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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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estebanus wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Restrider wrote...

What I hope to see in Omega DLC:
- Cerberus' goals
- Omega origin
- intel on the Crucible
- Collectors/Adjutants
- Aria/Wrex confrontation (Aleena much :-° )
- breaking Omega's only rule (of course *cough*)
- finally getting to know, if that one dude at the doors of Afterlife made it into the club
("CMon, let me in!")


I would kill for having Aria and Wrex finally meet. If they really have a history like it is heavily implied then the interaction between those two could be epic.

But why would Wrex even be there? He's off mobilizing the krogan, that is, if he's even alive at that point!


Omega DLC can involve more than Omega itself.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

I don't think Omega DLC is just about retaking Omega.

About shopping for illegal guns?


About Collectors and the Base.

About Crucible and its plans.

About Cerberus' real plan, if we consider the TIM we met in ME3 to not be the real one.


You forgot the most important one, breaking its one rule ;)

 

BioWare could include a romance option for the asari councilor (the original one, of course). Posted Image

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If the third DLC is based around Xen/Keepers, it would certainly give them an excuse to use the Geth faction again...

I mean you look at the game currently, and it's...


Reapers

1. Earth Prologue
2. Palaven
3. Tuchanka: Turian Platoon
4. Attican Traverse: Rachni
5. Tuchanka: Cure the Genophage
6. Ardhat Yakshi Monastery
7. N7 Fuel Reactors
8. Thessia
9. TGES Mineral Works: Mahavid
10. Namakli Dig Site
11. Despoina Ship Wreck
12. Horizon: Sanctuary
13. Earth Return



Cerberus

1. Mars
2. Eden Prime
3. Grissom Academy
4. N7 Sanctum Lab
5. N7 Benning Abductions
6. Sur’Kesh
7. Tuchanka Bomb
8. N7 Tuchanka Attack
9. Citadel Coup
10. N7 Noveria Fighter Base
11. Arrae: Ex Cerberus Scientists
12. N7: Communications Hub
13. Cronos Station



Geth

1. Geth Dreadnought
2. Admiral Koris
3. Rannoch

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Just how big was this supposedly cut Admiral Xen mission?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

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So those who believe that SHepard can be indoctrinated by small contact with reapers over the course of two to three years might be wrong.


In reponse to your comment about Leviathan indoctrination, it's not indoctrination. It's ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL. The two things are almost entirely unrelated, and we have no evidence to suggest Leviathans can indoctrinate people.


I agree. I'm really trying to say that indoctrination is modeled after the ADC powers of Levy. It's more efficient for the subject to act the way you want it without direct intervention. 

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Don't know, but there's no "supposedly cut" about it...
It was in the game files and it was cut...

Admiral Xen made Geth into suicide bombers. She got to work rebuilding them if you destroyed them on Rannoch. She became convinced she could use the Citadel to control the Geth...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:11 .


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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Just how big was this supposedly cut Admiral Xen mission?


Link  

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I don't follow. What business does Xen have on the Citadel?

EDIT: Thanks for the link, Home run MF.

Modifié par paxxton, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:16 .


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SwobyJ wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Why the hell Rio? That makes no sense! When wouldwe have time to go there? Eart has been overrun with reapers, there's no way you'd be able to get through to Rio without having a huge damn fleet with you, and that fleet is currently still being built!


youtu.be/ItTwrbgf4sQ

There we go :P

You know that the people fighting there already  are on Earth, right? They didn't invade the place by attacking the system. They were already on Earth when the war began.

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Home run MF wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Just how big was this supposedly cut Admiral Xen mission?


Link  

I don't think that'll be the DLC. You can kill the quarians off, after all. That would then mean you wouldn't be able to play that DLC.

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estebanus wrote...

Why the hell Rio? That makes no sense! When wouldwe have time to go there? Eart has been overrun with reapers, there's no way you'd be able to get through to Rio without having a huge damn fleet with you, and that fleet is currently still being built!

Carnival! :lol:

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Its an interesting quest but I think if theyre going to have DLC centered around the geth they can do better than that.

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Make sure you guys vote in this poll http://social.biowar...ndex/14190983/1

Let BioWare know people still want IT!

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If they make a DLC centered around the geth, I WANT LEGION BACK!

I doubt Aria is Aleena. Wrex said Aleena was a big softie and how she cared about innocent bystanders. Aria... not so much. Or at all. Which is why I'm not a fan of Aria's. The only reason she's never crossed swords with Shepard is because it's never been in her interest to. If it was, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her do so. The only reason I'd ever want her on my squad is because I am a big softie and I strongly feel she deserves to be the one to end Kei Lang. Sadly, won't happen.

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Hrothdane wrote...

Make sure you guys vote in this poll http://social.biowar...ndex/14190983/1

Let BioWare know people still want IT!

I... really don't think BioWare gives a crap, to be honest.

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Rifneno wrote...

If they make a DLC centered around the geth, I WANT LEGION BACK!

I doubt Aria is Aleena. Wrex said Aleena was a big softie and how she cared about innocent bystanders. Aria... not so much. Or at all. Which is why I'm not a fan of Aria's. The only reason she's never crossed swords with Shepard is because it's never been in her interest to. If it was, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her do so. The only reason I'd ever want her on my squad is because I am a big softie and I strongly feel she deserves to be the one to end Kei Lang. Sadly, won't happen.

Oh, Aria does care about bystanders, in her own peculiar way.

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Rifneno wrote...

If they make a DLC centered around the geth, I WANT LEGION BACK!

I doubt Aria is Aleena. Wrex said Aleena was a big softie and how she cared about innocent bystanders. Aria... not so much. Or at all. Which is why I'm not a fan of Aria's. The only reason she's never crossed swords with Shepard is because it's never been in her interest to. If it was, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her do so. The only reason I'd ever want her on my squad is because I am a big softie and I strongly feel she deserves to be the one to end Kei Lang. Sadly, won't happen.

I wouldn't say Aria doesn't care about innocent bystandards. Think of General Oraka.

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paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

If they make a DLC centered around the geth, I WANT LEGION BACK!

I doubt Aria is Aleena. Wrex said Aleena was a big softie and how she cared about innocent bystanders. Aria... not so much. Or at all. Which is why I'm not a fan of Aria's. The only reason she's never crossed swords with Shepard is because it's never been in her interest to. If it was, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her do so. The only reason I'd ever want her on my squad is because I am a big softie and I strongly feel she deserves to be the one to end Kei Lang. Sadly, won't happen.

Oh, Aria does care about bystanders, in her own peculiar way.


Remember Samara's loyalty mission?  Samara asks, surprised, why Aria hasn't taken steps to stop the arday-yakshi in Omega's mists.  "Why would I?  She hasn't tried to seduce me."  Sure doesn't sound like she gives a damn to me.

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plfranke wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

If they make a DLC centered around the geth, I WANT LEGION BACK!

I doubt Aria is Aleena. Wrex said Aleena was a big softie and how she cared about innocent bystanders. Aria... not so much. Or at all. Which is why I'm not a fan of Aria's. The only reason she's never crossed swords with Shepard is because it's never been in her interest to. If it was, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her do so. The only reason I'd ever want her on my squad is because I am a big softie and I strongly feel she deserves to be the one to end Kei Lang. Sadly, won't happen.

I wouldn't say Aria doesn't care about innocent bystandards. Think of General Oraka.

I'm not sure if she exactly cared about him. Perhaps she didn't want to be seen as the blue suns' lapdog, jumping at their every command. Or, she may just have not wanted to give the blue suns the satisfaction of killing him.

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estebanus wrote...

I'm not sure if she exactly cared about him. Perhaps she didn't want to be seen as the blue suns' lapdog, jumping at their every command. Or, she may just have not wanted to give the blue suns the satisfaction of killing him.


Or in case Shepard isn't full on renegade, she didn't want to just tell Shepard to kill him because it probably wouldn't go over well.

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Rifneno wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I'm not sure if she exactly cared about him. Perhaps she didn't want to be seen as the blue suns' lapdog, jumping at their every command. Or, she may just have not wanted to give the blue suns the satisfaction of killing him.


Or in case Shepard isn't full on renegade, she didn't want to just tell Shepard to kill him because it probably wouldn't go over well.

Yup.

Doesn't matter, I still love her character!

Modifié par estebanus, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:49 .


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Wow! I have never read that. it was posted 2 months ago by veru evil Chris, in the thread aimed at moving the IT discussion to the Fan Creation forums.Chris replied:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game. Anyone who does not like the IT or thinks it not to be correct is STRONGLY enouraged to stay away from discussion on it. LOCKDOWN!

You see, what is strange in this post, is that anyone who does not like or thinks it not to be correct is STRONGLY enouraged to stay away from discussion on it. Like, MAN!! Only those who support IT are allowed to discuss it?? Really Chris?? I thought that discussing means exchanging and examining arguements for and AGAINST sth. I don't judge Chris' post, but it shows that IT is important to Bioware.

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szkasypcze wrote...

Wow! I have never read that. it was posted 2 months ago by veru evil Chris, in the thread aimed at moving the IT discussion to the Fan Creation forums.Chris replied:

No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game. Anyone who does not like the IT or thinks it not to be correct is STRONGLY enouraged to stay away from discussion on it. LOCKDOWN!

...Nothing new about that. In fact, many here have used that quote when in arguments about the IT's validity and/or if BioWare denied it.

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Sure was new to him/her..as it is to me. Though i've got to admit to being active only in the original thread..mark I.

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The second part of that quote seems like they want to encourage ITers to keep speculating

And
I think deep down Aria is still a hurting. Her attitude is a defense mechanism. Jack but more poised.