The Twilight God wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
their actions may be construed as evil, but they are not, as simple machines, they lack the sapience to construct a right from wrong programming protocol. If they did, they'd give up on the cycle independently, without extra user interfacing... Even lowly geth Legion could tell right from wrong when he defende that geth in the fields from it's quarian master creator... Cannot fit that into the IT very easily..or at all.
Rather they are simple machines is up for debate. You obviously believe whatever the StarChild tells you. Obviously, I don't. I think his whole story was a lie. It think it was just Harbinger trying to taslk his way out of destruction.
Here's something else Legion says about the Reapers: Dumb machines?
ok, I'll bite, only because I'm a hopeless sci fi nut without a normal syntho-organic construct to tell me not to..lol
I remembered that conversation with Legion. I got the impression that Legion was only trying to describe his version of what the Geth percieved the Reaper mentality was, from his presective. Just like he would try and describe his creators, with typical 'geth' identity issues.(like when he couldn't 'find' the reason he wore a chunk of hero worship/fanboy memoribilia...didn't computer
That being said, the description of the reaper core logic center consisting of massive organic "minds" wrought from harvest. I still hold that the reapers are 'advanced' in the sense that they've absorbed mucho data from all those mindes, reflected as 'a nation', because that's the best organic reference for it (community=geth collective) But the inability of those "organic" minds(data only) to feel emotion, there is no reference to emotions,as these require the proper assembly of relevant parts of the whole, to get the necessary impulses that generate given emotion. So,eventhough partly organic, the reaper physiology omits these,and their 'instant' evolution cuts clean that learning processes necessary to taylor such survival instincts implementing the "organic condition". Reapers only use the minds as data centers, not existing as a given organic race. Their programming insist that they harvest to protect organic life, not live among them as a 'nation' of , say people. The reference is only a catalog entry to them, it's what makes them so friggen alien. More like insane, but as machines that isn't possible.
Shepard, just a rowdy grunt on a mission from who knows, sees that this concept is not 'organic', but machinelike and without our individuality, we'd be 'just like machines'. I head canon that this is the flaw in the Reaper mind, as they are organic only in that their construction is wrought from organic downloaded knowledge only, but purely synthetic in function. They are programmed, they think like a machine with gobs of organic data(DNA included,but not pertainant here). There are no hopes dreams imagination that produces intuition. Programmed reapers cannot dream, guess,have a hunch, feel good about stuff or even take a healthy ******.. poor things. The only thing going "for" them is that they're way too powerful, and with the blocking of emotion from their collected organic "minds" leaves them just mechanicals with synthetic-organic identity issues.
Now on that IT issue, I figured out why the idea of it is so attractive..heheh.. it kind of meshes with my theory that the entire fiasco facing the MEU is underpinned by the suspicion that something is amiss with the communication and understandings between Shepard and the Reapers. It all lies in the face of the fact that Shep cannot be in two places at once, and isn't capable of the things he gets away with in the MEU, unassisted. That is, hes is either "with us or against us". What the IT folks miss, is that he isn't the only ones fighting the reapers, besides the "known" MEU folks.
Leads them to believe that the whole thing is just a ruse to get everyone 'salvaged', er..harvested.
Here is a question I asked myself, don't know if it's just a hunch, or massively superior intuition.
Who else would want the reapers 'out of the picture' besides Shepard and all related to him?
People or Machines, that could possible be powerful enough to assist him without being seen, able to utilize advanced reaper technology,communicate with Shepard, via indoctrination or stronger communication techniques,(like in dreams,etc) ?
Hidden in a place that's inaccessable, yet able to reach out and touch some one at any time, even permit miricles of resurrection, Bringing Shepard back to life, something not listed in ANY codex that I could find...(whoa!!)
Could give the folks of the MEU the ability, knowledge, skil set to find, assemble, program and power up a tool, appealing to lesser races as a weapon, the crucible, and desperate enough to even turn them loose with it, having to absolutely KNOW they're incapable of understanding or properly utilizing it for its intended purpose?
These entities are listed in the codex and are an integral part of the ME society, probably one of the most powerful and potent 'shapers' of the entire Mass Effect Universe..but.. we never actually get to see them.. in person, so we don't "get" to know them, or much about them..we only know that they were harvested a long time ago.
Just say'n
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