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Why is N7 ranking such a volatile subject? Death threat, angry messages, and insults...


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The problem isn't N7 rankings, it's the crazy, uncivilized, non-critical thinking, nothing going for them in life except if they get that next UR, hiding behind the veil of the Internet/avatar kinds of people that is the problem.

Really disheartening to hear about ur death threats glad it didn't ruin the game completely for you.

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I beat FBDGG with a teammate who was a N7 14. He was one of my party member's dads.

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Is it that big a deal? I only ever see people on the forum talk about. In-game nobody seems to care much. (PC here.) Unless someone's N7 is 13 and they're in a Gold lobby.

Honestly, it doesn't say much, but I wouldn't say it's completely meaningless. Very generally speaking, I've had better luck with team mates with a higher ranking. (Edit: meaning over ~300) There are many exceptions, of course and I wouldn't kick anyone based on N7 rank (the exception being someone with an N7 below 20 on Gold).

Modifié par Nelzeben, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:29 .


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I'd rather have the crazies at home, playing games, making death threats in chat than walking the streets.

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A MIAOW wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

I got kicked from bronze for being too low of a level.


It is not something you can comprehend.


Oh I see you point, seems not everyone in the community with a standard moral level.

How could you kick a player in Bronze? Where else could they go?

This is bronze and this is the place suppose to train people's combat skills.

I never kick people in bronze even he/she is totoally new with N7 rank 1 , actually I never care about squad member's rank or level.

Because actually I don't need them at all. I always start  a bronze public lobby on my own, if someone after few waves, of course I don't mind carry people.

I think Kick option should not be allowed in any bronze lobby.

People that kick in bronze seem to think BioWare also introduced Tinfoil difficulty in Earth DLC ...... I want my Tinfoil diffficulty that only does Waves 1 - 3 and rewards a maximum of 1000 credits! :lol:

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

I've seen plenty of people say, "N7 ranking doesn't mean anything. Don't judge by it." Only to turn around and talk about how bad people with high N7 ranking are. The hypocrisy is laughable.

Gotta respond just for this.

The thing with high N7 ranking is that it only shows that they spend a lot of time promoting characters.

It could mean they're simply not trying to learn how to exploit a level 20 character to the fullest.
It could mean that they're only promoting through Bronze and not really learning the ropes.
It could be that they could have been playing the game solely to boost their N7 levels.

There are countless implications that a high N7 can portray that reflects on players poorly. I just play the game and judge on an individual basis, but I do understand where they're coming from. When you bump into a player with a high N7 and plays an absolutely terrible game, it distorts the concept that a high N7 rank equates to competence rather badly.

Bad apple spoils the rest and whatnot. And with that said, I hope the person who sent the death threat to you gets a boot to the head.

Modifié par haisho, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:31 .


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N7 as a ranking concept is idiotic to begin with. In fact, most "Rankings" in online games is stupid anyway, as most of the higher rankers use cheap tactics to get it anyway such as exploiting imbalances or just plain exploiting, as opposed to using skill or challenging methods.

The fact that it was used as the basis of threats or other aggressive behavior is proof of this. Immature players feel that numbers matter more than how these numbers were brought up. So mess up their numbers. If they are on Xbox, give them negative feedback for quitting early. It drives them nuts and is anonymous, as it lowers their ratings.

For straight up death threats Xbox live has a playyer reporting system that SHOULD be used for serious things of that matter.

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Tipsyfresh wrote...

The problem isn't N7 rankings, it's the crazy, uncivilized, non-critical thinking, nothing going for them in life except if they get that next UR, hiding behind the veil of the Internet/avatar kinds of people that is the problem.

Really disheartening to hear about ur death threats glad it didn't ruin the game completely for you.


Huh, well put.
Also it didn't ruin the game at all for me. One angry person in a sea of sensible people is to be expected.

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Personally I look at thier weapons. If I'm playing a gold match and I see a N7 level 120 I'll go meh maybe there good, but then If I look at your weapons and character and your running a avenger XII with a shiruken X with a level 13 salarian, I don't care if this is WGG I'm kicking you.

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robarcool wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

I got kicked from bronze for being too low of a level.


It is not something you can comprehend.

Bronze? Those people must be terrible players at the least or maybe they were waiting on a friend.

This is... this... I can't even...

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If someone threatened you over a video game, they're obviously unstable or mentally retarded. I'm glad that I'm on the PC so I don't have to deal with the console kiddies.

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robarcool wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...I got kicked from bronze for being too low of a level.It is not something you can comprehend.

Bronze? Those people must be terrible players at the least or maybe they were waiting on a friend.






Only reason to kick anyone off a bronze match is if 3 guys are ready to go and the 4th doesn't respond to calls / more then 3 mins "afk".





Recently just kicked someone dicking around while 3 of us were ready. He kept changing characters, switching weapons, modding weapons, switch back to another class, switch weapons again, hit ready, but 2 seconds in, decided to swich back to the original class, do weapons again, then ping pong between a few classes. Think we all waited for 5mins while this guy went through this BS before we kicked him.

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jd641 wrote...

If someone threatened you over a video game, they're obviously unstable or mentally retarded. I'm glad that I'm on the PC so I don't have to deal with the console kiddies.

i guess it is an absolute fact that Crazy dillweed pre-teens dont play games on computers...Fact right?

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Drake Malice wrote...

jd641 wrote...

If someone threatened you over a video game, they're obviously unstable or mentally retarded. I'm glad that I'm on the PC so I don't have to deal with the console kiddies.

i guess it is an absolute fact that Crazy dillweed pre-teens dont play games on computers...Fact right?


I'm on Xbox same as you...and saying that...can we NOT prove his point by getting butthurt over snide, elitism fueled comments?

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Slyde1052 wrote...

Drake Malice wrote...

jd641 wrote...

If someone threatened you over a video game, they're obviously unstable or mentally retarded. I'm glad that I'm on the PC so I don't have to deal with the console kiddies.

i guess it is an absolute fact that Crazy dillweed pre-teens dont play games on computers...Fact right?


I'm on Xbox same as you...and saying that...can we NOT prove his point by getting butthurt over snide, elitism fueled comments?

Im just saying that PC costs more money to maintain, therefore snobby brats with PCs play games and are far more annoying than the punks on consoles...that is all i am saying

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jd641 wrote...

If someone threatened you over a video game, they're obviously unstable or mentally retarded. I'm glad that I'm on the PC so I don't have to deal with the console kiddies.


At least console kiddies can't get aimbots. I'd much rather have to deal with console kiddies then PC kiddies.

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

Why do people make N7 such a big deal? I've gotten a legitimate death threat because of my N7 ranking. For me it became an unnecessarily important subject. Why do people put so much stock into ranking? Is it really that important to some of you?
I've gotten my share of angry messages and insults just because people assume things because of my high ranking. The only reason it's so high is because I enjoyed the leveling system and had nothing better to do except level my characters.
N7 ranking breeds nothing but assumptions. Some will say "high" N7 ranking will be elitist snobs while at the same time, those "high" ranking will say the ones with "low" ranking are just inept players not worthy of playing with them. No one side is better than the other.
I've seen plenty of people say, "N7 ranking doesn't mean anything. Don't judge by it." Only to turn around and talk about how bad people with high N7 ranking are. The hypocrisy is laughable.

I just have the mentality to go by loadout and character choice only. I don't look at N7 ranking often. I'm curious as to how many other forum members do this.
Sorry for the rant. I just want to understand the irrationality some have.
PS: I wasn't calling anyone particular out. So if you felt that I did, I apologize. That was not my intention.


Is there such a thing as an illegitimate death threat?

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the death threat that isn't acted upon (almost all of them)

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Some people are just dicks.

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A MIAOW wrote...

N7 ranking is totoally meaningless on Bronze and Silver.

But it definally means something when you enter a u/u/g or any platinum lobby.

I will kick whose N7 rank under 200 in platinum for sure.


The other day I was farming Platinum with my usual group, and we pugged one spot and got an N7 of 120.  He had no trouble keeping up with our ~15 min farm runs on Reaper Glacier.  The dude was rocking a Typhoon III and had more UR unlocks than I do.

My N7 is 300, and the only reason it's over 120 is because of the promoting events, for which I promoted just enough to get the personal goals.  Never have I promoted another character for any reason, and I never will.  I like having the versatility of hopping on my Demolisher, then back to my Adept or ex-Cerb Vanguard, then over to my GI, and finally back over to the Human Soldier or Destroyer.  

If you chain-promote you hurt only yourself; you are forced to go back to easier difficulties (so you won't have the credit income you otherwise might), farming easy enemies for easy XP which blunts your skills to deal with enemies on harder difficulties.  Furthermore, you can't just swap to another toon for the benefit of the group's comp.  Less credits, less unlocks, less skill.  Not hard to figure out.  

Respec cards are NOT that uncommon folks.  This is not an excuse.  Spec carefully, don't horde Respec cards so you keep getting them (keep them under 3), max all your classes and start progressing through harder difficulties - which will give you more credits to spend on PSPs, so you get more respec cards / mods / gear, so you can progress easier.

That's how you play this game.  N7 rating has exactly nothing to do with it, and in fact N7 rating is counterproductive for optimal play.

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Modifié par DarthVarner, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:52 .


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EDIT: NVM I thought you were on pc ;)
Please delete post.

Modifié par ExecutorBG, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:53 .


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A MIAOW wrote...

N7 ranking is totoally meaningless on Bronze and Silver.

But it definally means something when you enter a u/u/g or any platinum lobby.

I will kick whose N7 rank under 200 in platinum for sure.


well, looks like i'd be kicked for sure since i refuse to go higher than my 150 =P

>_> what if i just like the number 150 eh!:? eh eh eh eh!?!?
seeing how i've been playing this mp since the game came out >_> i really don't put a  lot of stock in n7 ranking. want to know the best way to find out if someone knows their stuff >_> try talking to them, yay @ voice chat!

besides! >_> if you are grinding out credits and im using my salarian engineer >_> anyone who is expecting miracles from a guy who's only real job is to put a decoy up......Yeah....

>_> at least i bring rockets and move fast >D

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Tealjaker94 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

You got a death threat? That's both hilarious and disturbing at the same time.


Indeed, would you care to share the context and wording? I am certainly interested in seeing that, if only for the comedy value.

I'm on Xbox (Go figure). I kicked him after he utterly and totally sucked in a match. He then started calling me out about what a big tough guy I am. It quickly devolved to the point where he said he would kill me. He saw that I lived in Alaska and eerily guessed that I lived in Anchorage saying that he could get there. I actually got a little unnerved and blocked communications and reported him.
While I know that he probably wouldn't have acted on it. It did freak me out a little that he perfectly guessed where I lived.

Well, there's only like 2 cities in Alaska, right? Anchorage and Juneau. I can't think of any others.



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I wrote this answer in an instant, didn't check the following posts. Then I checked back to read the rest of this thread and *bamm* here's that:

Drake Malice wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

You got a death threat? That's both hilarious and disturbing at the same time.


Indeed, would you care to share the context and wording? I am certainly interested in seeing that, if only for the comedy value.

I'm on Xbox (Go figure). I kicked him after he utterly and totally sucked in a match. He then started calling me out about what a big tough guy I am. It quickly devolved to the point where he said he would kill me. He saw that I lived in Alaska and eerily guessed that I lived in Anchorage saying that he could get there. I actually got a little unnerved and blocked communications and reported him.
While I know that he probably wouldn't have acted on it. It did freak me out a little that he perfectly guessed where I lived.

Well, there's only like 2 cities in Alaska, right? Anchorage and Juneau. I can't think of any others.


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Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 31 juillet 2012 - 05:02 .


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I find it odd when people say that having a high N7 ranking means nothing. Having a high N7 ranking means you've promoted a lot, so you've probably played the game quite a bit, leveling that much. Conversely, having a low N7 rating tells you absolutely nothing about a player. It doesn't mean they're bad, doesn't mean they're good, generally doesn't mean a damned thing, unless they're below 120.

I hate when players make assumptions about the personality of high N7 people. I'm not super-high (around 1800 I think), but plenty seem to think so. Having a high N7 level doesn't mean you're an elitist ******; I have no illusions about my level of skill. I know I'm okay at the game, and I know there are plenty of people with lower N7 rankings that are much, much better.

So yeah... feel your pain, OP. Not to the same degree, but I am annoyed at players giving me **** about it in lobbies.

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A MIAOW wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

I got kicked from bronze for being too low of a level.


It is not something you can comprehend.


Oh I see you point, seems not everyone in the community with a standard moral level.

How could you kick a player in Bronze? Where else could they go?

This is bronze and this is the place suppose to train people's combat skills.

I never kick people in bronze even he/she is totoally new with N7 rank 1 , actually I never care about squad member's rank or level.

Because actually I don't need them at all. I always start  a bronze public lobby on my own, if someone join after few waves, of course I don't mind carry people.

I think Kick option should not be allowed in any bronze lobby.


Obviously, you're supposed to use realy money to buy recruit packs and level up your characters.