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[MacNasty]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

It takes reapers 50000 years to replace 1 or 2 of their losses. It would only take us a year to crank out several more dreadnoughts. Plus using massive numbers to take out small reaper fleets will work. They have set themselves up for a Divide and Conquer.

Really? Only take a year to crank out "several" more dreadnoughts? after ME1, the Alliance Navy started construction on three new dreadnoughts. By the time ME3 started, one had been completed.

That was in peacetime. 

Refuse is stupid. Accept it.

"That was in peacetime."

Exactly. Its now wartime. You have the combined efforts of Quarians, Geth, Humans, Turians, Salarians and Krogan.
A total war effort.

Defeat is stupid. Accept it.

He has a point. Look at WW2. That took the US out of the depression, drastically increased the rates of production. When people are in true danger, production increases. So it's actualy a good thing it's in wartime, not to mention with the combined forces of the galaxy.

I must have missed the part in WW2 where the Japanese landed in the continental United States after obliterating almost our entire military force, scattering the few surviving warships and wiping out billions of people, destroying our entire infrastructure in the process.

Stupid outdated textbooks, I guess.

(p.s. in this metaphor, the Japanese and Germans would have had to have done the same thing to England and Russia as well)

You seem to be under the impression that all of our ships are scattered, everything is gone, hope is lost, and every single planet is under attack by the Reapers. Not to mention the fact, that if we use certain areas fo space, we can create and manufacture parts, equipment and likely ships there. Perhaps make stations solely for that purpose, keep their locations top secret, devise a way of sending resources that can keep the locations out of the Reapers knowledge, maybe even move them if possible or necessary.

[RoboticWays]

But yeah, conventional victory against reapers would be like the US getting in a war with China, China outnumbers us like 10 to 1, not to mention the reapers have superior tech. It could not be done. A third of the alliance fleet was wiped out protecting the council from ONE reaper with a geth fleet.

[RoboticWays]

If the council believed shep and prepared for a full scale galactic war, as well as researching armor to match up against reaper weapons (could test it with the thanix) then a conventional win would be possible. But not when taken by surprise, i dont give a damn how many ships you try to build, its too late.

[The Spamming Troll]

RoboticWays wrote...

But yeah, conventional victory against reapers would be like the US getting in a war with China, China outnumbers us like 10 to 1, not to mention the reapers have superior tech. It could not be done. A third of the alliance fleet was wiped out protecting the council from ONE reaper with a geth fleet.

who doesnt love an underdog story?

instead, youd rather play ME3???

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 07 août 2012 - 12:30 .

[MacNasty]

RoboticWays wrote...

But yeah, conventional victory against reapers would be like the US getting in a war with China, China outnumbers us like 10 to 1, not to mention the reapers have superior tech. It could not be done. A third of the alliance fleet was wiped out protecting the council from ONE reaper with a geth fleet.

Numbers don't mean everything! Why does no one realize that... And the Reaper really did nothing in that fight, it was mostly that giant geth fleet. 

For the US vs China, you forget the US superior experience, and technology. Their numbers won't mean too much, for one well trained man is worth 10. Also, the Chinese population isn't all in their army... There's so much more I can say, but ranting about something unrelated to the topic is not something I feel like doing right now...

[Rip504]

MacNasty wrote...



It seems you got offended...

I will no longer speak with you. Why read the rest? Explain to me why or how you have offended me? Or is that a cheap trick? Bait if you will. Believe me. You in no way can or have offended me. Please,you should not assume I think so highly of you. As I do not. Who are you? I have no idea,no need to speculate or be offended by someone,who could turn out to be anyone. As soon as I seen your"i do not mean to offend" that you would assume somehow magically you have offended me. Using the same logic for Conventional victory. That alone makes me think your entire point is pointless.


The loss of life. Address that. The rest of what you said is baseless speculation. We have lost billion,while adding to their threat. The longer the war last,so will the loss of life. The loss of life that directly contributes to their numbers. We lose and dwindle our numbers while strengthening theirs. We have had enough time in this war to at least realize this. I am not assuming anything. I have looked at it multiple ways. Saying "o we can do this" but not giving any specifics,or explaining how our enemy will react and counter,then our reaction to that counter,is an easy way to back your claim. Pointless.

4 dreadnoughts focused on one Reapers. Can still be destroyed by that Reaper. God Forbid another Reaper show up,or imagine that the Reapers actually have a military structure. Where a one on four scenario isn't likely to happen much. While using these hit and run tactics,who is to say the Reapers will not start laying traps,using mines,poisons,infections,etc etc etc. Leave speculation at the door. Use in game content. Anyone can counter speculate all day.

It is arrogant to stand back,take both sides of information and come to a conclusion? Enough to end the conversation alone. In game content. Not "but what ifs."

Do you,or did you believe that pinching Shepard would result in Conventional Victory?

Modifié par Rip504, 07 août 2012 - 12:44 .

[MacNasty]

Rip504 wrote...

MacNasty wrote...



It seems you got offended...

I will no longer speak with you. Why read the rest? Explain to me why or how you have offended me? Or is that a cheap trick? Bait if you will. Believe me. You in no way can or have offended me. Please,you should not assume I think so highly of you. As I do not. Who are you? I have no idea,no need to speculate or be offended by someone,who could turn out to be anyone. As soon as I seen your"i do not mean to offend" that you would assume somehow magically you have offended me. Using the same logic for Conventional victory. That alone makes me think your entire point is pointless.


The loss of life. Address that. The rest of what you said is baseless speculation. We have lost billion,while adding to their threat. The longer the war last,so will the loss of life. The loss of life that directly contributes to their numbers. We lose and dwindle our numbers while strengthening theirs. We have had enough time in this war to at least realize this. I am not assuming anything. I have looked at it multiple ways. Saying "o we can do this" but not giving any specifics,or explaining how our enemy will react and counter,then our reaction to that counter,is an easy way to back your claim. Pointless.

4 dreadnoughts focused on one Reapers. Can still be destroyed by that Reaper. God Forbid another Reaper show up,or imagine that the Reapers actually have a military structure. Where a one on four scenario isn't likely to happen much. While using these hit and run tactics,who is to say the Reapers will not start laying traps,using mines,poisons,infections,etc etc etc. Leave speculation at the door. Use in game content. Anyone can counter speculate all day.

It is arrogant to stand back,take both sides of information and come to a conclusion? Enough to end the conversation alone. In game content. Not "but what ifs."

The way you wrote that seemed like I had offended you, sorry for assuming such a thing, but I've gotten used to people getting offended easily over the internet. I didn't assume myself to be so great, though I don't see why people need to be such great people to cause offense, but nevermind. I apoligize. I had not intended to bait you in anyway, I have trouble speaking with people and things I see as offensive or not seems to be the other way around sometimes...

The loss of life, I admit is a problem. The current way I can see it is regulating not only breeding, but the use of troops. If the genophage is cured, that can really help in solving that problem, for a mass of Krogan ground troops can solve that. Perhaps I missed something, but i haven't seen a solely Krogan Reaper unit, though Brutes are combined Krogans and Turians. Perhaps they would find a way.

About the Reapers versus our ships. To solve that problem, it would be hard. Caution would always need to be taken. Yet over the war, perhaps other ships would be outfitted with enough power to take down Reapers in small groups. We only know that four dreadnoughts (presumeably armed with Thanix cannons) can take down a Reaper, but what of other ships? Could a group of frigates armed with Thanix take down a Reaper? I don't know, as that information has not been provided that I know of. So relying solely on the numbers of Dreadnoughts, we would likely lose, but with other numbers of fleets combined, other types of ships, possibilities could occur. With in game content, a lot of options are left unexplored, a lot of information required to formulate strategies and tactics left unsaid. 

You ask me to provide a direct counter for everything I say, then counter that again. I can't do that, not because I wouldn't know how I would counter it, but because I don't know how they would. I am not a Reaper, so I can't say how they would. What I might do could be entirely different from what they could.

But seeing as how you are done speaking with me... Goodbye.

[jeffyg93]

RoboticWays wrote...

But yeah, conventional victory against reapers would be like the US getting in a war with China, China outnumbers us like 10 to 1, not to mention the reapers have superior tech. It could not be done. A third of the alliance fleet was wiped out protecting the council from ONE reaper with a geth fleet.

That comparison isn't nearly to scale of the Reaper conflict.

[RoboticWays]

MacNasty wrote...

RoboticWays wrote...

But yeah, conventional victory against reapers would be like the US getting in a war with China, China outnumbers us like 10 to 1, not to mention the reapers have superior tech. It could not be done. A third of the alliance fleet was wiped out protecting the council from ONE reaper with a geth fleet.

Numbers don't mean everything! Why does no one realize that... And the Reaper really did nothing in that fight, it was mostly that giant geth fleet. 

For the US vs China, you forget the US superior experience, and technology. Their numbers won't mean too much, for one well trained man is worth 10. Also, the Chinese population isn't all in their army... There's so much more I can say, but ranting about something unrelated to the topic is not something I feel like doing right now...

Im saying, imagine china with the superiority in every aspect, as well as the numbers. 

[AlanC9]

MacNasty wrote...

About the Reapers versus our ships. To solve that problem, it would be hard. Caution would always need to be taken. Yet over the war, perhaps other ships would be outfitted with enough power to take down Reapers in small groups. We only know that four dreadnoughts (presumeably armed with Thanix cannons) can take down a Reaper, but what of other ships? Could a group of frigates armed with Thanix take down a Reaper? I don't know, as that information has not been provided that I know of. So relying solely on the numbers of Dreadnoughts, we would likely lose, but with other numbers of fleets combined, other types of ships, possibilities could occur. With in game content, a lot of options are left unexplored, a lot of information required to formulate strategies and tactics left unsaid. .

"Could occur." "Left unsaid." So if a bunch of factors we don't know break the way you want them to, the war might be winnable? While all the hard data points the other way.

What you seem to be presenting is a bunch of wishful thinking masquerading as an argument.

[D24O]

Does the 4 Dreadnought statistic refer to them using pre-Thanix guns, or Thanix cannons?

[MacNasty]

AlanC9 wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

About the Reapers versus our ships. To solve that problem, it would be hard. Caution would always need to be taken. Yet over the war, perhaps other ships would be outfitted with enough power to take down Reapers in small groups. We only know that four dreadnoughts (presumeably armed with Thanix cannons) can take down a Reaper, but what of other ships? Could a group of frigates armed with Thanix take down a Reaper? I don't know, as that information has not been provided that I know of. So relying solely on the numbers of Dreadnoughts, we would likely lose, but with other numbers of fleets combined, other types of ships, possibilities could occur. With in game content, a lot of options are left unexplored, a lot of information required to formulate strategies and tactics left unsaid. .

"Could occur." "Left unsaid." So if a bunch of factors we don't know break the way you want them to, the war might be winnable? While all the hard data points the other way.

What you seem to be presenting is a bunch of wishful thinking masquerading as an argument.

Well actually what I am saying for that point is that I don't have enough information to put forth an argument for that. Is it wishful thinking to wonder if a group of frigates armed with Thanix can take down a Sovereign class Reaper? I personally see a question... So for that point I can't make an argument for anything other than Dreadnoughts. If the information were available, then I could make a point, or admit that I was wrong.

[MacNasty]

D24O wrote...

Does the 4 Dreadnought statistic refer to them using pre-Thanix guns, or Thanix cannons?

I've been wondering the same thing.

[Rip504]

MacNasty wrote...
The way you wrote that seemed like I had offended you, sorry for assuming such a thing, but I've gotten used to people getting offended easily over the internet. I didn't assume myself to be so great, though I don't see why people need to be such great people to cause offense, but nevermind. I apoligize. I had not intended to bait you in anyway, I have trouble speaking with people and things I see as offensive or not seems to be the other way around sometimes...

The loss of life, I admit is a problem. The current way I can see it is regulating not only breeding, but the use of troops. If the genophage is cured, that can really help in solving that problem, for a mass of Krogan ground troops can solve that. Perhaps I missed something, but i haven't seen a solely Krogan Reaper unit, though Brutes are combined Krogans and Turians. Perhaps they would find a way.

About the Reapers versus our ships. To solve that problem, it would be hard. Caution would always need to be taken. Yet over the war, perhaps other ships would be outfitted with enough power to take down Reapers in small groups. We only know that four dreadnoughts (presumeably armed with Thanix cannons) can take down a Reaper, but what of other ships? Could a group of frigates armed with Thanix take down a Reaper? I don't know, as that information has not been provided that I know of. So relying solely on the numbers of Dreadnoughts, we would likely lose, but with other numbers of fleets combined, other types of ships, possibilities could occur. With in game content, a lot of options are left unexplored, a lot of information required to formulate strategies and tactics left unsaid. 

You ask me to provide a direct counter for everything I say, then counter that again. I can't do that, not because I wouldn't know how I would counter it, but because I don't know how they would. I am not a Reaper, so I can't say how they would. What I might do could be entirely different from what they could.

But seeing as how you are done speaking with me... Goodbye.

BIU-Nice Response. Very Respectable. Honestly.

I believe Cannibals are part Krogan as well. I agree Krogans can help in any battle.

I agree,a lot of avenues are left in the grey. It is also 4 dreadnoughts w/o Thannix Cannons. The Thannix Cannons will and do help. The Reapers are still capable of defending themselves against such a force,as proven throughout ME3. Other ships well equipped may help,but when and where to equip these ships is also a problem. Either way they are potentially less useful then dreadnoughts. A helping addition of course. These avenues are being explored throughout ME3 though. The galaxy still feels as if the Crucible holds more of a chance vs Conventional Victory. Hackett is not the only Military leader who believes Conventional Victory is far fetched. Hence the reasoning behind agreeing to build and use the Crucible.

I was just asking for your specifics. Yea the Reapers may act differently from what you imagine for them,but you should at least try. Without it,your are making baseless accusations w/o considering the consequences of the actions being taken. Before making a military decision,one should weigh as many pro vs cons as possible. If we do this,what may they do to counter it. Be ready. You are telling me you are not talking about charging the enemy,but without weighing the consequences of your actions, that is exactly what you are doing.

Hoping space magic will prevail. You tell me it is possible,because you say so. Not good enough. I am sorry if you took my last responses as attacks on your person,they were not. It was more of a general comment when concerning internet users. I have to hold one in value,before one can offend me. Nothing more.  I am not easily offended. I am somewhat of a realist. I enjoy facts. I also understand people will have conflicting opinions,and it is better to accept that. Agree to Disagree. I do not have to be right,and would not mind seeing a conventional victory. Do I think it is possible within our current ME universe? No I do not. To many what ifs. They killed Billions of people within a week. A week. Billions lost. (They also gained Billions of Ground forces in that same week)Over 5 years and we have killed less then 10 Reapers,with the knowledge we hold.

All in All though,nice & respectable response. (From You)

Modifié par Rip504, 07 août 2012 - 01:51 .

[AlanC9]

MacNasty wrote...

Well actually what I am saying for that point is that I don't have enough information to put forth an argument for that. Is it wishful thinking to wonder if a group of frigates armed with Thanix can take down a Sovereign class Reaper?

Depends on what "could" means. Reliably? 20% of the time? 1% of the time? The former's unlikely. Something between the latter two would be conceivable.

The important question is "often enough to change the course of the war?" And the only evidence we have on that question is that nobody in a position to know thinks the war can be won, and in fact the war can't be won. That's all the data there is.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 août 2012 - 02:00 .

[MacNasty]

Rip504 wrote...

MacNasty wrote...
The way you wrote that seemed like I had offended you, sorry for assuming such a thing, but I've gotten used to people getting offended easily over the internet. I didn't assume myself to be so great, though I don't see why people need to be such great people to cause offense, but nevermind. I apoligize. I had not intended to bait you in anyway, I have trouble speaking with people and things I see as offensive or not seems to be the other way around sometimes...

The loss of life, I admit is a problem. The current way I can see it is regulating not only breeding, but the use of troops. If the genophage is cured, that can really help in solving that problem, for a mass of Krogan ground troops can solve that. Perhaps I missed something, but i haven't seen a solely Krogan Reaper unit, though Brutes are combined Krogans and Turians. Perhaps they would find a way.

About the Reapers versus our ships. To solve that problem, it would be hard. Caution would always need to be taken. Yet over the war, perhaps other ships would be outfitted with enough power to take down Reapers in small groups. We only know that four dreadnoughts (presumeably armed with Thanix cannons) can take down a Reaper, but what of other ships? Could a group of frigates armed with Thanix take down a Reaper? I don't know, as that information has not been provided that I know of. So relying solely on the numbers of Dreadnoughts, we would likely lose, but with other numbers of fleets combined, other types of ships, possibilities could occur. With in game content, a lot of options are left unexplored, a lot of information required to formulate strategies and tactics left unsaid. 

You ask me to provide a direct counter for everything I say, then counter that again. I can't do that, not because I wouldn't know how I would counter it, but because I don't know how they would. I am not a Reaper, so I can't say how they would. What I might do could be entirely different from what they could.

But seeing as how you are done speaking with me... Goodbye.

BIU-Nice Response. Very Respectable. Honestly.

I believe Cannibals are part Krogan as well. I agree Krogans can help in any battle.

I agree,a lot of avenues are left in the grey. It is also 4 dreadnoughts w/o Thannix Cannons. The Thannix Cannons will and do help. The Reapers are still capable of defending themselves against such a force,as proven throughout ME3. Other ships well equipped may help,but when and where to equip these ships is also a problem. Either way they are potentially less useful then dreadnoughts. A helping addition of course. These avenues are being explored throughout ME3 though. The galaxy still feels as if the Crucible holds more of a chance vs Conventional Victory. Hackett is not the only Military leader who believes Conventional Victory is far fetched. Hence the reasoning behind agreeing to build and use the Crucible.

I was just asking for your specifics. Yea the Reapers may act differently from what you imagine for them,but you should at least try. Without it,your are making baseless accusations w/o considering the consequences of the actions being taken. Before making a military decision,one should weigh as many pro vs cons as possible. If we do this,what may they do to counter it. Be ready. You are telling me you are not talking about charging the enemy,but without weighing the consequences of your actions, that is exactly what you are doing.

Hoping space magic will prevail. You tell me it is possible,because you say so. Not good enough. I am sorry if you took my last responses as attacks on your person,they were not. It was more of a general comment when concerning internet users. I have to hold one in value,before one can offend me. Nothing more.  I am not easily offended. I am somewhat of a realist. I enjoy facts. I also understand people will have conflicting opinions,and it is better to accept that. Agree to Disagree. I do not have to be right,and would not mind seeing a conventional victory. Do I think it is possible within our current ME universe? No I do not. To many what ifs. They killed Billions of people within a week. A week. Billions lost. (They also gained Billions of Ground forces in that same week)Over 5 years and we have killed less then 10 Reapers,with the knowledge we hold.

All in All though,nice & respectable response. (From You)

The more I argue this, the more I do realize I am relying on a lot of if's. It seems a lot of this has been left into the gray, perhaps to cement into the idea of the fanbase that conventional victory is impossible. But it does also lead to more questions. You are rather obviously more knowledgeable than I on the subject of the lore and facts leading to this argument, so I must ask a couple questions.

How long exactly does ME3 take? Just generally. 
How long does it take to build the Crucible?
How big is the Crucible to, say, a dreadnought?
If it's four dreadnoughts without thanix cannons, then how many with thanix cannons would it take?

I'm not sure if any of these were answered, but for me to go further into the argument, I think it would help a lot to know the answers to these questions if possible.

[MacNasty]

AlanC9 wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

Well actually what I am saying for that point is that I don't have enough information to put forth an argument for that. Is it wishful thinking to wonder if a group of frigates armed with Thanix can take down a Sovereign class Reaper?

Depends on what "could" means. Reliably? 20% of the time? 1% of the time? The former's unlikely. Something between the latter two would be conceivable.

The important question is "often enough to change the course of the war?" And the only evidence we have on that question is that nobody in a position to know thinks the war can be won, and in fact the war can't be won. That's all the data there is.

Yeah having unanswered questions that can really decide an argument, or at least greatly help one is a **** to deal with sometimes...

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

A question for the people who seem to be attacking this particular line of speculation.

Why so much venom? I think synthesis is the single most horrifically bad thing in the entire trilogy and yet I don't go around bashing people who think it's just the best thing ever.

Why waste your time arguing over this?

1. It's a game
2. SPECULATIONS!!!!
3. ME3 isn't good enough to warrant this level of rage on either side.
4. No one will ever convince anyone of anything on the internet.

[Father_Jerusalem]

MacNasty wrote...

You seem to be under the impression that all of our ships are scattered, everything is gone, hope is lost, and every single planet is under attack by the Reapers. Not to mention the fact, that if we use certain areas fo space, we can create and manufacture parts, equipment and likely ships there. Perhaps make stations solely for that purpose, keep their locations top secret, devise a way of sending resources that can keep the locations out of the Reapers knowledge, maybe even move them if possible or necessary.

I'm under that impression because, certainly by the end of the game, that's pretty much exactly what's happening.

Or did you miss the giant galaxy map that showed the Reapers in control of every major system in the galaxy before the final push for Earth?

[MacNasty]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

You seem to be under the impression that all of our ships are scattered, everything is gone, hope is lost, and every single planet is under attack by the Reapers. Not to mention the fact, that if we use certain areas fo space, we can create and manufacture parts, equipment and likely ships there. Perhaps make stations solely for that purpose, keep their locations top secret, devise a way of sending resources that can keep the locations out of the Reapers knowledge, maybe even move them if possible or necessary.

I'm under that impression because, certainly by the end of the game, that's pretty much exactly what's happening.

Or did you miss the giant galaxy map that showed the Reapers in control of every major system in the galaxy before the final push for Earth?

Mainly because of the Crucible, I think. Because everyone and everything is prepared to charge straight to Earth, yet if not for the Crucible, the fleets could have been used to help secure areas, and retake planets. I agree at the end it's over, yet I was talking about at the beginning. It seems we were at completely different parts of the game for that...

[Father_Jerusalem]

MacNasty wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

You seem to be under the impression that all of our ships are scattered, everything is gone, hope is lost, and every single planet is under attack by the Reapers. Not to mention the fact, that if we use certain areas fo space, we can create and manufacture parts, equipment and likely ships there. Perhaps make stations solely for that purpose, keep their locations top secret, devise a way of sending resources that can keep the locations out of the Reapers knowledge, maybe even move them if possible or necessary.

I'm under that impression because, certainly by the end of the game, that's pretty much exactly what's happening.

Or did you miss the giant galaxy map that showed the Reapers in control of every major system in the galaxy before the final push for Earth?

Mainly because of the Crucible, I think. Because everyone and everything is prepared to charge straight to Earth, yet if not for the Crucible, the fleets could have been used to help secure areas, and retake planets. I agree at the end it's over, yet I was talking about at the beginning. It seems we were at completely different parts of the game for that...

Oh, so then you just missed the Reaper invasion force slicing through Earth's defenses like a hot knife through butter? The same way they did to Palaven and Thessia later in the game? And we're supposed to move all our industrial bases somewhere secret, that we don't tell the Reapers about (sup indoctrination) and... somehow... build new fleets and beat them?

Yet the Crucible is too "space magicy"?

[Rip504]

MacNasty wrote...


The more I argue this, the more I do realize I am relying on a lot of if's. It seems a lot of this has been left into the gray, perhaps to cement into the idea of the fanbase that conventional victory is impossible. But it does also lead to more questions. You are rather obviously more knowledgeable than I on the subject of the lore and facts leading to this argument, so I must ask a couple questions.

How long exactly does ME3 take? Just generally. 
How long does it take to build the Crucible?
How big is the Crucible to, say, a dreadnought?
If it's four dreadnoughts without thanix cannons, then how many with thanix cannons would it take?

I'm not sure if any of these were answered, but for me to go further into the argument, I think it would help a lot to know the answers to these questions if possible.

Your Questions are tough. Lol I honestly do not know. I would say a few Months answers both of the first questions. For some reason I seem to remember 3-6 months. The size vs material vs time I also do not know. Someone said it has taken over 5 years to build three and finish a single dreadnought. As I assume ME3 took a few months,it would seem the Crucible was a much faster build. As obviously it should be with more then just Humanity working on it. A single project,a single ship. The process for building the Crucible, was described as easier then anticipated.

I also assume the addition of Thannix Cannons wouldn't change the number much(if at all),of the amount of dreadnoughts needed to destroy a Reaper. Although that is just speculation on my part. I always say 2or 3 instead of four,just to be nice. The Reapers are fighting and destroying Thannix Equipped dreadnoughts throughput ME3. I would have to look up the answers to your questions.

As it sits right now, That is my speculation upon your questions. Sorry I don't know. A bit has come up and I need to do some things,so I will continue a more positive discussion later. Sorry.

Also starting from the beginning and not including our current events within ME3. Is indeed rewriting the story and changing what is our current state in ME3. I strongly believe within our current ME universe,that Conventional Victory is an extremely far fetched Reality. Let's face it,nothing is impossible just highly improbable.

Modifié par Rip504, 07 août 2012 - 02:42 .

[AlanC9]

MacNasty wrote...
How long exactly does ME3 take? Just generally. 
How long does it take to build the Crucible?

These are related, since time only passes in ME3 as you progress through the plot.

How much time? Looks like a few months, tops. Dr. Chakwas insists on opening that annual bottle of Serrice Ice Brandy early, because "something tells me we won't have the chance a few months from now." So 1 year minus those few months, minus the six months Shep was relieved of command, minus however much time was left to go in ME2 when they drank the brandy the first time, plus however much of ME3 is left at the time this convo comes up.

How big is the Crucible to, say, a dreadnought?

There's a fairly good shot of it as it clears the Charon relay, with other ships around You should be able to find it in your movies folder if YouTube gives you trouble.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 août 2012 - 04:32 .

[Skirata129]

yeah, the crucible was pretty big compared to the citadel, so probably several times the size of most dreadnaughts.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

SO GIVE SHEPARD COMMAND OF THE FLEETS.  It really is that easy,  would add a nice SM like final fight as well.

It doesn't work that way.

The variables are NOT the same.

It is an entirely new set of circumstances that you have to account for.

Yeah. Bad writing and lazy programming.