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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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#23951
V-rcingetorix

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When I play a game, I explore every room, every aspect. Can't believe I missed this one three times :/
Thanks!

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V-rcingetorix wrote...

When I play a game, I explore every room, every aspect. Can't believe I missed this one three times :/
Thanks!

It's likely you didn't miss it. The Prime only appears if you fail to broker peace on Rannoch and side with the Geth.

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

V-rcingetorix wrote...

When I play a game, I explore every room, every aspect. Can't believe I missed this one three times :/
Thanks!

It's likely you didn't miss it. The Prime only appears if you fail to broker peace on Rannoch and side with the Geth.


Ah, I did that in my previous one so I saw him...and in my current one I'm pissed because I had a glitch replaying ME2 and Legion died when I had everyone's loyalty, but the game said I didn't even recruit Grunt...I wanted to broker peace for a perfect runthrough but nope..this time I had to kill the geth to save Tali :/

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I think it is strange that of you don't beat Arrival Shepard has the same vision as was described as a nightmare by one of the indoctrinated scientist on the ship.

This information is from Prettz Zell's video.

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Hi, what's going on?

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BansheeOwnage

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

I think it is strange that of you don't beat Arrival Shepard has the same vision as was described as a nightmare by one of the indoctrinated scientist on the ship.

This information is from Prettz Zell's video.

That's weird; I don't find it odd at all. Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

I think it is strange that of you don't beat Arrival Shepard has the same vision as was described as a nightmare by one of the indoctrinated scientist on the ship.

This information is from Prettz Zell's video.

That's weird; I don't find it odd at all. Posted Image


This video is really good. It's kind of freaking me out tho.

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

V-rcingetorix wrote...

When I play a game, I explore every room, every aspect. Can't believe I missed this one three times :/
Thanks!

It's likely you didn't miss it. The Prime only appears if you fail to broker peace on Rannoch and side with the Geth.


That is freaking strange....

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I wonder if the crazed scientist on Eden Prime during ME1 accidently accessed the Beacon's message. The way he rants is very similar to the vision, and he's visibly breaking down from terror.

Oh, and someone remind me to not go outside this thread again. The levels of stupid, arrogance and bigotry makes my head hurt.

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

V-rcingetorix wrote...

When I play a game, I explore every room, every aspect. Can't believe I missed this one three times :/
Thanks!

It's likely you didn't miss it. The Prime only appears if you fail to broker peace on Rannoch and side with the Geth.


That is freaking strange....

Yeah, it's just plain stupid actually. So, if you make peace, you can't speak to the Geth? WTF?

@Andromidius Agreed.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:00 .


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Andromidius wrote...

I wonder if the crazed scientist on Eden Prime during ME1 accidently accessed the Beacon's message. The way he rants is very similar to the vision, and he's visibly breaking down from terror.

Oh, and someone remind me to not go outside this thread again. The levels of stupid, arrogance and bigotry makes my head hurt.

Say goodnight, Manuel. :lol:

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

I wonder if the crazed scientist on Eden Prime during ME1 accidently accessed the Beacon's message. The way he rants is very similar to the vision, and he's visibly breaking down from terror.

Oh, and someone remind me to not go outside this thread again. The levels of stupid, arrogance and bigotry makes my head hurt.

Say goodnight, Manuel. :lol:


Yep.  I went for that one myself in my new playthrough.  My first seriously MaleShep, very serious and professional but with a mean streak.  Oh yeah.

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Andromidius wrote...

I wonder if the crazed scientist on Eden Prime during ME1 accidently accessed the Beacon's message. The way he rants is very similar to the vision, and he's visibly breaking down from terror.

Oh, and someone remind me to not go outside this thread again. The levels of stupid, arrogance and bigotry makes my head hurt.


This is a safe, happy place ^_^

#23964
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Seems there was a lot of confusion about one of my posts earlier. I said that if we don't get IT DLC in the next 6 months (end of DLC cycle) then IT is done. I only meant it would be done in the sense that we won't see it in game, even if Bioware intended it. Unless it's in ME4, which I find unlikely. So, I hope Bioware does the smart thing and uses it. Or deny it. I hate being stuck in purgatory. Hell, Mass Effect taught me that being indecisive doesn't work. Confirm or deny. Leaving everyone hanging forever will not please anyone.

Is that better?

#23965
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I agree. Honestly I never expect to get a definate answer.

More clues would be great though.

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I would rather they disprove IT than stay indecisive. Despite bioware's belief, sitting on the fence does not in fact please everyone.

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Gwyphon wrote...

I would rather they disprove IT than stay indecisive. Despite bioware's belief, sitting on the fence does not in fact please everyone.

In fact, it pleases no one. Including Bioware in the long term. I am hopeful they realize that, though I am quite optimistic right now. Posted Image

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Also I apologize for no mental scarring, A GIFT IS A GIFT!

And rewatching Leviathan was interesting. I haven't been around enough lately, but has anyone ever mentioned Leviathan's projections of specific people during specific lines and the insane amount of symbolism there?
Ex.:
Leviathan(Ann) : And I must know.
-A scientist studying some minute whatever, let's say BACTERIA, under a microscope.
Leviathan at the same time is studying Shepard(a lesser being) via domination of his/her mind.
Leviathan(Fake Garneau) : We have watched it's construction before...
-The fake Garneau that Leviathan assumed control of at the mining station and the ever ominous shifty eye movement.
This one was the center of much of post Leviathan speculations if I remember. Funny that Leviathan uses such a deceptive character it enthralled recently to answer Shepard about the Crucible. Fake Garneau was also used when Leviathan mentions Harbinger.

Interesting symbolism. I wondered about that myself, though never actually delved into it. Why aren't we discussing Leviathan a bit more? It's the only new content we have...

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Grasping at straws: I noticed something awesome about the new MP telemetry picture.
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"Remember Bahak"
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Remember what happened there? Oh, right - Arrival. That's also not the the batarian home system.

Here is the link for the big version.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:33 .


#23970
Andromidius

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Yep. The system where the Relay explosion started, despite there being no Relay there anymore.

Remember Bahak, indeed.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Grasping at straws: I noticed something awesome about the new MP telemetry picture.
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"Remember Bahak"
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Remember what happened there? Oh, right - Arrival. That's also not the the batarian home system.

Here is the link for the big version.

Also has anyone figured out why the blast from the crucible starts from the system that was destroyed in Arrival? 
It starts there and then spreads out but there is no Mass Relay there any more...any new thoughts on this??

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:40 .


#23972
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MissMaster_2 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Grasping at straws: I noticed something awesome about the new MP telemetry picture.

"Remember Bahak"
Posted Image
Remember what happened there? Oh, right - Arrival. That's also not the the batarian home system.

Here is the link for the big version.

Also has anyone figured out why the blast from the crucible  comes from the system that is destroyed in Arrival? 

Literally, no. In IT, it would be either the indoctrination being wiped out or taking over Shepard's nervous system. Just like the seemingly useless addition of the 2 soldiers in the extended cut. They fight much better in destroy than in synthesis and control, and there is absolutely no literal reason for doing so. It is also symbolic, as Shepard's mind is cleansing the reapers from his/her mind in destroy, whereas they are becoming one (the husks are left alive) in both synthesis and control. Incase you were wondering, the animations are exactly the same in control and synthesis, but not in destroy specifically.

#23973
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Andromidius wrote...

Yep. The system where the Relay explosion started, despite there being no Relay there anymore.

Remember Bahak, indeed.

Really really really grasping at straws: "Mysterious technology" could be refering to Collectors being in Omega, or perhaps that Omega is reaper tech. Posted Image

Edit: Really tired; going to bed. Goodnight everyone. Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:48 .


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Good find Banshee. The fact that I find the connections plausible worries me a bit, but hey seems like an odd thing to mention. Why batarians at all? Really looking forward to the Omega DLC.

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Also why mention the Collector assault rifle. It's some silly promo that almost no one has. They mentioned the weirdest things in these stats. Would not be surprised, in fact I would be surprised if there WEREN'T collectors involved in Omega in some way. The community certainly wants it to happen.

Edit: I was hoping some one would post between mine. Oh the shame, the shame of it all! :unsure:

Modifié par Gwyphon, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:56 .