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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

I think you guys missed the point I was trying to make.

The person who I was speaking to's entire reason and argument for choosing Synthesis was "because it had a happy ending".

He was basing his choice on WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. Basically he was saying that his Shepard was clairvoyant, and could see the future, so based their decision accordingly. That was the only argument he could give.

I shake my head sometimes, I really do.

I don't understand that argument, it makes no sense. Fitting for someone who likes synthesis I suppose. Edit: top two in a row. That's what I like to see!

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I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.

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401 Kill wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

I think you guys missed the point I was trying to make.

The person who I was speaking to's entire reason and argument for choosing Synthesis was "because it had a happy ending".

He was basing his choice on WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. Basically he was saying that his Shepard was clairvoyant, and could see the future, so based their decision accordingly. That was the only argument he could give.

I shake my head sometimes, I really do.

I don't understand that argument, it makes no sense. Fitting for someone who likes synthesis I suppose. Edit: top two in a row. That's what I like to see!


Since the ending of ME3 are the reapers the good guys, Shepard become the prophet or the harbinger and Catalyst of their upliftinting intentions... It´s the best explanation which you can get from Pro-enders :wizard: and also space magic:wizard:

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.

 

So the illusive man was right after all ?
Yes but he coulnd´t take control over us, we already controlled him.

Wait a second, if you were whole time controlling TIM than who was controlling me just few minutes ago when I was speaking with TIM ?

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

I think you guys missed the point I was trying to make.

The person who I was speaking to's entire reason and argument for choosing Synthesis was "because it had a happy ending".

He was basing his choice on WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. Basically he was saying that his Shepard was clairvoyant, and could see the future, so based their decision accordingly. That was the only argument he could give.

I shake my head sometimes, I really do.

Yeah that's a good point. The decisions are largely based on uncertainties. But how exactly does Shepard know how to do everything? I mean, how does she know to grab the 2 bottom handles and be electrocuted in control? Oh, that's right, she had a vision of it. How does she know to shoot the tube to destroy the reapers? A vision, and the fact that that's exactly how she killed a reaper before. I'm not even going to guess about how Shepard knew to run off the cliff in synthesis. Oops that's not actually how you do that. Too late. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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"What is my biding my master?"

So what have I misses d?

Hi. This http://blog.bioware....zeschuk-retire/ and a few speculations on possible continuations to ME3.


Is Bioware dispanding, or are we just going crazy?

Yet unknown. I'm curious to see where this is going. Anyway, they confirmed to be working on ME3 DLC, ME full game and a completely new franchise by the ME team.


You think it could be a cover up, or do you think they are trying to go rogue, and break away from EA?

It's strange they decided to leave right now when BioWare seems to be in a downfall. Even stranger that they decided to do it at the same time.


And what other Bioware people have left, and maybe we should try to connect the people that are/ retired from Bioware that were working on ME, or ME2 that left.

Patrick Weekes moved to the DA team. But it's too early to draw any conclusion about all those maneuvers.


What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.

That, and Shepard just convinced TIM that he was wrong about controling them and about how it's also too big of a risk (a massive accomplishment) ot the point of killing himself literally 5  minutes earlier. Posted Image

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.


Oooh! Oooh! But we got a slideshow!

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It's also awesome that at face value-you can't lose! Just varying degrees of winning!

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TSA_383 wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.


Oooh! Oooh! But we got a slideshow!


My piece of cake...

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I've been saying for ages that most reasons for blue/green are metagaming ones so I wouldn't go for them even if I thought the cut scenes were better. (Not to steal your thunder or anything gecko, just retroactively agreeing with you)

Now it is time to watch brand new Doctor Who! Muhahahahaha! *vanishes in a puff of smoke*

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I'd argue that control supporters are even dumber. You have no reason to believe you can do it other than the reapers themselves telling you that you can.

Seems Legit.

This, two of the endings require you to trust the kid. (Your belief is not required) And Destroy is what Shepard has been going for for 3 games and every other non-indoctrinated charecter.

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" What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?"

Oh god no

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spotlessvoid wrote...

It's also awesome that at face value-you can't lose! Just varying degrees of winning!

Yeah, before the EC it was:
"Pick the colour of your genocide!" (The quarians dying and everything.)

After EC it's:
"Pick the colour of your victory!"

Who the hell makes different endings the same minus colours? That looks so cheesy it's not even funny; it's stupid.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

" What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?"

Oh god no

Oh god! That's why they have the dragon blood armour in Mass Effect! Quick, run for the hills lads!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

It's also awesome that at face value-you can't lose! Just varying degrees of winning!

Yeah, before the EC it was:
"Pick the colour of your genocide!" (The quarians dying and everything.)

After EC it's:
"Pick the colour of your victory!"

Who the hell makes different endings the same minus colours? That looks so cheesy it's not even funny; it's stupid.


The same people who said no abc ending! Which is technically true
It was ABC and D:None of the above

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spotlessvoid wrote...

" What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?"

Oh god no


Element Zero = Lyrium?

Biotics = Mages?

Reaper Ground Forces = Darkspawn?

That doesn't sound like a complete disaster at all. Posted Image [/sarcasm]

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spotlessvoid wrote...

" What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?"

Oh god no


Last 5 minutes of DA3...

Protagonist have entered into the cave, on the end of cave is staying Sandal with 3 big crystals standing behind him:

Enchancment ?

Do you know how can I stop everyone from killing each other ?

CRYSTALS ! SHINNIES ! YO NED PIK!

And which is the right one, sandal ?!


RED WILL DESTROY THE MAGIC AND DARKSPAWNS!

GREEN WILL MERGE EVERYONE TO UBER DARSPAWN-MAGIC-TEMPLAR-BEINGS AND EVERYONE WILL BE SAME, BUT YOU WILL DIE!

BLUE WILL CHANGE TEMPLARS, MAGES AND DARSPAWNS INTO ONE BIG POLICE AND YOU´LL BE CONTROLING THEM, EVEN IF YOU DIE !

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

It's also awesome that at face value-you can't lose! Just varying degrees of winning!

Yeah, before the EC it was:
"Pick the colour of your genocide!" (The quarians dying and everything.)

After EC it's:
"Pick the colour of your victory!"

Who the hell makes different endings the same minus colours? That looks so cheesy it's not even funny; it's stupid.

+1, +2, and +3

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401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

" What are they planing? Dragon age meets Mass Effect?"

Oh god no

Oh god! That's why they have the dragon blood armour in Mass Effect! Quick, run for the hills lads!

Dragon Mass Age Effect

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Kai Leng was a mook. He was bailed out/plot armored twice. When he was finally backed into a corner, he was destroyed. I had no issue with that. I don't think Leng had anything to with Harbinger's reduced role. Community complaints/creative team dissatisfaction/Starbrat did.

The only excuse for the lack of Harbinger is IT.


Not really. I think we overinflate his importance. The amount of ****ing about him on the forums during ME2 was enormous. And, as I said before, I had heard rumors (albeit unsubstantiated) that the writing team was not pleased with how he panned out and thus reduced his role. IT can still exist without Harbinger having a larger purpose.

They could have easily downgraded his role without playing him up like they did. I mean come on they were clearly teasing some sort of big moment involving Harbinger.

The Reaper on Rannoch - Harbinger speaks of you
Anderson - Several Sovereign class Reapers, including Harbinger are breaking off from the battle with sword
Shepard - Harbinger? *looks directly at the player*
Leviathan - First Reaper, you call it Harbinger + every Reaper is made in Harbinger's image

That's not the way you downgrade someone. You downgrade someone by saying "Well we haven't heard from Harbinger again after you thwarted the Collectors". Not, "He's the first and most powerful Reaper and he's heading to the final battle right now"

Basically this. And they're making Harby more important with Leviathan. We've all heard about collectors in Omega, and it makes perfect sense. But remember what else that probably means?

Harbinger assuming direct control of them. I hope that's all true, because it could have many hints for IT, Harby would actually talk (yay!), it would be fun to fight, and overall just plain awesome. Posted Image

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The next dragon age is going to end with the protagonist stumbling across a Leviathan artifact. And that's how ME4 will start

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spotlessvoid wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

It's also awesome that at face value-you can't lose! Just varying degrees of winning!

Yeah, before the EC it was:
"Pick the colour of your genocide!" (The quarians dying and everything.)

After EC it's:
"Pick the colour of your victory!"

Who the hell makes different endings the same minus colours? That looks so cheesy it's not even funny; it's stupid.


The same people who said no abc ending! Which is technically true
It was ABC and D:None of the above

Wrong actually. They didn't plan refuse as a choice, so it was A, B, or C. What I'm wondering is why they would say that specifically, without promp and so close to release, just to have that happen. Are they masochistic or something? Nothing good could come out of lying... unless IT! Posted Image

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I see this thread has turned into yet another topic on which ending is the bestest.

mmkay...

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I see this thread has turned into yet another topic on which ending is the bestest.

mmkay...

I see that either you're blind or stupid.

Mmkay?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I see this thread has turned into yet another topic on which ending is the bestest.

mmkay...

I see that either you're blind or stupid.

Mmkay?

He never asked for this!