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[Nicegil2012]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAWR!!!! stop complaining and just ROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!

[Ramsutin]

So it has good DPS, gets 50% damage multiplier against shields, armor and barriers, has a large clip. On the other hand it is heavy and has 5 bullet (?) ramp up time.
.....
And you also have the Destroyer.
My reaction:
http://i.imgur.com/MyGV2.gif

Modifié par Ramsutin, 03 août 2012 - 06:32 .

[Yajuu Omoi]

Gockey wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

At level 3 the Typhoon can out shoot the Revenant X in sustained gunfire. That is what the Typhoon is meant to do.
The Revenant is better at burst DPS, but it has no ramp up time, and is meant for burst fire anyway. So naturaly it should be better at it.

Yeah I see where your coming from and I just completely disagree.

The the typhoon hardly outshoots the revenant.  The ramp up time matters.  If you get staggered or have to reload it sucks.  

I don't know what all you factored into those DPS numbers you put up, but the revenant wins at medium to close range.  Which is a shame.  All these people saying its fine are right.  But the revenant outclasses it in so many scenarios.

I feel like they overnerfed the Typhoon.  Oh I agree wholeheartedly with the first AP nerf.  I can even understand the DMG nerf a bit.  But I feel like they hit it too hard.  Now I just stick with the Harrier.  Which is a shame because the Typhoon is fun.  It requires a higher risk and should come with a higher reward.

How does the Rev win at any range? close its accurate, but the typhoon STILL hits harder, for longer.
Here's the numbers:
Typhoon 3 vs Revenant 10 vs Typhoon 10

Typhoon Damage per shot: 70 (47 before charge)
Revenant Dmg per shot: 80
Typhoon 10: 83 (56)

Typhoon Rof (include startup): 650 RPM
Revenant Rof: 650 RPM
Typhoon 10: 650 RPM

Typhoon Clip size and Capacity: 100; 422
Revenant Clip size and Capacity: 60; 480
Typhoon 10: 100; 500

Typhoon Burst DPS: 750.8
Revenant Burst DPS: 861.3 THIS is were the Rev shines, in short burstfire.
Typhoon 10: 887.7  But at X the Typhoon still wins.

Typhoon Sustained DPS: 565.9 THIS is where the Typoon lives, full bore, wild fire.
Revenant Sustained DPS: 565.3
Typhoon 10: 669. and becomes king of Sustained DPS in the relm of Assault Rifles.

OH...one more thing...the Revenant and the Typhoon not only have the same RoF (even with the start-up) but they have the SAME reload times; 2.9 seconds.

edit: Another thing, the Typhoon has inate armor piercing, which allows it to deal more damage to armored targets WITHOUT the AP mod.

The only weapons i can think of that out SDPS the Typhoon are the Piranha and the Harrier. And the Piranha's accuracy is soo low you have to be in their face to do that kind of damage. The Typhoon is a range weapon.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 04 août 2012 - 08:13 .

[jerrmy12]

so? an U.R. should have highest dps

[Asebstos]

Why would you bump this when Eric Fagnan posted a link in here to a stickied thread discussing the Typhoon?

[Decc2k25]

Poop, that is all

[Atheosis]

PKTracer wrote...

Eric... While I respect the fact that BW tested this weapon, to say it's *incredibly powerful* is hyperbole. Please read Sp3c7er's remarks as well as many other people's remarks. The Typhoon is good, but it isn't as good as it once was, by a fair amount. I have tested it, the Revenant X and the Harrier, and I can definitely feel a difference post-nerf. In the post, BW discusses that the Typhoon *far outclasses* other weapons. Again, this is hyperbole. A Reegar can melt a Phantom faster than a GI melee build's Heavy Melee, and the Piranha is light and outputs a very high dps. I think it would be interesting for some BW devs to join players in game and do this with the community. You will see that the Typhoon, while not nerfed to uselessness, hardly warrants the superlatives that the thread in your post states.  And please consider the fact that most people: 1) don't have it;  2) certainly don't have it at level X; 3) It has a ramp-up time, and 4) The player is exposed while using it.

5) Is so heavy that only a handful of classes really benefit from using it.

[xsdob]

GOOD FOR YOU, WHY ARE we CAPITALIZING OUT LETTERS?

[Lord Rosario]

Ramsutin wrote...

So it has good DPS, gets 50% damage multiplier against shields, armor and barriers, has a large clip. On the other hand it is heavy and has 5 bullet (?) ramp up time.
.....
And you also have the Destroyer.
My reaction:
http://i.imgur.com/MyGV2.gif

You know, the geth marshmallow shooter does all those things too without the 5 bullet ramp up. Is that gun op too?

[Baerdface]

Multiplayer was fun till it hit rock bottom. Uninstalled already. Bye.
Bioware listens too much to whiners and "balances" the game in ways it shouldn't be balanced instead of making changes that would add to games' fun and longetivity. "DEAR BLIZZARD" all over again. 

15 GB of hard drive free now, yay!

Modifié par Baerdface, 05 août 2012 - 08:52 .

[Poison_Berrie]

Baerdface wrote...

Bioware listens too much to whiners 

Translation: "I need someone to blame, so I'm going to assume that BioWare has neither their own data gathering techniques nor can they read posts that share my opinion."

[Saradas85]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...
Typhoon 10: 669. and becomes king of Sustained DPS in the relm of Assault Rifles.

lol good luck with that

[LegionofRannoch]

jerrmy12 wrote...

 decreased multipler from 2.0 to 1.5thats like 70 dmg or less?THANKS FOR RUINING AN UR!

over reacting..

[WiqidBritt]

I'm pretty sure that "50% damage bonus to shields barriers and armor" mean that it does indeed do more damage to boss level enemies than the revenant, the only thing it doesn't is red health, which ain't a big deal

Modifié par WiqidBritt, 05 août 2012 - 11:00 .

[Barge6000]

very underwhelmed when I unlocked this gun yesterday, it sounded just like what I was looking for

[FeralJester616]

Optimistman wrote...

And tell me.......WHATS wrong with a RARE outperforming an ULTRA-RARE? Isn't that the point of RARES? They are so much harder to get than ULTRA-RARES anyways!!!!!! Use the revenant and stop crying just because they nerfed an actual good assault rifle to be on the level of a mediocre one. Pshhh.........noobs these days.

There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start...

[DJepic112]

Bioware nerfed it to hell. I hate the people who do multiplayer balances. You guys should be fired.

[Rifneno]

Ramsutin wrote...

So it has good DPS, gets 50% damage multiplier against shields, armor and barriers, has a large clip. On the other hand it is heavy and has 5 bullet (?) ramp up time.
.....
And you also have the Destroyer.
My reaction:
http://i.imgur.com/MyGV2.gif

I like you mentioned "it has good dps", then the bonuses. Do you actually think its dps sans mods and bonuses is good?

Typhoon
----------
Damage: 44.4-55.5
Rate of Fire: 250-650

Locust, the worst "weapon" in the galaxy
----------
Damage: 34.3-42.8
Rate of Fire: 550

If you've got a locust at 10, and who doesn't, the low rank typhoon without the bonuses is a minor upgrade.

I'd give you my reaction, but I can't find anything condescending enough for that nonsense you just puked at us.

LegionofRannoch wrote...

jerrmy12 wrote...

decreased multipler from 2.0 to 1.5thats like 70 dmg or less?THANKS FOR RUINING AN UR!

over reacting..

Underreacting since he didn't mention parsing clearly shows it's doing way the hell less than 75% of its former self. It's more about 50%, which for those of you keeping score at home is worse than what the krysae took.

[Asebstos]

Who uses weapons without mods? Is that a thing people are doing?

[WiqidBritt]

Rifneno wrote...

Ramsutin wrote...

So it has good DPS, gets 50% damage multiplier against shields, armor and barriers, has a large clip. On the other hand it is heavy and has 5 bullet (?) ramp up time.
.....
And you also have the Destroyer.
My reaction:
http://i.imgur.com/MyGV2.gif

I like you mentioned "it has good dps", then the bonuses. Do you actually think its dps sans mods and bonuses is good?

Typhoon
----------
Damage: 44.4-55.5
Rate of Fire: 250-650

Locust, the worst "weapon" in the galaxy
----------
Damage: 34.3-42.8
Rate of Fire: 550

If you've got a locust at 10, and who doesn't, the low rank typhoon without the bonuses is a minor upgrade.

I'd give you my reaction, but I can't find anything condescending enough for that nonsense you just puked at us.

LegionofRannoch wrote...

jerrmy12 wrote...

decreased multipler from 2.0 to 1.5thats like 70 dmg or less?THANKS FOR RUINING AN UR!

over reacting..

Underreacting since he didn't mention parsing clearly shows it's doing way the hell less than 75% of its former self. It's more about 50%, which for those of you keeping score at home is worse than what the krysae took.

I like how you don't mention either the 150% damage boost when ramped up, or the extra 50% damage bonus it gets versus resistances.
nope, much simpler to just take the lowest most basic numbers you can to prove your point.

[Rifneno]

Asebstos wrote...

Who uses weapons without mods? Is that a thing people are doing?

No, I meant without modifiers like the supposed 50% bonus I'm still not convinced it even has.

WiqidBritt wrote...

I like how you don't mention either the 150% damage boost when ramped up, or the extra 50% damage bonus it gets versus resistances.
nope, much simpler to just take the lowest most basic numbers you can to prove your point.

Learn. To. Read. I specifically said that's without the mod(ifier)s because he mentioned its "great dps" seperately from them, as if it had great dps without them.

Reading. Learn to do it.

[Asebstos]

Rifneno wrote...
Learn. To. Read. I specifically said that's without the mod(ifier)s because he mentioned its "great dps" seperately from them, as if it had great dps without them.

Reading. Learn to do it.

You sound like a real cool guy. You should be proud of your ability to have an intelligent discourse with people that disagree with you and not come across like a total ******. For reals.


Here's what that previous guy said:

So it has good DPS, gets 50% damage multiplier against shields, armor and barriers, has a large clip. On the other hand it is heavy and has 5 bullet (?) ramp up time.

Yes, not the best worded sentence, but if you really think that guy meant to say this:

"It has good DPS, indepenent of the 50% damage multiplier against defenses and when not ramped up"

Then I think its you that has a problem with reading comprehension.

Modifié par Asebstos, 05 août 2012 - 12:14 .

[xWARx DEMON]

PKTracer wrote...

Eric... While I respect the fact that BW tested this weapon, to say it's *incredibly powerful* is hyperbole. Please read Sp3c7er's remarks as well as many other people's remarks. The Typhoon is good, but it isn't as good as it once was, by a fair amount. I have tested it, the Revenant X and the Harrier, and I can definitely feel a difference post-nerf. In the post, BW discusses that the Typhoon *far outclasses* other weapons. Again, this is hyperbole. A Reegar can melt a Phantom faster than a GI melee build's Heavy Melee, and the Piranha is light and outputs a very high dps. I think it would be interesting for some BW devs to join players in game and do this with the community. You will see that the Typhoon, while not nerfed to uselessness, hardly warrants the superlatives that the thread in your post states.  And please consider the fact that most people: 1) don't have it;  2) certainly don't have it at level X; 3) It has a ramp-up time, and 4) The player is exposed while using it.

THIS

Omg bioware, please listen to the sane/fair/unoffensive comment this honest player has made. I need not say anything, pretty much sums it all up!