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[estebanus]

Bill Casey wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Eryri wrote...

That is interesting. I hope the Extended Cut doesn't count as DLC1 though. That would mean DLC2 = Leviathan and DLC3 = Omega.

Well, EC wasn't planned, soooo...

Don't forget the Citadel files...
Cit1-4 and CitHot

uuhm... what?

EDIT: Top!

Modifié par estebanus, 18 septembre 2012 - 10:51 .

[Dwailing]

So, I see there's lots of interesting speculations right now. The three DLC thing is interesting, and would fit when you consider that that's how many major DLC packs were released for ME2 (This does not include Javik).

[spotlessvoid]

CitiHot....Citadel Air conditioning repair DLC


Pay attention estebanus

[smokingotter1]

Here is the current state of the ME3 ending. I believe the ME3 ending is modular (like legos), we are still given an incomplete picture, and each single player DLC will reveal more and more. Leviathan was a nibble. Omega will be a bite. and Project X will be a diabetes inducing big gulp.



Act 2 will give us moar details, Act 3 will give us the final answer. We have some of the puzzle already, but I can't for the life of me understand what it means. What is "indoctri"?

[spotlessvoid]

Wait, Casey Hudson used legos to create the ending?

Seriously though, where's that picture from?

[paxxton]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Here is the current state of the ME3 ending. I believe the ME3 ending is modular (like legos), we are still given an incomplete picture, and each single player DLC will reveal more and more. Leviathan was a nibble. Omega will be a bite. and Project X will be a diabetes inducing big gulp.



Act 2 will give us moar details, Act 3 will give us the final answer. We have some of the puzzle already, but I can't for the life of me understand what it means. What is "indoctri"?

Betcha drew it yourself.

Still Leviathan brings little new content to the ending. The biggest reveal is that Harbinger is a Leviathan Reaper and possesses the ability to enthrall people.

Modifié par paxxton, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:12 .

[Bill Casey]

IsaacShep wrote...

New levels (most likely Citadel) appeared in Levi's Coalesced file, in DLC level list:



And no, this is not Bryson's lab. Bryson's lab is Lev001

I still think CitHot is Citadel Hotdogs...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:12 .

[smokingotter1]

I made the picture myself. But I thought the biggest reveal or ... idea to come out of Leviathan is that Shepard is not immune to mental manipulation. Leviathan was able to easily trap Shepard in her/his mind.

[Vibez]

paxxton wrote...

Still Leviathan brings little new content to the ending. The biggest reveal is that Harbinger is a Leviathan Reaper and possesses the ability to enthrall people.

Which is a very stable point to start the "final explanation". 

I like the last two pages:devil: You guys can always bring the hope in the critical moments 

[Bill Casey]

More evidence that ties into the "Citadel Hotdog" theory...

Bill Casey wrote...



Shepard: I really want that chili-dog, but there's no restrooms on Kahje.

(Eat the chilidog?)
/______________\\
Yes___________No

We have a leaked picture of Shepard looking at what is presumably a chilidog from the Citadel Hotdog stand...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .

[TheWill]

true.. shep isnt immune.. but he is highly resistant to it.. and has shown he is able to snap out of it... the illusive man believes a high will power is required.. and shep certainly has that.. but i wonder if theres something more to it...

and now im hungry...

Modifié par TheWill, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:17 .

[BansheeOwnage]

I'm back! Are you here Estebanus?

[Bill Casey]

Citadel Hotdog DLC will prove that Shepard is not immune to the devastating effects of chilidogs...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:18 .

[Big_Boss9]

Bill Casey wrote...

More evidence that ties into the "Citadel Hotdog" theory...

Bill Casey wrote...



Shepard: I really want that chili-dog, but there's no restrooms on Kahje.

(Eat the chilidog?)
/______________
Yes___________No

We have a leaked picture of Shepard looking at what is presumably a chilidog from the Citadel Hotdog stand...

[smokingotter1]

Think about it this way folks. The crucible is a really really great analogy to the ME3 ending.

With the crucible each cycle added more and more to the project.
With each DLC more and more is added to the ME3 ending.

The ME3 ending....is the crucible! As time progresses we are given a more complete picture of what is actually happening. Much like how no one actually knew what the crucible did no one is 100% sure what the ME3 ending is. Both will have end points, we are approaching them folks.

[paxxton]

Vibez wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Still Leviathan brings little new content to the ending. The biggest reveal is that Harbinger is a Leviathan Reaper and possesses the ability to enthrall people.

Which is a very stable point to start the "final explanation". 

I like the last two pages:devil: You guys can always bring the hope in the critical moments 

Trying our best.  We tend to venture off-topic quite often these days but when it comes to discussing IT, you won't find a better thread on BSN than this one.

[BansheeOwnage]

smokingotter1 wrote...

Think about it this way folks. The crucible is a really really great analogy to the ME3 ending.

With the crucible each cycle added more and more to the project.
With each DLC more and more is added to the ME3 ending.

The ME3 ending....is the crucible! As time progresses we are given a more complete picture of what is actually happening. Much like how no one actually knew what the crucible did no one is 100% sure what the ME3 ending is. Both will have end points, we are approaching them folks.

That is truly a great idea, especially if you consider we may learn about the crucible itself in Omega! The kid really avoids 2 types of questions: Questions about the reapers creation (Answered in Leviathan)
Stuff about the crucible. If Omega or other DLCs answer this than we have a much more complete picture.

[TheWill]

nice way to think of it...

[Lord Luc1fer]

Hey, Just came from playing Priority: Rannoch and something's occurred to me. Synthesis as a crucible option, even if for a moment we suspend disbelief and allow to be possible, is not even necessary. Not by the reaper's logic, not by any logic. In seeing the geth become a true AI species, 'synthesis' between organics and synthetics has ALREADY been achieved. I developemnt of understanding in this way is surely the 'pinnacle of evolution' the reapers are seeking. I know this may all seem old hat to the people discussing these things everyday, just adding me two cents, after hearing about the Merizan tweet suggesting an ME4 after some kind of synthesis, whether natural or forced. Youg uys were discussing earlier how ME could have ended well with synthesis in it, just not in the bullsh!tty space magic way provided, but from my interpretation, before the crucible is even reached, the moment the combined fleet of organics and synthetics arrive at earth to fight for their survival, that is a true 'synthesis', no matter the colour of the inevitable explosion, and no matter whether one synthetic race, the first of many, the geth, have to be sacrificed to remove the true shackle on evolution, the reapers.

Jus' Sayin;...

[EDIT] Nice one, me. Killed the server. Cool.

Modifié par Lord Luc1fer, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:36 .

[Bill Casey]

Catalyst: Organics will be perfected by integrating fully with synthetic technology.

Fully integrated!
Where do I sign up?

Front Desk Log

Civilian processing ratios:
Adults, 60% sent to integration
Children, 85% sent to integration

Suitable candidates are being assigned to temporary living areas in alphabetical order. Family units are being preserved for ease of processing.

B.

Weekly Processing Report: Sergeant Parker

All on-base personnel have been processed. Integration protocols updated successfully.

Personal Log: C. Talavi

Finally here. Wow, the troops here are really intense. No one smiles. Ever. And suicide on capture orders? Seriously? They call training "integration." I start being "integrated" tomorrow. Can't wait.

Personal Log: C. Talavi

Integration successful. Suicide on capture orders confirmed. Cerberus is my friend. Obey. Protect humanity. At any cost.

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:35 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hey, Just came from playing Priority: Rannoch and something's occurred to me. Synthesis as a crucible option, even if for a moment we suspend disbelief and allow to be possible, is not even necessary. Not by the reaper's logic, not by any logic. In seeing the geth become a true AI species, 'synthesis' between organics and synthetics has ALREADY been achieved. I developemnt of understanding in this way is surely the 'pinnacle of evolution' the reapers are seeking. I know this may all seem old hat to the people discussing these things everyday, just adding me two cents, after hearing about the Merizan tweet suggesting an ME4 after some kind of synthesis, whether natural or forced. Youg uys were discussing earlier how ME could have ended well with synthesis in it, just not in the bullsh!tty space magic way provided, but from my interpretation, before the crucible is even reached, the moment the combined fleet of organics and synthetics arrive at earth to fight for their survival, that is a true 'synthesis', no matter the colour of the inevitable explosion, and no matter whether one synthetic race, the first of many, the geth, have to be sacrificed to remove the true shackle on evolution, the reapers.

Jus' Sayin;...

Nice. If they go with synthesis in a the game, no one will buy it, and Bioware will officially be done. (Which would be good in that case. ) But I doubt they would actually do that. Something to add to what you said. I often wonder what the purpose of cutting certain dialogue from the end was. Thought I'd remind everyone of what the Geth Prime says said before they cut it on Earth: (Reffering to the quarians)

It is a tactically sound strategy - and there is... synergy, when we are in consensus.

Once more, with feeling:

It is a tactically sound strategy - and there is... synergy, when we are in consensus.

Natural synthesis - like you said.

[Bill Casey]

High-Priority Target
Student ID: 12-5D-Prangley
Status: Capture priority Alpha. Bring back alive at all costs.

Vital retrieval subject due to high-level biotic abilities paired with high leadership testing scores. Considered prime candidate for indoctrination and high-level enhancements for subsequent long-term infiltration relocation.

Leadership skills?
Prime candidate for indoctrination and long term infiltration relocation?

Modifié par Bill Casey, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Bill Casey wrote...

Catalyst: Organics will be perfected by integrating fully with synthetic technology.

Fully integrated!
Where do I sign up?

Front Desk Log

Civilian processing ratios:
Adults, 60% sent to integration
Children, 85% sent to integration

Suitable candidates are being assigned to temporary living areas in alphabetical order. Family units are being preserved for ease of processing.

B.

Weekly Processing Report: Sergeant Parker

All on-base personnel have been processed. Integration protocols updated successfully.

Personal Log: C. Talavi

Finally here. Wow, the troops here are really intense. No one smiles. Ever. And suicide on capture orders? Seriously? They call training "integration." I start being "integrated" tomorrow. Can't wait.

Personal Log: C. Talavi

Integration successful. Suicide on capture orders confirmed. Cerberus is my friend. Obey. Protect humanity. At any cost.

Nice dude! More foreshadowing than we thought! I am a bit ashamed that I didn't connect the dots myself there. It's foreshadowing that the utopia advertised is actually a trap...

[Lord Luc1fer]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hey, Just came from playing Priority: Rannoch and something's occurred to me. Synthesis as a crucible option, even if for a moment we suspend disbelief and allow to be possible, is not even necessary. Not by the reaper's logic, not by any logic. In seeing the geth become a true AI species, 'synthesis' between organics and synthetics has ALREADY been achieved. I developemnt of understanding in this way is surely the 'pinnacle of evolution' the reapers are seeking. I know this may all seem old hat to the people discussing these things everyday, just adding me two cents, after hearing about the Merizan tweet suggesting an ME4 after some kind of synthesis, whether natural or forced. Youg uys were discussing earlier how ME could have ended well with synthesis in it, just not in the bullsh!tty space magic way provided, but from my interpretation, before the crucible is even reached, the moment the combined fleet of organics and synthetics arrive at earth to fight for their survival, that is a true 'synthesis', no matter the colour of the inevitable explosion, and no matter whether one synthetic race, the first of many, the geth, have to be sacrificed to remove the true shackle on evolution, the reapers.

Jus' Sayin;...

Nice. If they go with synthesis in a the game, no one will buy it, and Bioware will officially be done. (Which would be good in that case. ) But I doubt they would actually do that. Something to add to what you said. I often wonder what the purpose of cutting certain dialogue from the end was. Thought I'd remind everyone of what the Geth Prime says said before they cut it on Earth: (Reffering to the quarians)

It is a tactically sound strategy - and there is... synergy, when we are in consensus.

Once more, with feeling:

It is a tactically sound strategy - and there is... synergy, when we are in consensus.

Natural synthesis - like you said.

Thanks!
I agree, I doubt they would go with synthesis just like that for another future game, the flaming would be unprecedented, but the discussion on 'natural synthesis' just got the leetle grey cells working

I never heard about that cut geth prime dialogue! That's an awesome little bit of info, thanks for sharing! It really shows how synthesis is about working together to build an understanding between organics and synthetics, and to a certain point shows how evolution of this sort is EARNED, and how using space amgic to develop such an understanding is unworthy of both organics and synthetics

[Bill Casey]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice dude! More foreshadowing than we thought! I am a bit ashamed that I didn't connect the dots myself there. It's foreshadowing that the utopia advertised is actually a trap...

Both the Reapers and Cerberus use false hope to lure people...
Sanctuary was a trap, the Reapers negotiating peace with world leaders was a trap, what the Reapers do in camps in the codex is a trap...