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[Elder_Jefferson]

Ace_Blazer wrote...

I see my throws connect but they hardly ever detonate explosions now, and this is on teams with full biotics. I thought dark channel was messing with it, but does that make any sense? It usually took around 3 connecting throws to get an explosion, and my team was a drell, 2 asaris and a fury.

I thought I was doing something wrong at first, seeing as how I don't use adepts very often. I must have hit 50 charged enemies with throw and not have an explosion this last match. But then I'd turn around and explode the next guy. What gives?

[RonnyB]

Elder_Jefferson wrote...

Lord Chun wrote...

Yeah Non instant powers get dodged a lot now it's really annoying

My adept was playing dodgeball with a geth yesterday. I must have fired warp 5 times before hitting him, as he was standing in the open about 30 feet away, dodging every shot. Tried to follow up with throw, but guess how that ended up...

People keep saying "dodging" but I'm curious if that's what they actually mean. Not hitting and dodging are not the same thing. AFIK they can't or at least shouldn't be dodging more than once unless your cooldown for the power is really high. They're supposed to have a cooldown for dodge and a chance to dodge. The chance goes up on higher difficulties iirc and once they have dodged and you immediately recast they should not be dodging again. ( unless of course you wait too long and their dodge cooldown is over)

[Elder_Jefferson]

Bzilla wrote...

Lord Chun wrote...

Yeah Non instant powers get dodged a lot now it's really annoying

Gotta love it when you are behind an enemy and they all of a sudden know when to dodge your throw.

This

[uhaveaface]

Something's off. I failed to hit most of my targets with throw this weekend. Then I started to line up my reticle and aim before throwing... I would still miss most of the time. Something isn't working correctly with throw it seems.

[Hackulator]

What platform are you people having problems on? I play on PC and I have very little trouble with throw.

[RonnyB]

Hackulator wrote...

What platform are you people having problems on? I play on PC and I have very little trouble with throw.

I'm PC and I tend to have a lot of trouble with the non radius evo of throw off host.

[N7 Whiskey]

I've also noticed an increasing amount of Cerberus Guardians dodging projectile powers. I laughed the first time I saw a dude with a metal shield roll out of the way of Carnage, yelling at my TV "THAT'S RIGHT YOU BETTER GET THE F OUT OF WAY BISH!", but it's not so funny anymore.

[Pichsterz]

Sometimes my Throw would literally go through enemies with no effect at all. It's quite annoying when you're getting shot at or die because of it.

[Hackulator]

RonnyB wrote...

Hackulator wrote...

What platform are you people having problems on? I play on PC and I have very little trouble with throw.

I'm PC and I tend to have a lot of trouble with the non radius evo of throw off host.

Oh, ALWAYS go with the radius evolution on throw.

[CitizenThom]

Does selecting radius of effect at rank 4 on throw negate the dodges?

[soldo9149]

I havent seen the issue myself but I will take a look at it tonight Red John when i get home to see if I can confirm its a issue with throw,

[Cornughon]

But still, a Fury with a Claymore...

Yes I know this Redjohn guy is an excellent player and such, soloing Platinum and stuff but still.

Isn't this just about the same as that Asari Adept with a Javelin?

[Elder_Jefferson]

RonnyB wrote...

Elder_Jefferson wrote...

My adept was playing dodgeball with a geth yesterday. I must have fired warp 5 times before hitting him, as he was standing in the open about 30 feet away, dodging every shot. Tried to follow up with throw, but guess how that ended up...

People keep saying "dodging" but I'm curious if that's what they actually mean. Not hitting and dodging are not the same thing. AFIK they can't or at least shouldn't be dodging more than once unless your cooldown for the power is really high. They're supposed to have a cooldown for dodge and a chance to dodge. The chance goes up on higher difficulties iirc and once they have dodged and you immediately recast they should not be dodging again. ( unless of course you wait too long and their dodge cooldown is over)

Interesting. I know he was dodging, but 5 was just an approximation. Given my level of frustration, it could have only been once but felt like 5!

[RedJohn]

Cornughon wrote...

But still, a Fury with a Claymore...

Yes I know this Redjohn guy is an excellent player and such, soloing Platinum and stuff but still.

Isn't this just about the same as that Asari Adept with a Javelin?

My friend is uploading the full video, he recorded it as spectator.

And it works pretty well the combination with Claymore actually^_^

[RonnyB]

Hackulator wrote...

RonnyB wrote...

Hackulator wrote...

What platform are you people having problems on? I play on PC and I have very little trouble with throw.

I'm PC and I tend to have a lot of trouble with the non radius evo of throw off host.

Oh, ALWAYS go with the radius evolution on throw.

I do now. Same with incinerate because it seems to be suffering from the same issue. 

[Elder_Jefferson]

Hackulator wrote...

What platform are you people having problems on? I play on PC and I have very little trouble with throw.

pc, and I have more of a hang up with the biotic explosions not activating moreso than throw not hitting, unless the two are related somehow (I'm fairly certain they were connecting, though)

[bluebeam]

CitizenThom wrote...

Does selecting radius of effect at rank 4 on throw negate the dodges?

No. I only have the radius evo on my fury, some enemies dodge roll throw anyway even when used at point blank.

[Zombie Inc 91]

I noticed this the last time I played my Asari Adept. So many warps dodged. Then so many throws dodged. And if I beat the odds and got both to hit...no explosions half the time! Come on! What's with that!?

[neteng101]

Patch 1.03 has totally made me almost never use my AA anymore... on a PC here. Throw dodge is just BS... even with Radius, Throw is just plain unreliable. The only way to get reliable enough Biotic Explosions is to run with a team of 4 biotics spamming powers. The only time I play biotics anymore now is when I'm with a bunch of friends that feel like having a biotic blow all things up day.

Just another wrinkle that shows how Bioware's nerfs are killing the game.

[RedJohn]

I just did some test.

Radius and no radius the result is the same.

Also I was hosting and was the same result

[PaganPoetry]

I am so unmotivated to play my classes with Throw now because I will spam it like 20 times at an enemy and NOTHING will happen. No dodge, no lag, just literally hitting the enemy but no reaction.

[Rib0flavin]

One of the reasons I am not a fan of adepts Vs the trash. You spend the majority of time spamming throw. Then if there is an overload spammer in your group. Don't ever expect to get a biotic explosion off anything but the big bads.

Modifié par Rib0flavin, 31 juillet 2012 - 05:49 .

[Sypha Darkke]

I play on 360 and Biotics are just glitched. I have had all of the above happen all the time. I have seen my powers loose lock in mid flight. As far as BE's go BW either added a chance for enemies to resist powers or more likely just broken game mechanics.

[Animate]

death_for_sale wrote...

All adepts are suffering from Rotator Cuff injuries.

This.

[megabeast37215]

I've had this happen for awhile now... kinda pushed me away from the biotics.

One way I've found around it is to shoot the enemy with your gun so they do their little dodge... THEN hit them with the blue ball power. Since they just used their dodge, it always hits. Works great on Hunter/Marauders/Centurions... the worst offenders.