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[Dwailing]

Mr. Casey, you have done it again. That's frakking brilliant. Why didn't any of us put that together sooner?

[BansheeOwnage]

Bill Casey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice dude! More foreshadowing than we thought! I am a bit ashamed that I didn't connect the dots myself there. It's foreshadowing that the utopia advertised is actually a trap...

Both the Reapers and Cerberus use false hope to lure people...
Sanctuary was a trap, the Reapers negotiating peace with world leaders was a trap, what the Reapers do in camps in the codex is a trap...

And what do they do at Sanctuary? They test control by turning people into husks. And not exactly related, but since we're on that topic: What are good examples of tech combined with organics? Zha'til, Collectors, Cerberus troops, and oh yeah - Reapers. Hey look! You fight synthesis for most of the trilogy!

[Lord Luc1fer]

Bill Casey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice dude! More foreshadowing than we thought! I am a bit ashamed that I didn't connect the dots myself there. It's foreshadowing that the utopia advertised is actually a trap...

Both the Reapers and Cerberus use false hope to lure people...
Sanctuary was a trap, the Reapers negotiating peace with world leaders was a trap, what the Reapers do in camps in the codex is a trap...

And Synthesis?

[Lord Luc1fer]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Nice dude! More foreshadowing than we thought! I am a bit ashamed that I didn't connect the dots myself there. It's foreshadowing that the utopia advertised is actually a trap...

Both the Reapers and Cerberus use false hope to lure people...
Sanctuary was a trap, the Reapers negotiating peace with world leaders was a trap, what the Reapers do in camps in the codex is a trap...

And what do they do at Sanctuary? They test control by turning people into husks. And not exactly related, but since we're on that topic: What are good examples of tech combined with organics? Zha'til, Collectors, Cerberus troops, and oh yeah - Reapers. Hey look! You fight synthesis for most of the trilogy!

And yet the synthetics which always maintain their individuality and isolation from organics, the geth, turn out to become unlikely allies

[BansheeOwnage]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Thanks!
I agree, I doubt they would go with synthesis just like that for another future game, the flaming would be unprecedented, but the discussion on 'natural synthesis' just got the leetle grey cells working

I never heard about that cut geth prime dialogue! That's an awesome little bit of info, thanks for sharing! It really shows how synthesis is about working together to build an understanding between organics and synthetics, and to a certain point shows how evolution of this sort is EARNED, and how using space amgic to develop such an understanding is unworthy of both organics and synthetics

Actually Poirot, I have a video of it. I altered the Prime's voice pitch to test a hunch and discovered something pretty cool. You'll notice it as soon as the video starts.

[BansheeOwnage]

Dwailing wrote...

Mr. Casey, you have done it again. That's frakking brilliant. Why didn't any of us put that together sooner?

Wait, do you mean Bill Casey or Casey Hudson?

[Dwailing]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Mr. Casey, you have done it again. That's frakking brilliant. Why didn't any of us put that together sooner?

Wait, do you mean Bill Casey or Casey Hudson?

I was referring to Bill, but I have to give praise to Mr. Hudson for crafting a game with so many layers.

[401 Kill]

Dwailing wrote...

Mr. Casey, you have done it again. That's frakking brilliant. Why didn't any of us put that together sooner?

Because we are not Bill Casey.

[Lord Luc1fer]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Thanks!
I agree, I doubt they would go with synthesis just like that for another future game, the flaming would be unprecedented, but the discussion on 'natural synthesis' just got the leetle grey cells working

I never heard about that cut geth prime dialogue! That's an awesome little bit of info, thanks for sharing! It really shows how synthesis is about working together to build an understanding between organics and synthetics, and to a certain point shows how evolution of this sort is EARNED, and how using space amgic to develop such an understanding is unworthy of both organics and synthetics

Actually Poirot, I have a video of it. I altered the Prime's voice pitch to test a hunch and discovered something pretty cool. You'll notice it as soon as the video starts.

WHY DID THEY CUT THAT DIALOGUE??!! ASDJKJGFHFGGGGGDFASIYG!!

Also, I see your point with the video, but is it possible they simply used the one geth voice actor they had for convenience, because 'nobody' would notice once the pitch was altered?

Hercule Poirot at your serveece, Mademoiselle...

[Dendio1]

Would you guys consider project Lazarus to be a form of successful synthesis?

[BansheeOwnage]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Thanks!
I agree, I doubt they would go with synthesis just like that for another future game, the flaming would be unprecedented, but the discussion on 'natural synthesis' just got the leetle grey cells working

I never heard about that cut geth prime dialogue! That's an awesome little bit of info, thanks for sharing! It really shows how synthesis is about working together to build an understanding between organics and synthetics, and to a certain point shows how evolution of this sort is EARNED, and how using space amgic to develop such an understanding is unworthy of both organics and synthetics

Actually Poirot, I have a video of it. I altered the Prime's voice pitch to test a hunch and discovered something pretty cool. You'll notice it as soon as the video starts.

WHY DID THEY CUT THAT DIALOGUE??!! ASDJKJGFHFGGGGGDFASIYG!!

Also, I see your point with the video, but is it possible they simply used the one geth voice actor they had for convenience, because 'nobody' would notice once the pitch was altered?

Hercule Poirot at your serveece, Mademoiselle...

I think Legion does a great Geth voice, so I can see why they did that. I like it. But all of the combat dialogue is what's really interesting in there. Freaking combat dialogue. You know, for combat. We didn't fight with any geth in the end... yet!  There is also one of Grunt, Jack, and Zaeed. If there was a lot of cut combat dialogue late enough in deveolpment to be recorded, I think we may yet see it in game. Why wouldn't they have put it in the extended cut? Also, your requested synthesis video:
Shepard Commits Suicide

[Lord Luc1fer]

Dendio1 wrote...

Would you guys consider project Lazarus to be a form of successful synthesis?

Read dawiling's blog above about 'just machines' it really brilliantly expalins about 'software' and 'ahrdware' in this respect.

[BansheeOwnage]

magnetite wrote...

That stuff Bill listed is from datapads found throughout the game.

We know. We're just ashamed we didn't put that specific thing together sooner.

[BansheeOwnage]

Dendio1 wrote...

Would you guys consider project Lazarus to be a form of successful synthesis?

No, that's more like an example of a high-tech pacemaker. Unless you count pacemakers as synthesis.

[Dendio1]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

magnetite wrote...

That stuff Bill listed is from datapads found throughout the game.

We know. We're just ashamed we didn't put that specific thing together sooner.

We talking about chilidogs?

[Lord Luc1fer]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Thanks!
I agree, I doubt they would go with synthesis just like that for another future game, the flaming would be unprecedented, but the discussion on 'natural synthesis' just got the leetle grey cells working

I never heard about that cut geth prime dialogue! That's an awesome little bit of info, thanks for sharing! It really shows how synthesis is about working together to build an understanding between organics and synthetics, and to a certain point shows how evolution of this sort is EARNED, and how using space amgic to develop such an understanding is unworthy of both organics and synthetics

Actually Poirot, I have a video of it. I altered the Prime's voice pitch to test a hunch and discovered something pretty cool. You'll notice it as soon as the video starts.

WHY DID THEY CUT THAT DIALOGUE??!! ASDJKJGFHFGGGGGDFASIYG!!

Also, I see your point with the video, but is it possible they simply used the one geth voice actor they had for convenience, because 'nobody' would notice once the pitch was altered?

Hercule Poirot at your serveece, Mademoiselle...

I think Legion does a great Geth voice, so I can see why they did that. I like it. But all of the combat dialogue is what's really interesting in there. Freaking combat dialogue. You know, for combat. We didn't fight with any geth in the end... yet!  There is also one of Grunt, Jack, and Zaeed. If there was a lot of cut combat dialogue late enough in deveolpment to be recorded, I think we may yet see it in game. Why wouldn't they have put it in the extended cut? Also, your requested synthesis video:
Shepard Commits Suicide

Not quite sure I requested that, but hilarious all the same...

The combat dialogue is VERY Ainterestign though. Imagine if we could fight alongside whole unit and control them as we do squadmates? Or assign different races to different tasks a la ME2 suicide mission? So much wasted potential but so much they could still bring us!

[Dendio1]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Would you guys consider project Lazarus to be a form of successful synthesis?

No, that's more like an example of a high-tech pacemaker. Unless you count pacemakers as synthesis.

I think shepard came out of it more machine than man.

[smokingotter1]

(Continuing on my modular thoughts and ME3 ending being the crucible) Just shooting ideas. When I thought about the final final end project to ME3. If IT is true than at the end of ME3 there needs .... a catalyst to change the ending to ME3. Something whose presence changes the variables.

Here's the current situation. Harbinger blast Shepard. Shepard fights indoctrination while Harbinger is still around. Not a great situation. I always thought the Normandy would be the thing that hits Harbinger and allows Shepard to make it to the citadel, but the EC makes it clear the Normandy evacs.

Leviathan DLC (how they handled that soverign class reaper) gives us possible forshadowing to how Harbinger will be taken out... possibly. But the Leviathans are going to need cover. Omega and Arias mercenaries may be suicidal enough to give Leviathans their opening. The ending still won't be complete, there will need to be a third act DLC that  will introduce something that puts all the pieces together that takes out Harbinger.

Future prediction: watch for new MP DLC that introduces maps with the Leviathan orbs on MP missions. Or objectives that defend the orbs on Earth.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:09 .

[Dendio1]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Would you guys consider project Lazarus to be a form of successful synthesis?

Read dawiling's blog above about 'just machines' it really brilliantly expalins about 'software' and 'ahrdware' in this respect.

Seems like mostly head cannon around his shepard

[BansheeOwnage]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...
Not quite sure I requested that, but hilarious all the same...

The combat dialogue is VERY Ainterestign though. Imagine if we could fight alongside whole unit and control them as we do squadmates? Or assign different races to different tasks a la ME2 suicide mission? So much wasted potential but so much they could still bring us!

It makes perfect sense for what you said too. Jack's dialogue is about her "squad"; her students. Grunt is leading Aralakh Company in his. Zaeed could lead some mercs! The geth and quarians are obviously a group too. Maybe they were planning some meta-gaming for the end of ME3 like the suicide run! It makes me a bit depressed now though. "Send Rachni to this location, send Jack's biotic squad here" Stuff like that.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:12 .

[Dendio1]

kind of sad to see the end in sight. last sp dlc early 2013

[401 Kill]

smokingotter1 wrote...

(Continuing on my modular thoughts and ME3 ending being the crucible) Just shooting ideas. When I thought about the final final end project to ME3. If IT is true than at the end of ME3 there needs .... a catalyst to change the ending to ME3. Something whose presence changes the variables.

Here's the current situation. Harbinger blast Shepard. Shepard fights indoctrination while Harbinger is still around. Not a great situation. I always thought the Normandy would be the thing that hits Harbinger and allows Shepard to make it to the citadel, but the EC makes it clear the Normandy evacs.

Leviathan DLC (how they handled that soverign class reaper) gives us possible forshadowing to how Harbinger will be taken out... possibly. But the Leviathans are going to need cover. Omega and Arias mercenaries may be suicidal enough to give Leviathans their opening. The ending still won't be complete, there will need to be a third act DLC that  will introduce something that puts all the pieces together that takes out Harbinger.

Future prediction: watch for new MP DLC that introduces maps with the Leviathan orbs on MP missions. Or objectives that defend the orbs on Earth.

It seems like your plan is simple, let's aria's fleet distract the reapers while leviathan takes out Harbinger. This is a great idea but it seems like there isn't a missing piece...?Those multiplayer objectives would be just giving it away, cool.

[BansheeOwnage]

IT fits perfectly. What is the end of ME3? A place or occasion of severe test or trial. A crucible. Check
Where is the end of ME3? 2.A place or occasion of severe test or trial. A crucible. Check

So, why is there any confusion? ME3 is the single greatest deception in video game history! The end has to be a test, regardless of whether they'll confirm IT. Why would you call a device a crucible if it wasn't a test?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:23 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Dendio1 wrote...

kind of sad to see the end in sight. last sp dlc early 2013

Yeah it's a much shorter DLC cycle than ME2. Though, 6 months from now, Bioware will get that year-extension they wanted to properly finish the game... At least we have a timeline to go on now.