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[plfranke]

The entire Cerberus Base mission is really odd come to think of it. I mean, why was Cerberus trying to stall Shepard? Illusive Man was clearly already on the Citadel so they had nothing to gain by trying to keep you away from the main room. I think there's almost like a secret code there is to crack. For instance, TIM's line "I'm done helping you". What had he done to help us after Mass Effect 2, and why did he allow us to speak to the VI at all? He could have easily just deleted him from the network and we would have been screwed. Something is definitely up.

[Rob Psyence]

You also have to take into consideration that the Salarian councilor was standing between the fight and shepard and the others, which might explain why there wasn't any shooting.

[plfranke]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

plfranke wrote...

In a world of shields that deflect bullets and mental control over gravity I don't think getting into close quarters combat with a sword that can tear through space cars is too out of the question.

I vehemetly agree!! In fact my first intorduction to Sci-Fi Shields was through Frank Herbert's Dune. A lasgun on a shield would create a near nuclear explosion. The slow moving object penetrated the shield- thus inevitable melee with a shielded opponent.

But none of your squadmates are hand to hand specialists (at least not on Kai Leng's level and yes supposition) Thane's fight with Leng is not recreatable with Vega or EDI...

I don't know, I would have enjoyed watching a James Vega V. Kai Leng. It could have played out just like the fight you have with him at the beginning of the game.

[plfranke]

Rob Psyence wrote...

You also have to take into consideration that the Salarian councilor was standing between the fight and shepard and the others, which might explain why there wasn't any shooting.

What about after Kai Leng has already shot the Councilor? Have you watched the scene where the assasination is a success?

[Rob Psyence]

plfranke wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

plfranke wrote...

In a world of shields that deflect bullets and mental control over gravity I don't think getting into close quarters combat with a sword that can tear through space cars is too out of the question.

I vehemetly agree!! In fact my first intorduction to Sci-Fi Shields was through Frank Herbert's Dune. A lasgun on a shield would create a near nuclear explosion. The slow moving object penetrated the shield- thus inevitable melee with a shielded opponent.

But none of your squadmates are hand to hand specialists (at least not on Kai Leng's level and yes supposition) Thane's fight with Leng is not recreatable with Vega or EDI...

I don't know, I would have enjoyed watching a James Vega V. Kai Leng. It could have played out just like the fight you have with him at the beginning of the game.

Realistically speaking Vega's muscle mass would be a hinderance in a fight against someone using Kai Leng's fighting style, when all he knows is probably only a little marine kenpo.

[plfranke]

Rob Psyence wrote...

plfranke wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

plfranke wrote...

In a world of shields that deflect bullets and mental control over gravity I don't think getting into close quarters combat with a sword that can tear through space cars is too out of the question.

I vehemetly agree!! In fact my first intorduction to Sci-Fi Shields was through Frank Herbert's Dune. A lasgun on a shield would create a near nuclear explosion. The slow moving object penetrated the shield- thus inevitable melee with a shielded opponent.

But none of your squadmates are hand to hand specialists (at least not on Kai Leng's level and yes supposition) Thane's fight with Leng is not recreatable with Vega or EDI...

I don't know, I would have enjoyed watching a James Vega V. Kai Leng. It could have played out just like the fight you have with him at the beginning of the game.

Realistically speaking Vega's muscle mass would be a hinderance in a fight against someone using Kai Leng's fighting style, when all he knows is probably only a little marine kenpo.

It was a joke.

[Big_Boss9]

RavenEyry wrote...

Funny that all the oddest conversations are only witnessed by Shep. Such as Tali wandering off before the rannoch reaper speaks.

Never gets old.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 22 septembre 2012 - 08:21 .

[Rob Psyence]

plfranke wrote...

Rob Psyence wrote...

You also have to take into consideration that the Salarian councilor was standing between the fight and shepard and the others, which might explain why there wasn't any shooting.

What about after Kai Leng has already shot the Councilor? Have you watched the scene where the assasination is a success?

I've played both, but its been awhile since my first playthrough. He doesn't really stick around as long in that version anyway does he?

EDIT: I know you were joking btw

Modifié par Rob Psyence, 22 septembre 2012 - 08:21 .

[plfranke]

Rob Psyence wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rob Psyence wrote...

You also have to take into consideration that the Salarian councilor was standing between the fight and shepard and the others, which might explain why there wasn't any shooting.

What about after Kai Leng has already shot the Councilor? Have you watched the scene where the assasination is a success?

I've played both, but its been awhile since my first playthrough. He doesn't really stick around as long in that version anyway does he?

Well basically he shoots the councilor and then Shepard says "You're going to pay for that" and starts firing, but your squadmates literally do nothing. They stand and watch. You run after Kai Leng and keep firing, and he gets away. After he gets away your squad runs up behind you.

[Rob Psyence]

plfranke wrote...

Rob Psyence wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rob Psyence wrote...

You also have to take into consideration that the Salarian councilor was standing between the fight and shepard and the others, which might explain why there wasn't any shooting.

What about after Kai Leng has already shot the Councilor? Have you watched the scene where the assasination is a success?

I've played both, but its been awhile since my first playthrough. He doesn't really stick around as long in that version anyway does he?

Well basically he shoots the councilor and then Shepard says "You're going to pay for that" and starts firing, but your squadmates literally do nothing. They stand and watch. You run after Kai Leng and keep firing, and he gets away. After he gets away your squad runs up behind you.

I didn't really pay much attention to them, its pretty odd lol its funny to think if it was just a delusion, they'd be "what the hell is shepard shooting at?" 

[jojon2se]

plfranke wrote...
...
About Anderson, you never tell him anything about Leng though.
...

Heh, somehow I find myself chuckling over the idea of Anderson's ears pricking up and him probing for substantiating info, during that conversation:

-Sir, there was this assassin...
-!... Short silly-looking guy?
-Err... yes..?
-Pony tail? Dumb **** in front of his eyes? Lugs around a piece of  flat iron?
-...
-Kai Leeeeeeng.

:-9


The guy did actually have a bit of my respect for a few seconds, when you first encounter him and he carefully steps around to make sure he has the Salarian councillor between himself and you at all times (even though he exposed himself at all, as opposed to sniping from the shadows). After that moment it all falls apart -- maybe the scene had been easier to make credible, if Shepard had become separated from the rest of the squad first.

[plfranke]

jojon2se wrote...

plfranke wrote...
...
About Anderson, you never tell him anything about Leng though.
...

Heh, somehow I find myself chuckling over the idea of Anderson's ears pricking up and him probing for substantiating info, during that conversation:

-Sir, there was this assassin...
-!... Short silly-looking guy?
-Err... yes..?
-Pony tail? Dumb **** in front of his eyes? Lugs around a piece of  flat iron?
-...
-Kai Leeeeeeng.

:-9


The guy did actually have a bit of my respect for a few seconds, when you first encounter him and he carefully steps around to make sure he has the Salarian councillor between himself and you at all times (even though he exposed himself at all, as opposed to sniping from the shadows). After that moment it all falls apart -- maybe the scene had been easier to make credible, if Shepard had become separated from the rest of the squad first.

I get what you're saying, but surely you realize that as is it's terrible. There was this one guy there "Kai Leng! I'll get you all the info you need on him. Good thing I keep his dossier lying around the foxholes for emergencies"

[jojon2se]

@plfranke:

Not questioning or determining either way -- I just thought what I wrote was an amusing way to conduct the scene, with the way it has Anderson breaking both the suspenseful flow and his own grim demeanor. :7

Modifié par jojon2se, 22 septembre 2012 - 09:40 .

[BleedingUranium]

plfranke wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

plfranke wrote...
...
About Anderson, you never tell him anything about Leng though.
...

Heh, somehow I find myself chuckling over the idea of Anderson's ears pricking up and him probing for substantiating info, during that conversation:

-Sir, there was this assassin...
-!... Short silly-looking guy?
-Err... yes..?
-Pony tail? Dumb **** in front of his eyes? Lugs around a piece of  flat iron?
-...
-Kai Leeeeeeng.

:-9


The guy did actually have a bit of my respect for a few seconds, when you first encounter him and he carefully steps around to make sure he has the Salarian councillor between himself and you at all times (even though he exposed himself at all, as opposed to sniping from the shadows). After that moment it all falls apart -- maybe the scene had been easier to make credible, if Shepard had become separated from the rest of the squad first.

I get what you're saying, but surely you realize that as is it's terrible. There was this one guy there "Kai Leng! I'll get you all the info you need on him. Good thing I keep his dossier lying around the foxholes for emergencies"

Hahahaha

Big_Boss9 wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Funny that all the oddest conversations are only witnessed by Shep. Such as Tali wandering off before the rannoch reaper speaks.

Never gets old.

This one's my absolute favourite! Probably because it's nearly the same as the real conversation

[paxxton]

Shepard talks to Anderson about Kai Leng during a conversation via the vidcomm. I think it's after the coup.

Today is the day we rach page 1000. Only if the thread moves faster though.

Modifié par paxxton, 22 septembre 2012 - 11:17 .

[Restrider]

paxxton wrote...

Shepard talks to Anderson about Kai Leng during a conversation via the vidcomm. I think it's after the coup.

Today is the day we rach page 1000. Only if the thread moves faster though.

Great, you killed it!

On another topic:
I was just watching ME space battles and one thing came to my mind. Before ME 3 was released, we were all wondering how our decisions might impact on the storyline, especially the Council decision and Collector Base decision.
I know, it kind of does not really matter today, but I think that saving the Council was not the optimal solution and here is why:
If you let the Council die, the Council fleets will have certain losses while the human fleet is stronger than ever. Furthermore, in a ME 2 news comment, the turian hierarchy sees no obligation in keeping the Treaty of Farixen. Thus they are starting to produce bigger amounts of dreadnoughts than usual, since the political situation kind of foreshadows a conflict between the turians (maybe combined with the asari and salarians) and the uprising humans. All in all, you would have some kind of arms race that would be beneficial in defending against the reapers.

Off topic part 2:
What is the default situation, if you do not import a character to ME2? I know that the Council is dead, as is the rachni queen and Wrex, but has the Council been replaced by an all-human Council?

Edit:
Has someone a plan to do an IT MP group to beat the challange today? If so, notify me.

Modifié par Restrider, 22 septembre 2012 - 12:23 .

[Rifneno]

Except if Leng is a hallucination, who kills Thane/Kirrahe/councilor? Somebody's dead after that and I really doubt that if Shepard did it no one would've brought it up.

[Rifneno]

Restrider wrote...

Edit:
Has someone a plan to do an IT MP group to beat the challange today? If so, notify me.

If anyone needs help with it on PC, my origin is my sig.

[paxxton]

Restrider wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Shepard talks to Anderson about Kai Leng during a conversation via the vidcomm. I think it's after the coup.

Today is the day we rach page 1000. Only if the thread moves faster though.

Great, you killed it!

On another topic:
I was just watching ME space battles and one thing came to my mind. Before ME 3 was released, we were all wondering how our decisions might impact on the storyline, especially the Council decision and Collector Base decision.
I know, it kind of does not really matter today, but I think that saving the Council was not the optimal solution and here is why:
If you let the Council die, the Council fleets will have certain losses while the human fleet is stronger than ever. Furthermore, in a ME 2 news comment, the turian hierarchy sees no obligation in keeping the Treaty of Farixen. Thus they are starting to produce bigger amounts of dreadnoughts than usual, since the political situation kind of foreshadows a conflict between the turians (maybe combined with the asari and salarians) and the uprising humans. All in all, you would have some kind of arms race that would be beneficial in defending against the reapers.

Off topic part 2:
What is the default situation, if you do not import a character to ME2? I know that the Council is dead, as is the rachni queen and Wrex, but has the Council been replaced by an all-human Council?

Edit:
Has someone a plan to do an IT MP group to beat the challange today? If so, notify me.

The Council is replaced by a new one comprised of individuals from all the 3 Council races and a human. You get to choose whether it's Anderson or Udina at the beginning of ME2. Before you meet TIM Miranda asks you a few questions to check up on your memory.

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

[Restrider]

paxxton wrote...
The Council is replaced by a new one comprised of individuals from all the 3 Council races and a human. You get to choose whether it's Anderson or Udina at the beginning of ME2. Before you meet TIM Miranda asks you a few questions to check up on your memory.

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

So, if I end ME 1 with this:
www.youtube.com/watch
it won't be like the default no-import ME 2 run?
I do not expect to see some kind of racist, human dictatorship with Udina at its top, though I'd like to see it.

[Restrider]

At this pace, the 1000 will not be breached today or any time soon.

[RavenEyry]

paxxton wrote...

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

They seemed like the reverse to me. The asari was a jerk and the turian was quite nice. The salarian was the same but  with a different voice.

[paxxton]

Restrider wrote...

paxxton wrote...
The Council is replaced by a new one comprised of individuals from all the 3 Council races and a human. You get to choose whether it's Anderson or Udina at the beginning of ME2. Before you meet TIM Miranda asks you a few questions to check up on your memory.

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

So, if I end ME 1 with this:
www.youtube.com/watch
it won't be like the default no-import ME 2 run?
I do not expect to see some kind of racist, human dictatorship with Udina at its top, though I'd like to see it.

I've never got to the point where Udina and Shepard were agreeing on almost everything. Anderson's reaction was one of sincere horror when Shepard said it wasn't such a big deal for her to get rid of the Council. Anyway, I'm not sure. Never saw an all-human Council in ME2.

[Restrider]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

They seemed like the reverse to me. The asari was a jerk and the turian was quite nice. The salarian was the same but  with a different voice.

That actually applies to the old Council aswell.
In ME 1/2 my preferences regarding the councilors were:  Valern>Tevos>>Sparatus
In ME 3 though that changed due to the reasons I will mention later: Sparatus>Valern>Tevos
1) At the beginning, Sparatus is the only of the councilors that is not totally shocked and he even gives you the necessary intel to get the turians on Shep's side, while Valern kind of panics and Tevos kind of abandons you.
2) Valern's comments on your actions (ie genophage) are kind of ambiguous, but you can interpret them positively. Furthermore his part during the coup, gives him some points in my book.
3) Tevos not taking part during the meeting of the krogan's, turian's and salarian's was just... stupid. I hoped for some kind of galactic meeting of importance, and that is kind of what I got, but without the asari on board, it is not complete. Furthermore since the asari try to solve conflicts with diplomacy, I kind of felt that it was paradoxically by them not to take part at such an important summit. This even leads to the absence of the asari on the battlefield during the first half of the reaper war.
4) Tevos being nothing more than Aria's puppet did not increase my respect for the asari councilor.
5) The prothean beacon on Thessia. This may not be Tevos' fault, but it decreases my respect for the Asari Republics in general.

Well, you can guess that I felt kind of betrayed by Tevos.

Modifié par Restrider, 22 septembre 2012 - 02:22 .

[paxxton]

RavenEyry wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That political plan for the arms race is devious but might end up an effective scheme to prepare the Galaxy for the Reaper invasion. Too bad the original Council is so much better than the new one.

They seemed like the reverse to me. The asari was a jerk and the turian was quite nice. The salarian was the same but  with a different voice.

The new Council seems too douchebaggy for the rulers of the Galaxy.