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[wantedman dan]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Apparently I'm just more selective.

Yet you resort to insults and straw-manns

FTL forum. I edited.

I was mocking Blueprotoss, lol. No harm intended.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

wantedman dan wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Apparently I'm just more selective.

Yet you resort to insults and straw-manns

FTL forum. I edited.

I was mocking Blueprotoss, lol. No harm intended.

No harm done. I got back from an afternoon in the sunshine hitting a bucket of balls at the driving range. What could be bad about that? Only hit 20 bad shots out of 80. Not bad for the second time since 30 years ago.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 01 août 2012 - 01:32 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ME3 post EC gives a great sense of victory. Stop complaining and get over it.

Will you cry if people don't?

[XqctaX]

oh look a thread full of "people" still claiming the game was not flawed
the ending was'nt poorly written
and the hero dying b4 the war is over, is victory flavored ending..


is that mac and casey's troll act's i see in here roflmao
claiming that there subjective opinion that the game ended in victory is fact,
so noone should say they want an ending that feels like a real victory.

acually im leaving. no use in talking to lesse developed minds,.



l

[wantedman dan]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

No harm done. I got back from an afternoon in the sunshine hitting a bucket of balls at the driving range. What could be bad about that? Only hit 20 bad shots out of 80. Not bad for the second time since 30 years ago.

Not too shabby. I suppose I'll be picking up golf here sometime soon.

[D24O]

XqctaX wrote...

oh look a thread full of "people" still claiming the game was not flawed
the ending was'nt poorly written
and the hero dying b4 the war is over, is victory flavored ending..


is that mac and casey's troll act's i see in here roflmao
claiming that there subjective opinion that the game ended in victory is fact,
so noone should say they want an ending that feels like a real victory.

acually im leaving. no use in talking to lesse developed minds,.



l

Uh oh...

[wantedman dan]

D24O wrote...

XqctaX wrote...

oh look a thread full of "people" still claiming the game was not flawed
the ending was'nt poorly written
and the hero dying b4 the war is over, is victory flavored ending..


is that mac and casey's troll act's i see in here roflmao
claiming that there subjective opinion that the game ended in victory is fact,
so noone should say they want an ending that feels like a real victory.

acually im leaving. no use in talking to lesse developed minds,.



l

Uh oh...

RACISM

SEXISM 

SOMETHINGF*CKINGISM

Modifié par wantedman dan, 01 août 2012 - 01:52 .

[wizardryforever]

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

[v TricKy v]

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

So if I get pushed in a giant bucket full of steaming sh** its my fault for not feeling awesome?
Seems legit

[wizardryforever]

v TricKy v wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

So if I get pushed in a giant bucket full of steaming sh** its my fault for not feeling awesome?
Seems legit

No, but it is your fault if you take an ambiguous situation and make it seem as bad as possible to justify complaining.  Not feeling victorious over your victory is a "you" problem, and no one else's.  I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

[ShepnTali]

You can't control your natural emotions/feelings without faking it.


Bioware didn't hit the more well rounded sweet spot.

[wantedman dan]

wizardryforever wrote...

No, but it is your fault if you take an ambiguous situation and make it seem as bad as possible to justify complaining.  Not feeling victorious over your victory is a "you" problem, and no one else's.  I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

I thought I heard my washer go into its spin cycle, but as it turns out, I clicked on this thread and that's where the noise was coming from.

[CSunkyst]

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

HAHAHAHA that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  Remember next time one of your loved ones dies, you can just choose to feel happy about it.  Oh wait...  it doesn't work that way.  At all. 

Art is all about controlling how somebody feels.  This is why we call things comedies or tragedies, the artist is trying to make you feel a certain way.  If the vast majority of people feel like the endings are a letdown or if the endings feel like a surrender, then either that's what Bioware wanted in the first place, or they FAILED with the message they were trying to convey. 

Now you might be an exception to the rule (as many people who still bother to hang out here probably are), but most people I've talked to about the ME3 feel like it ended poorly or in failure.

"You and you alone control how you feel about something."  I just don't understand apologists. 

Modifié par CSunkyst, 01 août 2012 - 02:14 .

[Iakus]

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

Every option is a victory through compromise, betrayal, and death.

It's "victory" of a sort, but at too high a price for the game to be enjoyable.

[incinerator950]

iakus wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

Every option is a victory through compromise, betrayal, and death.

It's "victory" of a sort, but at too high a price for the game to be enjoyable.

For you.  Also, Refusal is a defeat, but with a high EMS, somehow the next cycle wins!

[Andrew_S]

For painful butthurt, apply an ice pack directly to the source.

[hoodaticus]

Destroy ending had me feeling like a total Champ after EC!

[GreyLycanTrope]

iakus wrote...
Every option is a victory through compromise, betrayal, and death.

It's "victory" of a sort, but at too high a price for the game to be enjoyable.

Choose which sort of monster you want to become to win essential. The end justifies the means, I'm not a fan of that notion, and given the paragon renegade options up to that point I didn't have to be.

[CSunkyst]

incinerator950 wrote...

iakus wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

Every option is a victory through compromise, betrayal, and death.

It's "victory" of a sort, but at too high a price for the game to be enjoyable.

For you.  Also, Refusal is a defeat, but with a high EMS, somehow the next cycle wins!

For most, the ME3 ending has been hated more than ANY other game ending.  This is a storytelling failure of a magnitude never before seen in gaming.  

[v TricKy v]

wizardryforever wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

So if I get pushed in a giant bucket full of steaming sh** its my fault for not feeling awesome?
Seems legit

No, but it is your fault if you take an ambiguous situation and make it seem as bad as possible to justify complaining.  Not feeling victorious over your victory is a "you" problem, and no one else's.  I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

Ah that´s the reason Amazon offered refunds to people who were unsatisfied with ME3, the price dropped pretty quick and Bioware tried to do damge control aka the EC. There is actually nothing wrong with the game. Its all just our fault. How stupid of us.  Send us a picture of you so we can build a statue in your honor for enlightning us.

Modifié par v TricKy v, 01 août 2012 - 02:21 .

[wizardryforever]

CSunkyst wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

HAHAHAHA that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  Remember next time one of your loved ones dies, you can just choose to feel happy about it.  Oh wait...  it doesn't work that way.  At all. 

Art is all about controlling how somebody feels.  This is why we call things comedies or tragedies, the artist is trying to make you feel a certain way.  If the vast majority of people feel like the endings are a letdown or if the endings feel like a surrender, then either that's what Bioware wanted in the first place, or they FAILED with the message they were trying to convey. 

Now you might be an exception to the rule (as many people who still bother to hang out here probably are), but most people I've talked to about the ME3 feel like it ended poorly or in failure.

"You and you alone control how you feel about something."  I just don't understand apologists. 

So you're telling me that if someone provokes you, you have no control over your emotions at all?  You have no choice but to feel angry?  Others can attempt to influence your emotions, but the final say is yours.  If something bad happens to you, you can feel bad about it and mope, or you can dust yourself off and keep going.  You are in control, ultimately.

I'm not apologizing for anything, I just don't jump on the hate bandwagon.  Especially about something that Bioware has virtually no control over.  Bioware, why couldn't you tailor the game to exactly what I wanted?  I wanted to blow up the Reapers with my mind alone and then bang Liara for two hours straight.  I didn't get that and now I feel sad.  You are to blame, Bioware!  Not me, not my unrealistic expectations, you!

[wizardryforever]

v TricKy v wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

So if I get pushed in a giant bucket full of steaming sh** its my fault for not feeling awesome?
Seems legit

No, but it is your fault if you take an ambiguous situation and make it seem as bad as possible to justify complaining.  Not feeling victorious over your victory is a "you" problem, and no one else's.  I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

Ah that´s the reason Amazon offered refunds to people who were unsatisfied with ME3, the price dropped pretty quick and Bioware tried to do damge control aka the EC. There is actually nothing wrong with the game. Its all just our fault. How stupid of us.  Send us a picture of you so we can build a statue in your honor for enlightning us.

Oh gee, I see the hostility is on the rise around here.  God forbid we actually act like mature adults.

Nice strawman, by the way.  I never said nothing was wrong with the game.  But only you have control over your reaction to anything.  If you didn't feel victorious, then well the fault at least partially lies with you.  But no, can't have anyone take responsibility for their own actions, we have to play the blame game.

[crimzontearz]

wizardryforever wrote...

CSunkyst wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...Bioware can't really help what you felt.  You and you alone control how you feel about something.  Feeling victorious is something that should easily be doable by you, considering that every option is a victory.  Even refuse, if you twist the word victory into something unrecognizable, like its fans do.

HAHAHAHA that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  Remember next time one of your loved ones dies, you can just choose to feel happy about it.  Oh wait...  it doesn't work that way.  At all.  Art is all about controlling how somebody feels.  This is why we call things comedies or tragedies, the artist is trying to make you feel a certain way.  If the vast majority of people feel like the endings are a letdown or if the endings feel like a surrender, then either that's what Bioware wanted in the first place, or they FAILED with the message they were trying to convey.  Now you might be an exception to the rule (as many people who still bother to hang out here probably are), but most people I've talked to about the ME3 feel like it ended poorly or in failure. "You and you alone control how you feel about something."  I just don't understand apologists. 

So you're telling me that if someone provokes you, you have no control over your emotions at all?  You have no choice but to feel angry?  Others can attempt to influence your emotions, but the final say is yours.  If something bad happens to you, you can feel bad about it and mope, or you can dust yourself off and keep going.  You are in control, ultimately.I'm not apologizing for anything, I just don't jump on the hate bandwagon.  Especially about something that Bioware has virtually no control over.  Bioware, why couldn't you tailor the game to exactly what I wanted?  I wanted to blow up the Reapers with my mind alone and then bang Liara for two hours straight.  I didn't get that and now I feel sad.  You are to blame, Bioware!  Not me, not my unrealistic expectations, you!

uhhhh, yeah they have control over it. After realizing people hated it they could have pushed for a rewrite....they did not. They had control.....they had the choice to actually fully listen and they did not. Also, you can have control on his to manage your anger but if someone insults it is normal to feel insulted and be upset

[GreyLycanTrope]

Asking for a game to give you a satisfying conclusion based on the effort you put into raising your EMS and choices you made along the way is not an unrealistic expectation.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 01 août 2012 - 02:30 .

[wantedman dan]

wizardryforever wrote...

So you're telling me that if someone provokes you, you have no control over your emotions at all?  You have no choice but to feel angry?  Others can attempt to influence your emotions, but the final say is yours.  If something bad happens to you, you can feel bad about it and mope, or you can dust yourself off and keep going.  You are in control, ultimately.

I'm not apologizing for anything, I just don't jump on the hate bandwagon.  Especially about something that Bioware has virtually no control over.  Bioware, why couldn't you tailor the game to exactly what I wanted?  I wanted to blow up the Reapers with my mind alone and then bang Liara for two hours straight.  I didn't get that and now I feel sad.  You are to blame, Bioware!  Not me, not my unrealistic expectations, you!

Conscientiously surpressing an emotional reaction is not the same as having an emotional reaction. Emotional response is brought about by chemicals being released in the brain: adrenaline, testosterone, etc. Your analogy fails.

Your strawman argument is adorable, too.