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[plfranke]

Rifneno wrote...

I miss Harby's trash talk too.

I kind of hope that the Cronos Station fight was part of the hallucination because I really think Aria should be one the take Kai Leng's life.

I do actually think the hallucination starts there. The breath scene would make more sense there, it would explain why Bioware made that mission the save point you're returned to, and it would also give Kai Leng a more fitting death. I mean come on, a cut to him laying on the ground? That was the best Bioware could do? lol

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rofl that would be hilarious if he actually said "Don't forget what I said"

It would be kind of a giveaway huh?

At this point, I think they should just do an outright giveaway. I mean nothing huge like "IT is true" but something that for the IT crowd would be 100% proof. Because, no matter what people who don't believe IT will not come to terms with the evidence. So it's not like it would be a give away to them. Some people even refuse to see the similarities between the Leviathan sequence and the decision chamber. There was even one guy who I remember who was once an IT believer that was in here arguing that  what Leviathan did is not indoctrination, but was assuming direct control and therefore cannot be used as evidence for anything related to indoctrination *facepalm*

Yeah, that's all true.

[Rob Psyence]

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I miss Harby's trash talk too.

I kind of hope that the Cronos Station fight was part of the hallucination because I really think Aria should be one the take Kai Leng's life.

I do actually think the hallucination starts there. The breath scene would make more sense there, it would explain why Bioware made that mission the save point you're returned to, and it would also give Kai Leng a more fitting death. I mean come on, a cut to him laying on the ground? That was the best Bioware could do? lol

I'm not convinced he's dead, it took a lot just to cripple him in the books lol

[Gwyphon]

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I miss Harby's trash talk too.

I kind of hope that the Cronos Station fight was part of the hallucination because I really think Aria should be one the take Kai Leng's life.

I do actually think the hallucination starts there. The breath scene would make more sense there, it would explain why Bioware made that mission the save point you're returned to, and it would also give Kai Leng a more fitting death. I mean come on, a cut to him laying on the ground? That was the best Bioware could do? lol

I thought the sword punch then omni-blade to the neck was pretty cool. For Thane, man. FOR THANE! Though it did annoy me that everyone was blissfully staring in one direction. Surely they could have given them something to do, like the station is about to explode and they have to hack the prothean vi quickly or something...

[BansheeOwnage]

The Mass Effect 3 Super-Secret Ending Choice is live!

It makes as much sense as the literal ending! I hope it's at least a little funny.

[Rifneno]

I agree, that scene was magnificent. I almost stood up and started cheering when he said "That was for Thane, you son of a ****." The line was so well delivered too.

[plfranke]

Gwyphon wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I miss Harby's trash talk too.

I kind of hope that the Cronos Station fight was part of the hallucination because I really think Aria should be one the take Kai Leng's life.

I do actually think the hallucination starts there. The breath scene would make more sense there, it would explain why Bioware made that mission the save point you're returned to, and it would also give Kai Leng a more fitting death. I mean come on, a cut to him laying on the ground? That was the best Bioware could do? lol

I thought the sword punch then omni-blade to the neck was pretty cool. For Thane, man. FOR THANE! Though it did annoy me that everyone was blissfully staring in one direction. Surely they could have given them something to do, like the station is about to explode and they have to hack the prothean vi quickly or something...

I thought the omniblade scene was cool also. My beef is with what happens before that. In both prior battles we're shown after a fight with Kai Leng he just pulls out the hand of God and then owns our whole team. This time it's just a cut scene right to him on the floor. I just thought that was incredibly lame and a disservice not only to Kai Leng, but to the better villain Harbinger who had to take a back seat, because of Kai Leng's role in the story.

[Big_Boss9]

plfranke wrote...

I thought the omniblade scene was cool also. My beef is with what happens before that. In both prior battles we're shown after a fight with Kai Leng he just pulls out the hand of God and then owns our whole team. This time it's just a cut scene right to him on the floor. I just thought that was incredibly lame and a disservice not only to Kai Leng, but to the better villain Harbinger who had to take a back seat, because of Kai Leng's role in the story.

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 22 septembre 2012 - 07:08 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.

[Rob Psyence]

lol is that Mass Effect elevator jazz mix? XD

[plfranke]

What happened with Kai Leng was not plot armor. He simply beat Shepard. For instance, when you fought the Shadow Broker, it was explained how you beat him. Something similar should have happened this time around. Oh Shepard overload the do hicky to disable his biotic shield. Make it happen, show it in a cut scene and then cut to him on the gground and it plays out like normal.

[Big_Boss9]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.

Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 22 septembre 2012 - 07:12 .

[Gwyphon]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

The Mass Effect 3 Super-Secret Ending Choice is live!

It makes as much sense as the literal ending! I hope it's at least a little funny.

Space Disco!

[RavenEyry]

IsaacShep wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Also Leviathan never refers to their creation as "the Catalyst" but rather as an "intelligence".

But it is obvious to everyone really that it's the same thing.

No, it's obvious to everyone that's what it wants you to think. Doesn't make it guarenteed truth. Like it was 'obvious to everyone' it was a klencory being of light before EC.

"We've always been at war with Eatasia"

(Sorry for bringing up a conversation from yesterday but I missed half of it.)

[BansheeOwnage]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.

Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

Overinflate his importance? How do you do that to the main antagonist of the entire series? There is absolutely no excuse for him not saying a word in ME3. Could you imagine if TIM didn't talk? Or Shepard? Shepard is the protagonist. It would be almost as stupid as the antagonist being ignored. Anyway, goodnight.

ME1 elevator theme FTW!

[Big_Boss9]

plfranke wrote...

What happened with Kai Leng was not plot armor. He simply beat Shepard. For instance, when you fought the Shadow Broker, it was explained how you beat him. Something similar should have happened this time around. Oh Shepard overload the do hicky to disable his biotic shield. Make it happen, show it in a cut scene and then cut to him on the gground and it plays out like normal.

:lol:

In the first encounter, he ran like a little girl, rode transports like an illogical moron and vanished

In the second encounter, he had to suck his thumb in the corner to recharge after a few bursts while a gunship did all the heavy lifting. When he had nowhere to run and didn't have air support, he was obliterated. He was a plot armored mook.

[RavenEyry]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

It's just odd that people ****ing about his repetitive combat dialogue means cut him out completely, except for references to him being the oldest reaper and possibly their leader.

[plfranke]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.

Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

They could have easily downgraded his role without playing him up like they did. I mean come on they were clearly teasing some sort of big moment involving Harbinger.

The Reaper on Rannoch - Harbinger speaks of you
Anderson - Several Sovereign class Reapers, including Harbinger are breaking off from the battle with sword
Shepard - Harbinger? *looks directly at the player*
Leviathan - First Reaper, you call it Harbinger + every Reaper is made in Harbinger's image

That's not the way you downgrade someone. You downgrade someone by saying "Well we haven't heard from Harbinger again after you thwarted the Collectors". Not, "He's the first and most powerful Reaper and he's heading to the final battle right now"

[Big_Boss9]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.

Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

Overinflate his importance? How do you do that to the main antagonist of the entire series? There is absolutely no excuse for him not saying a word in ME3. Could you imagine if TIM didn't talk? Or Shepard? Shepard is the protagonist. It would be almost as stupid as the antagonist being ignored. Anyway, goodnight.

ME1 elevator theme FTW!

The Reapers as a whole are the main antagonist of the entire series. I'm not saying I agree with Bioware's creative decision to pull back from an individual Reaper confrontation, but that's what they did. And, again, with or without Harbinger's direct involvement, IT can function.

[Rob Psyence]

*Harbinger nonchalantly flies off* YOU'RE DONE, FOO

[plfranke]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

What happened with Kai Leng was not plot armor. He simply beat Shepard. For instance, when you fought the Shadow Broker, it was explained how you beat him. Something similar should have happened this time around. Oh Shepard overload the do hicky to disable his biotic shield. Make it happen, show it in a cut scene and then cut to him on the gground and it plays out like normal.

:lol:

In the first encounter, he ran like a little girl, rode transports like an illogical moron and vanished

In the second encounter, he had to suck his thumb in the corner to recharge after a few bursts while a gunship did all the heavy lifting. When he had nowhere to run and didn't have air support, he was obliterated. He was a plot armored mook.

Actually in the first encounter he defeated Thane 1v1, jumped onto a flying car, blocked your bullets with his mind, and jammed his sword down your roof sabotaging your plan. Then he was able to elude all of C-Sec. Second encounter he takes out your entire squad. I'm cutting this off because you guys have just gave me a potentially great idea and I need time to post it.

[Big_Boss9]

plfranke wrote...

Actually in the first encounter he defeated Thane 1v1, jumped onto a flying car, blocked your bullets with his mind, and jammed his sword down your roof sabotaging your plan. Then he was able to elude all of C-Sec. Second encounter he takes out your entire squad. I'm cutting this off because you guys have just gave me a potentially great idea and I need time to post it.

On the Citadel, all Shep had to do was invert the car. Dead. Plot armored.

And no, he didn't take out your entire squad on Thessia. The gunship does. Go back and watch/play it again.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 22 septembre 2012 - 07:28 .

[Rob Psyence]

magnetite wrote...

At this point, I think they should just do an outright giveaway. I mean nothing huge like "IT is true" but something that for the IT crowd would be 100% proof. Because, no matter what people who don't believe IT will not come to terms with the evidence. So it's not like it would be a give away to them. Some people even refuse to see the similarities between the Leviathan sequence and the decision chamber. There was even one guy who I remember who was once an IT believer that was in here arguing that  what Leviathan did is not indoctrination, but was assuming direct control and therefore cannot be used as evidence for anything related to indoctrination *facepalm*

I don't know, they'd need a pretty big DLC in order to confirm every single detail and piece of evidenceof IT. Either way, some people are so dependant on Bioware to weave the story for them, that they won't see it any other way than what Bioware says. I call that a real-life indoctrination.

Those are the same people that totally overlook the fact that Indoctrination is a big theme throughout the whole series.

[Big_Boss9]

magnetite wrote...

At this point, I think they should just do an outright giveaway. I mean nothing huge like "IT is true" but something that for the IT crowd would be 100% proof. Because, no matter what people who don't believe IT will not come to terms with the evidence. So it's not like it would be a give away to them. Some people even refuse to see the similarities between the Leviathan sequence and the decision chamber. There was even one guy who I remember who was once an IT believer that was in here arguing that  what Leviathan did is not indoctrination, but was assuming direct control and therefore cannot be used as evidence for anything related to indoctrination *facepalm*

I don't know, they'd need a pretty big DLC in order to confirm every single detail and piece of evidenceof IT. Either way, some people are so dependant on Bioware to weave the story for them, that they won't see it any other way than what Bioware says. I call that a real-life indoctrination.

Part of me likes the Total Recall "that's all she wrote" of it all, but going forward with more games, something has to give.