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[Samtheman63]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

yeah i am half joking lol. but those who have that fly cam might be able to take a closer look at him.

Did you notice, in Mass Effect 2, that councilor Udina (with minor changes) is the same character as the man with his lady locked in their apartment on Omega, during the Mordin's recruitment mission?

No it isn't

[RavenEyry]

Iconoclaste wrote...

You start this again?

Start what again?

And why do you compare "DNA merging" with "food processing"? Did you turn veggie while eating peas?

Fine, bad example.

If I spliced my DNA into someone without killing them and then shot myself in the head, I'd be dead. Sure there'd be someone running around with my DNA but I'd be dead.

I have some of my parents DNA, but I'm not them.

[Cheesemonke]

Okay so lets beat this dead horse a little more. I don't know why but my love for IT continues to bring me back. I'm sure it's already been analyzed before but as i play through the end of my umpteenth play through I focused a little more on one of the inconsistencies that bugged me. Like everything else about the magic elevator that takes you to the decision chamber the layout of the Anderson/TIM encounter room doesn't make sense. If you look at the ceiling there are no shafts and no breaks to indicate anything other than the ceiling is one solid piece with a small hole directly in the middle.There is no place of the elevator to pass through. Also the floor of the platform you wake up on in the decision chamber is the exact same floor texture as the Anderson/TIM encounter room, So at the very very least the actual "piece" of floor you are on during this stupid elevator sequence is the same but nothing else fits.

[Iconoclaste]

RavenEyry wrote...

Fine, bad example.

If I spliced my DNA into someone without killing them and then shot myself in the head, I'd be dead. Sure there'd be someone running around with my DNA but I'd be dead.

I have some of my parents DNA, but I'm not them.

I'm glad Bioware did not to depict the Crucible, death and sentience as simply as you do here. A story of this magnitude written by you would be fascinating.

[Skillz1986]

@iconclaste
Face value description for control ending: you will.die, you will lose everything you have"

So yeah, i'm pretty sure shepard's a goner in the control ending.

[Skillz1986]

Not sure how the ai describes synthesis though.

[RavenEyry]

Iconoclaste wrote...

I'm glad Bioware did not to depict the Crucible, death and sentience as simply as you do here. A story of this magnitude written by you would be fascinating.

Differing opinions still don't justify personal attacks.

[Iconoclaste]

Cheesemonke wrote...

Okay so lets beat this dead horse a little more. I don't know why but my love for IT continues to bring me back. I'm sure it's already been analyzed before but as i play through the end of my umpteenth play through I focused a little more on one of the inconsistencies that bugged me. Like everything else about the magic elevator that takes you to the decision chamber the layout of the Anderson/TIM encounter room doesn't make sense. If you look at the ceiling there are no shafts and no breaks to indicate anything other than the ceiling is one solid piece with a small hole directly in the middle.There is no place of the elevator to pass through. Also the floor of the platform you wake up on in the decision chamber is the exact same floor texture as the Anderson/TIM encounter room, So at the very very least the actual "piece" of floor you are on during this stupid elevator sequence is the same but nothing else fits.

I'm more bothered by the absence of windows if the TIM room is viewed from outside.

For the elevator, the conveniently "fade to white" so they didn't have to show Shepard going through the ceiling, but you can see the shape of the elevator on the ground in the "Catalyst" scene. That's as far as it gets, unfortunately.

[spotlessvoid]

"He's not a chicken or a parrot, clearly he's a raven"
Byne


Still making me laugh

[Iconoclaste]

Skillz1986 wrote...

@iconclaste
Face value description for control ending: you will.die, you will lose everything you have"

So yeah, i'm pretty sure shepard's a goner in the control ending.

IT says the Catalyst lies, no? EC even has Reaper-Shep give us a speach...

In "Destroy" the Alliance ships still go around their business after the battle, the Reapers just fell down to the floor ready for "scavenging", they did not "disappear", and we see Shepard "breathe". How come? All "Reaper tech" and "Reaper-derived tech" was obviously not "destroyed", since even the big thing (Citadel) remains in pretty good shape after the blast. What did I miss?

[Iconoclaste]

spotlessvoid wrote...

"He's not a chicken or a parrot, clearly he's a raven"
Byne


Still making me laugh

Chicken is a coward, parrot is a repeater. Raven is a scavenger, but I will not go there. I should have been more "literal" in my name-calling, but I don't really mind you having a good time for this, for free and without booze.

[spotlessvoid]

Say what you want but byne zinged you good man

[plfranke]

Lol icon. You're talking about the literal interpretation. When someone calls you out, you can't take elements of IT to make face value fit your nonsense.

What you're saying is Shepard survives in the literal ending of control because the catalyst is lying in IT.

[paxxton]

Hi. Who wants to solve a riddle?

Modifié par paxxton, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:59 .

[spotlessvoid]

paxxton wrote...

Hi. Who wants to solve a riddle?

****

Why does it keep censoring I-K-E-A?

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:00 .

[spotlessvoid]

plfranke wrote...

Lol icon. You're talking about the literal interpretation. When someone calls you out, you can't take elements of IT to make face value fit your nonsense.

What you're saying is Shepard survives in the literal ending of control because the catalyst is lying in IT.

cosigning

[paxxton]

spotlessvoid wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Hi. Who wants to solve a riddle?

****

Why does it keep censoring I-K-E-A?

Maybe because BSN doesn't like correct answers. Or doesn't see the difference.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:05 .

[Iconoclaste]

plfranke wrote...

Lol icon. You're talking about the literal interpretation. When someone calls you out, you can't take elements of IT to make face value fit your nonsense.

What you're saying is Shepard survives in the literal ending of control because the catalyst is lying in IT.

Correction : IT STRONGLY proposes the Catalyst is a liar, but in any case, that doesn't mean a "literal" interpretation does not take into account the possibility the Catalyst may be lying, or at best making wrong pronostics on the issues. Nobody, not even Starkid, ever saw the future.

[Iconoclaste]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Say what you want but byne zinged you good man

Byne missed the point altogether, just like you.

[spotlessvoid]

Iconoclaste wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Say what you want but byne zinged you good man

Byne missed the point altogether, just like you.

I'm going to say this one final time.

You make some great points at times but it gets lost in your attitude.

[Iconoclaste]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I'm going to say this one final time.

You make some great points at times but it gets lost in your attitude.

Let me call The Gray Nayr in to have his opinion on yours.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:11 .

[Eryri]

Ace7 wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

1. We do, because that's what was placed in the unused line in the Leviathan files. Here are the lines.

No, I'm talking about Sovereign's "supposed", "old tongue" name. I was asking if  it's explicitely stated that Nazara is his old name?

 
Who is OLD TONGUE NAME OF HARBINGER?
The first Reaper. In this cycle, amongst your kind, it is known as Harbinger. 

 

   
Those lines aren't necessarily in order. I've seen that leaked dialogue list which appears to me to be one sided for the majority of the lines and a bit scattered.

  

  
3. Like I said, it's not so much the name, but that Shepard doesn't know the name belongs to Harbinger and specifically asks the Catalyst who that is only to be told it IS Harbinger. And if we go by the lines, Shepard doesn't even know that this old name is the first reaper, possibly unaware that it's even a reaper! That's a pretty big realization to come to at the end of the game when two of the choices you have ultimately side with the reapers. Not to mention anyone that's had to suffer through all of Harbinger's insults would immediately call bull on the Catalyst's "good intentions", which is, I'm assuming, why they may have left it out. 

Edit: I'm also extremely curious as to what Leviathan was initially supposed to say about the reapers and Harbinger. Especially without Shepard catching on that it's Harbinger the Leviathans are talking about.


I don't understand what you mean. I must be missing something here becase I don't see how connecting the two names together results in any kind of big realisation at the end or resulting in the misleading of which side harbinger is on.

Are you saying that the catalyst conversation was supposed to see the catalyst revealing his real name which turns out to be the same as Harbinger's or are you saying that Harby's old name is somebody that Shepard trusts? I don't get it. 

I read somewhere that Nazara means "the watcher" in old Turkish - which would be quite appropriate for Sovereign as the reaper vanguard. It would be quite a big hint for IT if Harbinger's true name means "The Deceiver" or "The Lord of Nightmares" in old Norse or something.

Modifié par Eryri, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:14 .

[Iconoclaste]

You're mostly stalling debates around your tiny emotions, Spot. Care to move on?

[paxxton]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Not sure how the ai describes synthesis though.

"Everything you are will be absorbed and sent out."

[spotlessvoid]

Iconoclaste wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I'm going to say this one final time.

You make some great points at times but it gets lost in your attitude.

Let me call The Gray Nayr in to have his opinion on yours.

gray is the one who came in with the attitude. I'm not antagonistic to everyone who disagrees with me