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Bioware is it too much to ask for the feeling of victory when we beat ME3


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Brovikk Rasputin

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ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.

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wantedman dan wrote...

Yet youre using a straw-mann and ignoring all obvious facts. You must not like facts.


Ah yes, "obvious", we have dismissed those claims. :P

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.

This statement contradicts itself. You're saying we're complaining and should get over getting a great sense of victory.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:09 .


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Brovikk, shut up.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Thane's death wasn't a sacrifice. The person on Virmire wasn't a sacrifice.
And LOTS of other media have done it better. Numerous books and movies and a few games. 

Ignorance is still blissful based on how its done quite often in video games.  Thane died to protect the Salarian concillor and the death of Kaidan/Ashley is the definition of sacrafice.

Ticonderoga117 wrote... 

Spec Ops: The Line.
Apocalypse Now
All Quiet on the Western Front
Saving Private Ryan
etc etc

Never said there wasn't other examples while you're still not being open minded.

P. S. If this doesn't make you have some sadness then you must only be playing games just for general entertainment.

 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:21 .


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Brovikk, shut up.

Reported.

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ld1449 wrote...

Talking to Blue and Maaze is like talking to a water wheel.

wantedman dan wrote...

Yet youre using a straw-mann and ignoring all obvious facts. You must not like facts.

Ticonderoga117 wrote...
Ah yes, "obvious", we have dismissed those claims. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

 Pot caling the kettle black. You guys seem to argue rather then having a simple debate.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:19 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Talking to Blue and Maaze is like talking to a water wheel.

wantedman dan wrote...

Yet youre using a straw-mann and ignoring all obvious facts. You must not like facts.

Ticonderoga117 wrote...
Ah yes, "obvious", we have dismissed those claims. Image IPB

 Pot caling the kettle black. You guys seem to argue rather then having a simple debate.


I see your still resorting to insults

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AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Talking to Blue and Maaze is like talking to a water wheel.

wantedman dan wrote...

Yet youre using a straw-mann and ignoring all obvious facts. You must not like facts.

Ticonderoga117 wrote...
Ah yes, "obvious", we have dismissed those claims. Image IPB

 Pot caling the kettle black. You guys seem to argue rather then having a simple debate.


I see your still resorting to insults

Yet I'm not insulting anyone.

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Blueprotoss wrote...
Ignorance is still blissful based on how its done quite often in video games.  Thane died to protect the Salarian concillor and the death of Kaidan/Ashley is the definition of sacrafice.


Thane died trying to fight the space ninja. It wasn't necessary because SHEPARD WAS RIGHT THERE. Plus, I don't think he went into going "Yeah, I'm going to die."

Never said there wasn't other examples while you're still not being open minded.


Oh, I am. TheME3 as a whole still sucks, the ending moreso. 

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v TricKy v wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

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No sacrifice, no victory.....

There are already millions/billions of people dead at the end of ME3 including friends like Thane and Mordin and most populated worlds are seriously damaged. I dont get the point of killing Shepard or the Geth. The end is already bittersweet. There is no need to force it further


if you feel that way, then choose one of the two options where you only sacrifice yourself.....and not all the Geth


As I said, I knew that there was going to be a heavy price to pay.....

Hell, Garrus knew it was coming...."let 10 million die over there, so 20 million over here can live"


It didn't feel forced at all. If I wanted to entirely rid the galaxy of the Reapers, then I have to purge all technology derived from or associated with Reaper tech.....makes sense, and most notably, such an ending or ones similar, have been used since the inception of the sci fi genre

The thing that endings are nonsensical im my eyes.
I killed the Illusive not five minutes ago for wanting control but now its ok? NOPE
Synthesis? NOPE
Destroy? Im laying alone in rubble grasping air one time but an entire race dies for it NOPE

Also in response to the bolded part. Do you know that the whole Mass Effect technology is derived from Reaper tech? Purging it would mean throwing everyone back to the point before space travel was possible.


so basically, your opinion. Your opinion. And, your opinion. (Pertaining to the end choices, that's all you expressed. Opinions.)

And yes, I am aware that "mass effect" technology(i.e. relays and the citadel) is Reaper tech.....And No, it would not bring everybody back to a time without space travel... In the ME universe, Humans achieved space flight without mass effect technology.....in fact, they would've never discovered Mass Effect tech without getting off Earth.....they travelled through space with their own tech, and eventually found out that, gee there's crazy Relay thingy's out here....nice try though

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Thane died trying to fight the space ninja. It wasn't necessary because SHEPARD WAS RIGHT THERE. Plus, I don't think he went into going "Yeah, I'm going to die."

If Thane wasn't willing to sacrafice himself to protect the Salarian Councilor then he wouldn't have faced Kei Lang.  Thane was going to die anyways and he was fairly weak since he was a dead man walking.

Ticonderoga117 wrote... 

Oh, I am. TheME3 as a whole still sucks, the ending moreso. 

Yet you're still not being open minded and thats pretty sad when you're here complaining over nothing.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:46 .


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Mcfly616 wrote...

so basically, your opinion. Your opinion. And, your opinion. (Pertaining to the end choices, that's all you expressed. Opinions.)

I wish that more people would be rational like this based on how opinions and facts should be kept seperate instead some people lumping opinions into facts.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:52 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

so basically, your opinion. Your opinion. And, your opinion. (Pertaining to the end choices, that's all you expressed. Opinions.)

I wish that more people would be rational like this based on how opinions and facts should be kept seperate instead some people lumping opinions into facts.


then follow your own advice

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AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

so basically, your opinion. Your opinion. And, your opinion. (Pertaining to the end choices, that's all you expressed. Opinions.)

I wish that more people would be rational like this based on how opinions and facts should be kept seperate instead some people lumping opinions into facts.

 
then follow your own advice

I do practice what I preach while you don't especially when you demand Bioware to do want you personally want.  Btw rational people don't resort to insulting other people during a debate.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 01 août 2012 - 12:05 .


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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.


Translation: "I'm happy so STFU"

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iakus wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.


Translation: "I'm happy so STFU"

Translation: "If you still don't like the ending after the EC, and still spend your time complaining and telling everyone what you don't like about it, AFTER FOUR MONTHS, maybe you should take a look at how you spend your time."

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Mcfly616 wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
No sacrifice, no victory.....

There are already millions/billions of people dead at the end of ME3 including friends like Thane and Mordin and most populated worlds are seriously damaged. I dont get the point of killing Shepard or the Geth. The end is already bittersweet. There is no need to force it further


if you feel that way, then choose one of the two options where you only sacrifice yourself.....and not all the Geth


As I said, I knew that there was going to be a heavy price to pay.....

Hell, Garrus knew it was coming...."let 10 million die over there, so 20 million over here can live"


It didn't feel forced at all. If I wanted to entirely rid the galaxy of the Reapers, then I have to purge all technology derived from or associated with Reaper tech.....makes sense, and most notably, such an ending or ones similar, have been used since the inception of the sci fi genre

The thing that endings are nonsensical im my eyes.
I killed the Illusive not five minutes ago for wanting control but now its ok? NOPE
Synthesis? NOPE
Destroy? Im laying alone in rubble grasping air one time but an entire race dies for it NOPE

Also in response to the bolded part. Do you know that the whole Mass Effect technology is derived from Reaper tech? Purging it would mean throwing everyone back to the point before space travel was possible.


so basically, your opinion. Your opinion. And, your opinion. (Pertaining to the end choices, that's all you expressed. Opinions.)

And yes, I am aware that "mass effect" technology(i.e. relays and the citadel) is Reaper tech.....And No, it would not bring everybody back to a time without space travel... In the ME universe, Humans achieved space flight without mass effect technology.....in fact, they would've never discovered Mass Effect tech without getting off Earth.....they travelled through space with their own tech, and eventually found out that, gee there's crazy Relay thingy's out here....nice try though

Of course im stating my opinion. I dont know what you are doing in these thread if you are not stating your opinion.

Also real space travel is impossible because FTL drives and the Relays are the only means to travel in the galaxy and they both rely on Reaper tech. Taking that away means that everyone is trapped in their home system until the find a solution on their own. We already have space flight in real life. It just takes decades to even get to our most distant planets.. nice try though

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet I'm not insulting anyone.


Yet you are based on your unwillingness to debate.

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AresKeith wrote...

I see your still resorting to insults


We should feel bad for so blatantly mocking him and him so obviously not getting it.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.


0/10 poor attempt

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Hmm

This thread must be what Messy Effect is all about......

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

If I want to see someone stop a cycle, I'll rent a goddamn movie on Netflix. If I want to have fun in the evening I'll play a video game. Do you see the difference?

Playing a depressing game for 40 goddamn hours to have it end in a depressing manner like this was NOT FUN. I'd rather watch a damned movie for two hours -- it's cheaper and less of a personal investment.

Apparently you haven't played that many games including some of the titles in this generation based on your comment.  Video games is another story telling medium just like comics, novels, movies, and tv shows are while they don't need to be filled with action to be good.


Apparently I'm just more selective. If a game doesn't look like it's going to be fun to play I won't play it. If the story looks like it's going to be crap and depressing, I usually don't finish it. I'd rather read a book that's got a depressing ending if it's well written than a half-assed written story in a video game. Or I'd rather go into my studio and work on a music composition.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 01 août 2012 - 01:16 .


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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Apparently I'm just more selective.


Yet you resort to insults and straw-manns

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wantedman dan wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Apparently I'm just more selective.


Yet you resort to insults and straw-manns


FTL forum. I edited.