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#76
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shepdog77 wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

It's good to have a mix of people complaining and butt kissing.


Can there never be an in-between?  Always has to be these extremes of haters or lovers, and one side calling the other trolls.


Amen to that.

I really enjoyed both ME2 and ME3. I felt that ME2 was better than ME3 (it felt bigger) and there are plenty of things in the series I don't like, but on balance It was good.

Just stand back and wait for the haters to start on me again:mellow:

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Speak for yourself, I'm here complaining because I love Mass Effect and I feel like IT deserves a better ending, not myself. But you're right, BioWare's lack of honesty about the rushed product that was the original endings is pretty annoying. Not to mention all the promises.


this

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I'm still here because I find all you 'heart broken' people to be hilarious. Makes my enjoyment of the game all that much sweeter. Ahh, your sad tastes a lot like happy as I use your tears as a source of energy.

NOM NOM NOM

Modifié par inko1nsiderate, 31 juillet 2012 - 05:30 .


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inko1nsiderate wrote...

I'm still here because I find all you 'heart broken' people to be hilarious. Makes my enjoyment of the game all that much sweeter. Ahh, your sad tastes a lot like happy as I use your tears as a source of energy.

NOM NOM NOM


LMAO :lol:

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is actually better written than most games out there...


Like?


Basically every military shooter? And a lot of other acclaimed RPGs like Skyrim? 

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My first (un-spoilered) playthrough, the day the game came out, I enjoyed it all (well, except the prologue) right up until that abyssal horror of an ending. After the initial shock and disbelief subsided I took another look and more and more things started to glare out as "meh" to me. I guess I experienced the first PT on an endorphine high caused of finally being able to play the grande finale of my favorite game series ever. The endorphine high has long since worn off.

Now I´m just thankful that the EC in combination with heavy head canon allows me to replay the whole series with certain enjoyment and not give up on it entirely. I´m not ready for that...I´ll never be ready for that!
I just wish I could play along as happily as I did before the whole debacle. :unsure:

What concerns and at the same time disgusts me more than anything ME3 did though, are the pre-release promises/statements BW made and their behavior through the subsequent uproar. I used the word incomprehensible in another thread. I stand by that.

I´m still here because I loved and continue to love the ME-series, because I´m glad to realize I´m not the only one still bothered/disgruntled/raging mad, and because I still have the slightest tiny bit of irrational hope that BioWare has something up their sleeves that will put everything right again.
Those are also the reasons I came out of lurking after two years of BSN-invisibility. Ok, that and because my shrink told me to start interacting with people...I´m not quite convinced what good it´ll do me but oh well...I´m here now...guess you´re the ones who have to deal with it...lol... :ph34r:

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So.. basically you are still here because ****ing on a forum is the best possible way to spend your time.
And I thought the original ending of the game was sad, silly me...

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It's the responsible thing to do.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is actually better written than most games out there...


Like?


Basically every military shooter? And a lot of other acclaimed RPGs like Skyrim? 


Well, damn, you pulled out some A-listers right there :lol: /sarcasm

Bethesda games have never had great writing. Though I thought Skyrim was a big step-up and there are lot of cool things in there (and some very tight lore this time around), but the narrative is still incredibly lulzy and characters often fall into 'creative writing 101' mistakes.

For instance, you meet an orc chief near an orc stronghold and he decides, that the way he will create exposition about the orc strongholds in Skyrim is to just mention 50 different orcish sounding places and various orcish sounding persons, and hope that you catch up.
You're left scratching you're head wondering wtf you just listened to. In the end, you walk away even dumber than before.

Skyrim is filled with stuff like this. I love Bethesda games but not for their writing.

Modifié par WindfishDude, 31 juillet 2012 - 06:31 .


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WITH THE LIGHTS OUT IT'S LESS DANGEROUS

HERE WE ARE NOW ENTERTAIN US

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Sorry Op you feel that way but im here on bsn because I love ME, and I will continue to support the game in hopes Bioware will bring it back from the dead

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Im still here because all of you are ****ing hilarious. :)

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I am still here because:
I want an ending that does not insult the intelligence of people that played ME1 and 2 and even 3 itself. I want the ending that was promised-one that took note of choices made in all 3 games and not artificial choices inserted at the last moments of the last game in a trilogy. I want an ending. I haven't gotten one yet. I would like bittersweet, sad, sacrificial, and yes a happier ending-that's variety that I could see as the result of my choices.

With the endings we have why should I even play ME1 and 2? Why play most of ME3? All you need to do is play MP, promote classes, and the play just enough of ME3 to get to the end. I want Sovereign's and Harbinger's words to mean something. I want Legion's sacrifice to mean something. I want all my paragon decisions to mean something. I want Bioware's promises to mean something.

I know none of this will happen. I know they never listened. And I feel they never cared. If they cared they would really have attempted to open up a dialogue here, on this site with registered buyers and not lived on twitter and fed their egos at convention panel discussions.

And I think they need to find the backbone (the one maybe that they took out of Shepard) and face fans that disagree with them. I post because they may intend to release DLC and I still want to see if it's possible for them to redeem all this or if they will try to make Shepard-only missions or some with non-talking team members that doesn't change or add to what we got as an ending.

I am here because I loved ME and I wish I still did.  I am an eternal optimist and hope that I will be able to and that they will at long last listen.  I don't expect it but I hope.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 31 juillet 2012 - 07:10 .


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Oransel wrote...

Well, because I want to make sure that Bioware will not go away with what they have done - deliberately releasing subpar product. I am here complaining (whining) to make a point - you do not treat your customers like that. Maybe they will listen, maybe not (99% chance they do not listen at all), but this will never be forgotten.

For the better games. 

I'm all for complaining and everything, but lately people seem to be acting like BioWare *knew* their ending was lousy and deliberately released it anyway in a fit of malicious pique.

It really seems more like they simply thought it was good and didn't anticipate that we would disagree.

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More to the question why are those that are happy with ME3 still here?

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clarkusdarkus wrote...

More to the question why are those that are happy with ME3 still here?



LMAO  :whistle: :innocent:

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shepdog77 wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

It's good to have a mix of people complaining and butt kissing.


Can there never be an in-between?  Always has to be these extremes of haters or lovers, and one side calling the other trolls.


Yes, and of course they're here too,  but one's split view isn't necessarily more valid than anyone else. The spectrum is good.

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Because I am an obsessive weirdo who, despite having legitimate complaints, has chosen to wallow in them months after the fact, thus lending the mistakes on the part of Bioware far more control over my mood than they actually deserve. I feel the need to defend this because I am overly invested in these complaints.

Meanwhile, other fans who are upset with the ending have thrown up their hands and moved on to other things in the succeeding months, knowing that at least the vast majority of the trilogy was good and a stupid ending can't take that away from them.  You can find them at the bar. They're complaining, but at least they're having fun while doing so.

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I'm here because I hate everything.

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D24O wrote...

I'm here because I hate everything.


You win the game.

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D24O wrote...

I'm here because I hate everything.


Short and to the point. I like! :happy:

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I'm still here because all the self-righteousness and sanctimony and hypocrisy amuses the hell out of me.

And because I actually like ME3. Which is novel, I suppose, on a forum for ME3.

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Nightwriter wrote...

I'm all for complaining and everything, but lately people seem to be acting like BioWare *knew* their ending was lousy and deliberately released it anyway in a fit of malicious pique.

It really seems more like they simply thought it was good and didn't anticipate that we would disagree.


Hmmm... more like they torched it with gleeful disregard for their audience. After all, gamers are always complaining, but they still buy whatever their beloved BW decides to peddle.

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I lurk here waiting for news on the next sp dlc. I also enjoy reading peoples opinions on ME. Overall. I love. ME.

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I'm here to feed the soul-eaters and tear-drinkers, lest they wither and die.