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[ABjerre]

scoopapa1 wrote...
Balance would mean there are multiple strategic options that are equally viable.  It is an ideal which can only be approximated in practice, but so is basically everything else in the world, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to get close. It may be too much to ask for every class to be just as strong with the proper strategy, but we should expect it to be close, and we shouldn't resist changes that make it closer.  Making a certain strategy much better than others to the point where anyone who is earnestly trying to win would never choose anything else is imbalance.  You basically defeat the purpose of having anything else there unless you are intentionally gimping yourself or don't care about winning.  Notice I didn't say "all guns equally powerful".  I'm talking about "strategies" because you have to take a class, gun, build, mods, and equipment all together when considering the power of a player, and that doens't even account for teams.  The Piranha is what breaks some strategies; this doesn't mean it breaks every combination of class, biuld, mod, equipment, and team, but it does mean it is broken.  

The fact that the Piranha is the most viable gun on just about any class that can go close range is a smaller, but similar problem.  It starts to blur the line between different class strategies as they all become "kill stuff with the piranha and AP ammo with some support abilities on the side".

I'm not going to discect your entire post again, as everything you ask for has already been answered in the thread already.

To your idea of balance being that there are several viable strategies, classes and weapons, i hope that it contributes, that so far i (and i am by no means an exceptional player) have been able to outperform every class with every other class. That sounds a lot like the balance you are striving for.

[Yosuke]

Having only one drawback, especially when that drawback is range, does not make a weapon balanced. That is the core of OP's argument, and I don't know why so many people are willing to accept that statement as-is, except that they're willing to accept any reasoning* which serves their purposes.

Most of the encounters in this game are close-medium range, and this huge range "drawback" can be easily negated by (wonder of wonders) running closer to an enemy. Furthermore, almost all classes which cannot be configured easily as a cqc class rely on power combos at distance, making the piranha still an excellent choice for sticky cqc situations, even for power spammers, due to its light weight.

I don't think the piranha needs to be hammered down like the krysae, as it still requires you to do some aiming. I do think it needs to be toned down a little.

Modifié par Yosuke, 04 août 2012 - 08:58 .