been advocating the whole day?

Modifié par paxxton, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:56 .

[Rifneno]

Dendio1 wrote...

Shades of grey theory people.

 Shepard's exposure to reaper tech resulted in disturbing dreams and emotional instability. The endings were real and shepard made his final choice of his own free will.

Let's call it "Nonsensical crap theory" instead.

[Dendio1]

Rifneno wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Shades of grey theory people.

 Shepard's exposure to reaper tech resulted in disturbing dreams and emotional instability. The endings were real and shepard made his final choice of his own free will.

Let's call it "Nonsensical crap theory" instead.

what? Couldn't read through all the snark

Modifié par Dendio1, 18 septembre 2012 - 02:56 .

[401 Kill]

magnetite wrote...

They said a piece of rebar fell on him. Citadel was made of futuristic materials. Rebar is used in the construction of concrete, a primitive material, with it's use dating back to 12,000,000 BC. A fan at the San Diego conference specifically asked what was the point of the "breath scene", and the answer was that a piece of rebar fell on Shepard.

I'm going to interpret that as Shepard was on Earth the whole time.

Hmm... He said that rebar fell on Shepard? Where would they use rebar as a building material? Earth. Where would be an impractical use for it? A space station. Also, im not big on correctiong, but rebar was not used 12 million years ago, I think you ment some other period right?

[llbountyhunter]

Iconoclaste wrote...

magnetite wrote...

They said a piece of rebar fell on him. Citadel was made of futuristic materials. Rebar is used in the construction of concrete, a primitive material, with it's use dating back to 12,000,000 BC.

A piece of rebar would be a segment of round metal a few feet long at worst, weighting a few kilograms. It ise used to reinforce concrete, and can be seen in London protuding from broken  concrete blocks. Compare these with the "breath scene". That is what pinned Shepard to the ground, really?

Those are cables shown in the "breath scene". Smart IT guys here discussed that lenghtly and dismissed the "rebar". Do you remember?

yeah we thought they were cables, but in the guys from bioware said it was re-bar during that conference thingy.... of course they have misspoken in the past.