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[Gwyphon]

Personally I like the idea that Shepard resisting the indoc attempt overloads Harbinger similar to Sovereign in ME1. That way the entire series remains a personal struggle of Shepard, while also keeping the whole "return to where you started your struggle" sort of, in the sense that you destroy the final bad guy the same way you destroyed the first.

Either that or mass relay technology-related death cannons. Hell, the series is called MASS EFFECT.

plfranke wrote...

You know what's funny? On every thread
other than this one I stop my posts either halfway through, sometimes
after I've completed them cause I just look at what everyone else is
saying and I think, "what's the point?".

I love this thread because it is largely accepting of (often semi-irrelevant) posts.

Also top...

Modifié par Gwyphon, 22 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Pass or Fail?: The Extended Cut

Note: I will refer to the child using his original title: The Guardian. I will also include information about the Leviathan DLC in this. If you don’t want spoilers, don’t read the marked sections.

So, I decided to try to objectively asses the performance of the Extended Cut DLC to see how it stacked up in actuality compared to their promises. That said, I know some will be subjective, so feel free to disagree, but I’m writing this from my point of view. I also want to note that this is strictly written from a literal point of view, so no IT, WNT, or other alternate-reality interpretations apply here. For the most part, this is not trying to persuade you to pick certain choices, nor will it touch the moral and ethical debates about the choices.

What did the EC promise? Simple. 2 things: For us to be able to see the consequences of our choices on the galaxy, and to provide additional closure.

Part I: Impacts of choices: The EC, in my opinion, did an merely adequate [/i]job of showing the impacts. It was passable, though a lot of parts were vague.

Destroy: Basically Hackett’s entire speech is vague. He doesn’t mention the Geth or EDI once.[/i] Why not? They have[/i] to die in this ending, supposedly. So why not mention them. On that note, why doesn’t he mention Shepard? I shouldn’t even have to say this. There is even a low EMS version of this ending, where Shepard dies. He doesn’t mention Shepard’s sacrifice in the low EMS version, and doesn’t mention any of his/her achievements is high EMS. How do you have an ending to a trilogy like this and not even mention the main character in the end speech? He also states quite confidently about how they can rebuild. When did they learn how to make mass relays? In fact, I remember a certain asari matriarch who suggested studying them, and she was essentially laughed at, which makes sense, considering the relays are reaper tech; the reapers wouldn’t want any organics to learn their secrets. So we can assume there has been next to no studying of relays. How would the decimated survivors be able to study and build them? A better question: how would they coordinate linking the relays, without the communication necessary to do so? The Crucible is a weapon battery precise enough to change the “matrix” of synthetic and organic life down to the DNA, yet it can’t target only reapers in destroy? Really? Levy spoilers: [/b]I don’t know about you, but I think the leviathans are just as dangerous as the reapers. With the reapers gone, and the galaxy in utter ruins, this is a perfect opportunity for the leviathans to retake their former throne. Since there are no slides involving leviathans (why?) we can only guess at what happens, adding to the vagueness of this choice. [/Levy spoilers][/b][/b]

Control: This one probably wins for being explained the best. It is much better in EC than it was originally. It definitely still has some vague elements though. For instance: does Shepard replace the Guardian, or just exist at the same time? If he betrayed his creators, who’s to say he won’t betray Shepard too? The Guardian stated that he was the “collective intelligence of all reapers”. Does this mean when Shepard becomes the new reaper-guiding AI, that (s)he becomes the reapers? Or does it mean Shepard kills the reapers and personally uses all of their bodies? Does Shepard simply replace the Guardian and the reapers simply obey him/her? An interesting question: If the crucible does not discriminate, and therefore targets all synthetics in destroy, this leaves us with 2 options.

1. Shepard also controls the Geth, as well as EDI, because the control beam will not discriminate and will target all synthetics. If the destroy beam also destroys/disables VI systems as well as ships and weapons as stated by the Guardian., that would also mean Shepard should basically control all starships and computers, as well as weapons. That’s a lot of power for one entity.

2. The crucible does [/i]in fact discriminate, and will only target reapers. This in turn means the Guardian was lying to you.

Levy spoilers: [/b]We really have no idea how powerful the leviathans are, but we do know they can destroy a sovereign-class reaper with their minds. I can see how this could be problematic for Shepard in control. I also think they would employ thralls to counter Shep-reapers, seeing as how they are essentially the same as normal reapers. Not good. [/Levy spoilers][/b][/b]

Refuse: This is an extremely vague ending “choice”. It raises about as many questions as synthesis. The reason many people can’t really achieve consensus about this ending is because it is too vague to make conclusions about. I mean, it itself is vague as a choice, because we a lot of stuff is implied to happen, but we don’t get to see anything. For instance, what does Shepard do after refusing to activate the crucible? Does (s)he just stand there, watching the allied fleets get destroyed? It’s well established that Shepard’s radio is acting extremely inconsistently is the ending, but why doesn’t Shepard try to contact Hackett at any point? It can be assumed that everyone[/i] dies in this ending, but it does not show anything. No heroic last stands of important characters, no fleets being destroyed save one shot of a reaper destroying an alliance vessel. The only way to know what for sure what happens in this ending, is to look through the game files to show all squadmates being dead. That’s not what I would call a clear ending. It is not clear why the Guardian continues to fight the fleets if he wants Shepard to choose an option. Even if Shepard refused, why wouldn’t he just get any other person to do it? How did Liara (especially if she’s dead) manage to have the time capsules say that the Crucible didn’t work? How would she even know that? If it fired, but didn’t kill the reapers, it would be logical to assume it didn’t work. However, for all anyone but Shepard knows, the crucible, for whatever reason, simply didn’t fire. That’s no reason to say that. How did the next cycle defeat the reapers? I know Mike Gamble said that, they use the crucible, but that is a fallacy. Also, Twitter =/= canon. Here's how I see it:


1. The next cycle used the crucible to beat the reapers. Which option did they pick? They didn’t pick synthesis (no glowing things), so presumably destroy. But it's so vague. We fought a battle (and lost horribly) so the next cycle could win 50000 years later? Makes no sense. Plus if they used the crucible to beat them that just makes refuse pointless. Actually, that means in half of the endings (destroy and refuse) Shepard is too stubborn to accept their enemies logic...

2. How did they use the crucible? It's completely implausible that the reapers would allow them to come anywhere near that end. They even knew about its existence “several cycles ago” and failed to eliminate the evidence. Logic would dictate they would try much harder next time. This leaves 2 possibilities:
A. The crucible is of reaper design, used every cycle to trick the resistance. They next cycle then uses that reaper tech. Great idea.
B. The reapers are retarded and even though they failed at hiding the crucible before, they didn't learn from their mistakes and let the next cycle use it?

3. Ignore Gamble; they didn't use the crucible. Basically impossible. The vanguard would not let them amass such an enormous fleet large enough to take on the reaper armada.

4. They only reason the council cycle did so well was because of Shepard, Sovereign's failures, and a lot of luck. The reapers wouldn't let that happen again.

5. Levy spoilers[/b]: I’ll let you all wonder how the Leviathans existing and their heavy influence would do to this. [/Levy spoilers][/b]

Synthesis: It is close to refuse in terms of vagueness, but probably takes the cake for Most[/i] vague ending ever. Of all time[/i]™. [/i]It doesn’t do a good job showing how synthesis actually changes things, besides adding green circuit boards to everything. How does it work? There isn’t even a codex entry on this attempting to explain it. What are its actual impacts, besides, apparently, creating instant utopia? Are plants sentient now? If not, then is it saying plants could never become sentient? What about the Thorian? And if plants do become sentient, what does that do to herbivores? Are they murdering other sentient life when they eat? The same can now be asked about all life. How do we eat anything, if we’re murdering it? Or does synthesis make food no longer a necessity? Or, once again, is it implying certain things just can’t evolve? That’s not how evolution works. Nor does evolution just stop as soon as we get circuit boards. If synthesis doesn’t make all humans able to see in infrared, use echo-location, or grow gills then it is not the end of evolution. I don’t even think there is an end to evolution. Maybe we don’t need to breath anymore in synthesis? EDI also mentioned that the reapers, and the species that they are based on, are now connected to all of us. Does that remind anyone of indoctrination? This would also contradict what Shepard said earlier about this topic.

“You-– Whatever species you came from, before the reapers decided to preserve them? They’re dead. They died thousands of years ago. *Reaper dies* And now they can rest in peace.” – Shepard

So was Shepard wrong, and the reapers do actually preserve species properly? Or was the Guardian wrong? If the latter is true, we should doubt much more than just that thought. Many questions.

Levy spoilers: [/b]Again, we have no slides of the leviathans, so we can only guess as to what they would try to do in synthesis. I am going to take a wild guess here and say they would definitely not[/i] appreciate being “synthesized”. They already consider themselves to be an “apex race”. Seeing as they are an “apex race”, and care not for any “lesser” species, one could assume they would attempt to regain their former authority. Like EDI said, all races are now supposed to be “connected”. To me, that just sounds like an easier way for the Leviathans to hijack people’s minds. I don’t think they’d like being connected to lesser species either. [/Levy spoilers][/b]

What about the Synthehusk[color=#222222">™? Is it, not to mention other aper thralls like banshees, a part of galactic society now? What about the reapers? If we believe the Guardian about synthesis working, and the reapers actually being benevolent saviours, then we should also believe what Sovereign said about the reapers being at the “pinnacle of evolution”. Or should we just pick and choose what parts of what the reapers tell us to believe? If “synthesis is the final evolution of all life” according to the Guardian, then what how could the reapers, who are already there, be elevated?

One more question among many, and perhaps the most important one: Does synthesis change the way people think; rewrite them? I believe the short answer is yes, based on in-game evidence. Since there are many, many[/i], many[/b], quotes from characters stating they would only accept the reapers if they were dead, I’ll only cite what I thought to be the most important ones.

“Dead reapers are how we win this.” – Hackett

“Because the Reapers are repulsive. They are dedicated to nothing but self-preservation. I am different.” – EDI

“I am here to fight the Reapers. That is my purpose. My only purpose. I am the avatar of vengeance, the last voice of a dead race. I will avenge my people, no matter the cost.” – Javik

I chose these because, as far as I can remember, it is impossible to achieve synthesis with low enough EMS to have squadmates die, therefore Javik must survive. EDI and Hackett also must survive. What do squadmates think of being rewritten?

“If you change who someone is, how they think, you have killed them. They will be something new in the same body.” – Samara

“That sounds dangerously close to indoctrination, unless there’s something I’m missing.” – Garrus

And perhaps the most applicable, seeing as how synthesis seems to create a utopia:

“If you screwed with my head, made me nod and smile at everything... I’d rather you blew my head off. Let me die as me.” - Jack

My point is, synthesis is a no win scenario. If it does not rewrite people, then Javik, Hackett, logically EDI, and many others would continue to fight the reapers. If they do not, they are rewritten and are therefore dead. As you can see, synthesis now raises more questions, and answers few. Not exactly what I’d call viewing the impacts of our choices.
So what do you think? For the first part of EC’s promises, showing the consequences of our choices, does EC pass or fail?

[Home run MF]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

@BansheeOwnage
Interesting theory about Rio. Hope something comes out of it in future DLC. Also, not to nitpick, but there's nothing in the Earth DLC trailer to indicate that the fleets are arriving soon. Anderson merely says "Until the fleets arrive". His intention of staying behind on Earth was to direct a resistance to hold out ... until the fleets arrive. In fact, I went back and looked at all the Operation descriptions and after action reports and there's really nothing to pin it to a specific place in SP's timeline. Of course, one could be inclined to believe Hellish's theory that MP is but a simulator, but I need to see his theory actually laid out in the video (whenever that's coming) first.

Most of that was written a just after Earth came out, so there are bound to be a couple of things off. I am making a super-secret ending video now.

Sorry for being Shepard kind of slow, so this map would release in a post "ending" DLC?
Also I agree completly about Hydra

Edit: I'm under the giant wall of text again 

Modifié par Home run MF, 22 septembre 2012 - 12:56 .

[BleedingUranium]

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Not to ruin it for ya...but you still are fighting the covenant...that includes elites...

Lol, I'm well aware of that. You're fighting "Storm", a faction formed from those still loyal to the Covenant religion. Some Elites still follow that doctrine, most don't.

Curses!!! You replied before my edit!!!

Haha, I see it now  You can never be sure how much someone knows about something that's not ME, so I usually assume I have to explain everything

[401 Kill]

plfranke wrote...

Do we even know for certain that TIM got Reaper implants? I mean what would be the point of that? It's not like he was going to have a bare knuckle fist fight with Shepard. Unless that's going to be the final boss fight in the Omega dlc.

Well we know for sure that he gets implanted with some sort of tech. It's assumed that it is reaper tech because of his interest in studying reaper technology. Remember when Harbinger says : PAIN IS IRRELEVANT, TIM has the procedure and specifically says to get no anesthetic. The connections are there.

[BleedingUranium]

Gwyphon wrote...

Personally I like the idea that Shepard resisting the indoc attempt overloads Harbinger similar to Sovereign in ME1. That way the entire series remains a personal struggle of Shepard, while also keeping the whole "return to where you started your struggle" sort of, in the sense that you destroy the final bad guy the same way you destroyed the first.

Either that or mass relay technology-related death cannons. Hell, the series is called MASS EFFECT.

plfranke wrote...

You know what's funny? On every thread
other than this one I stop my posts either halfway through, sometimes
after I've completed them cause I just look at what everyone else is
saying and I think, "what's the point?".

I love this thread because it is largely accepting of (often semi-irrelevant) posts.

Also top...

It would also given a "purpose" to IT. IT is awesome, but the only respectible arguement I've heard against implementing it would be that it would be "pointless". While personally I'd be perfectly happy with the dream section doing nothing but defeating indoctrination, I understand where they're coming from.

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

*snipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnipsnip*

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Do we even know for certain that TIM got Reaper implants? I mean what would be the point of that? It's not like he was going to have a bare knuckle fist fight with Shepard. Unless that's going to be the final boss fight in the Omega dlc.

Well we know for sure that he gets implanted with some sort of tech. It's assumed that it is reaper tech because of his interest in studying reaper technology. Remember when Harbinger says : PAIN IS IRRELEVANT, TIM has the procedure and specifically says to get no anesthetic. The connections are there.

Buried in the data

EDIT: Really? Triple post? I guess you're all busy reading the wall of text

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 22 septembre 2012 - 01:04 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Home run MF wrote...

Sorry for being Shepard kind of slow, so this map would release in a post "ending" DLC?
Also I agree completly about Hydra

Edit: I'm under the giant wall of text again 

Yeah, something like that. Another thing about Hydra: Some people argue that since on the galaxy map it says it's on Arvuna, it can't be what I say it is. Leviathan confirmed that Arvuna is a primarily human colony, so there would be no geth presence there. I think it's on Rannoch actually.

Doesn't it look like Zaeed is in Rio in his slide?

Edit: And stupid bolds and italics on my wall...

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 22 septembre 2012 - 01:05 .

[Gwyphon]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Personally I like the idea that Shepard resisting the indoc attempt overloads Harbinger similar to Sovereign in ME1. That way the entire series remains a personal struggle of Shepard, while also keeping the whole "return to where you started your struggle" sort of, in the sense that you destroy the final bad guy the same way you destroyed the first.

Either that or mass relay technology-related death cannons. Hell, the series is called MASS EFFECT.

plfranke wrote...

You know what's funny? On every thread
other than this one I stop my posts either halfway through, sometimes
after I've completed them cause I just look at what everyone else is
saying and I think, "what's the point?".

I love this thread because it is largely accepting of (often semi-irrelevant) posts.

Also top...

It would also given a "purpose" to IT. IT is awesome, but the only respectible arguement I've heard against implementing it would be that it would be "pointless". While personally I'd be perfectly happy with the dream section doing nothing but defeating indoctrination, I understand where they're coming from.

Well it still has more meaning than "and it was all a dream" because it still has real world implications, but yeah I can see where people are coming from. It's going to be interesting to see how Bioware handles the future of Mass Effect.

Oh well I'm off to try and complete this weeks squad goal. I think I'm going to have to be horrible and kick a few people who don't change classes this time

[TJBartlemus]

Just watched the latest RvB episode...what was up with: "NO!! Alison!!" ?

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Sorry for being Shepard kind of slow, so this map would release in a post "ending" DLC?
Also I agree completly about Hydra

Edit: I'm under the giant wall of text again 

Yeah, something like that. Another thing about Hydra: Some people argue that since on the galaxy map it says it's on Arvuna, it can't be what I say it is. Leviathan confirmed that Arvuna is a primarily human colony, so there would be no geth presence there. I think it's on Rannoch actually.

Doesn't it look like Zaeed is in Rio in his slide?

Edit: And stupid bolds and italics on my wall...

It does!

Also, Arvuna is 90% covered in water. While the map could certainly be in some of that 10% land, that's not how I'd design the setting for a map on a planet with 90% water.

[401 Kill]

After seeing that picture of Zaeed in my games ending, I literally thought that the EC was a joke. Same with the Normandy evac scene to be honest...

[Rob Psyence]

Looking at Zaeed in a tropical setting in full armor I'm wondering...does ME armor have ac?

[TJBartlemus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Sorry for being Shepard kind of slow, so this map would release in a post "ending" DLC?
Also I agree completly about Hydra

Edit: I'm under the giant wall of text again 

Yeah, something like that. Another thing about Hydra: Some people argue that since on the galaxy map it says it's on Arvuna, it can't be what I say it is. Leviathan confirmed that Arvuna is a primarily human colony, so there would be no geth presence there. I think it's on Rannoch actually.

Doesn't it look like Zaeed is in Rio in his slide?

Edit: And stupid bolds and italics on my wall...

It does!

Also, Arvuna is 90% covered in water. While the map could certainly be in some of that 10% land, that's not how I'd design the setting for a map on a planet with 90% water.

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Modifié par TJBartlemus, 22 septembre 2012 - 01:11 .

[Rob Psyence]

Also I see product placement, he has a bottle of A1 on that grill lol

[BleedingUranium]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Just watched the latest RvB episode...what was up with: "NO!! Alison!!" ?

Well, Tex is basically Mal from Inception. And Director Church/Cobb has that unhealthy obession that gets in the way sometimes.

As for the AIs freaking out, they're parts of his mind, and hearing the concern for "Allison" got them all scared and probably brought back old memories of her dying, however that happened. Or, if they don't have the memories, they might still have the emotional connection to her without knowing why.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rob Psyence wrote...

Looking at Zaeed in a tropical setting in full armor I'm wondering...does ME armor have ac?

Only in synthesis!  No, seriously, Garrus' armour has cuircuit boards in synthesis. Sentient armour? Really synthesis?

[spotlessvoid]

Lol at A1

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 22 septembre 2012 - 01:12 .

[Home run MF]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Sorry for being Shepard kind of slow, so this map would release in a post "ending" DLC?
Also I agree completly about Hydra

Edit: I'm under the giant wall of text again 

Yeah, something like that. Another thing about Hydra: Some people argue that since on the galaxy map it says it's on Arvuna, it can't be what I say it is. Leviathan confirmed that Arvuna is a primarily human colony, so there would be no geth presence there. I think it's on Rannoch actually.

Doesn't it look like Zaeed is in Rio in his slide?

Edit: And stupid bolds and italics on my wall...

Well since it seems to be a repurposed asset they might've altered the description to make it less obvious.
That picture looks shopped did they change Zaeed's haircut or something?

[BleedingUranium]

401 Kill wrote...

After seeing that picture of Zaeed in my games ending, I literally thought that the EC was a joke. Same with the Normandy evac scene to be honest...

Zaeed is my absolute favourite part of EC

[BansheeOwnage]

Home run MF wrote...

 Well since it seems to be a repurposed asset they might've altered the description to make it less obvious.
That picture looks shopped did they change Zaeed's haircut or something?

I believe the only shop'd part of that picture is the grill.

[Rob Psyence]

Because the grill's vanishing point is different from the dock's and zaeed's

[BansheeOwnage]

Super-secret ending video is coming along nicely. It should be done sometime tonight (where I am) after I eat.