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#51
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Master Xanthan wrote...

Kuriiiiiii wrote...

Shut up


Well this was a HUGE contribution to the discussion right here. (sarcasm). So has anybody tested out the gun after the nerf yet?


Pretty huge impact. Take about 25-30% as long to kill stuff, which means you're out of cover that much longer. Been rendered useless on plat and gold, even on a destroyer. You're actually better off taking the revenant or Harrier now. Pretty goddamn hilarious that Light MACHINE GUN does less damage than an assault rifle or SMG.

Head scratchingly obtuse.

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Im torn because its still twice as accurate as the revenant and has much less recoil and armor piercing like black widow.


Dammit, the point of UR is you're not supposed to have to think!

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

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its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


Dude. Just stop. The gun came out 2 weeks ago and has been nerfed every week. UR guns should have that rarity for reason and statistically the Revenant is now better. Pretty dumb. Just like you. 

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

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Math wasn't your strongest subject in school, huh?


It is actually. 94 on state tests thank you very much. Image IPB


Your math is still wrong.  The gun suffered a 25% decrease in damage multipliers.  

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Of all the nerfs BW has done over the course of this game, this Typhoon nerf makes the least sense...

A 25% reduction in overall damage is insane! Why did they do this? There was no valid reason for this. Hardly anyone has the blasted thing in the first place, for goodness sake!

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


What? We should be greatful that BW decides to completely ruin one of the few "good" or "viable" guns left in the AR pile? That they added in a neglible 10% shield penetration? Gave incredibly tiny buffs to semi-useless powers (i.e. incinerate) and incredibly huge buffs to entirely USELESS (pull) powers? No, I don't think so.

Oh, and for the record, the Indra buff puts the damage per shot and dps of the rifle BELOW that of the raptor, the semi-automatic sniperifle. Which is a RARE.
/facepalm

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Op, have you even used the Typhoon since the nerf?


Check the stats I posted. They don't lie.


The Revenant is far less accurate than the Typhoon-good stats though and BTW I have a Typhoon X ;) 


Well, this mainly applies to all the players out there that don't have the gun, but also you to a small degree. What the nerf did is make the gun essentially MARGINALLY better than its competitor, the Revenant, in terms of dps. In fact, the revenant out-DPS's the Typhoon up to a certain point, and even when the Typhoon reaches a level at which it does more damage per shot than the Revenant, it is BARELY enough to warrant using the gun at all considering that you have to charge the weapon up before the damage bonus even kicks in. Compared with the revenant, which starts firing at max damage/rof immediately, the only thing that the Typhoon can boast over the Revenant really is its innate armor reduction (easily fixed by ammos/powers/mods) that makes it a far less attractive weapon to use.

TLDR for most players, the Typhoon is no longer an upgrade untill it reaches an abnormously high level. Even then, other AR's (and even smgs) can easily compete with it.


Wish I had the gun so I could contribute with first hand knowledge, but I've seen plenty of vids, and it does seem much more accurate than the Revenant.  It also seems to have a much higher ROF once revved which would contribute to overall DPS.  I'm guessing that it won't be as bad as everyone is crying about.

Can anyone test this and spread the wisdom?

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


Oh then I really should kiss their knees,cause they are so great. They speak much about letting developers decide how the game looks like and plays,about their creative rights etc, but that obviously is not the same for the MP team,who only listens to a bunch of constantly crying jelaous losers without this weapons. Where's creative freedom?!

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i tested it on gold 10min ago, its still pretty good, but the nerf wasnt necesarry, they should buff the damage by 4-7 then.

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Eriseley wrote...

JxLegend wrote...

Im torn because its still twice as accurate as the revenant and has much less recoil and armor piercing like black widow.


Dammit, the point of UR is you're not supposed to have to think!


Yeah i havet had a chance to play a game with it again since the change but its one of my favorites so i guess ill just need to test it out. 

Its prety mesed up that my buddy does not even have one yet and its been nerfed twice.

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


How does that protect their balance changes from criticism?  

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Nerfing UR weapon... Clearly shows how retarded Bioware could be.

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Immortal Strife wrote...

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Op, have you even used the Typhoon since the nerf?


Check the stats I posted. They don't lie.


The Revenant is far less accurate than the Typhoon-good stats though and BTW I have a Typhoon X ;) 


Well, this mainly applies to all the players out there that don't have the gun, but also you to a small degree. What the nerf did is make the gun essentially MARGINALLY better than its competitor, the Revenant, in terms of dps. In fact, the revenant out-DPS's the Typhoon up to a certain point, and even when the Typhoon reaches a level at which it does more damage per shot than the Revenant, it is BARELY enough to warrant using the gun at all considering that you have to charge the weapon up before the damage bonus even kicks in. Compared with the revenant, which starts firing at max damage/rof immediately, the only thing that the Typhoon can boast over the Revenant really is its innate armor reduction (easily fixed by ammos/powers/mods) that makes it a far less attractive weapon to use.

TLDR for most players, the Typhoon is no longer an upgrade untill it reaches an abnormously high level. Even then, other AR's (and even smgs) can easily compete with it.


Wish I had the gun so I could contribute with first hand knowledge, but I've seen plenty of vids, and it does seem much more accurate than the Revenant.  It also seems to have a much higher ROF once revved which would contribute to overall DPS.  I'm guessing that it won't be as bad as everyone is crying about.

Can anyone test this and spread the wisdom?


The RoF of the Typhoon is 650 I believe when revved up, exactly the same as the revenant.

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Kuriiiiiii wrote...

Shut up

Right back at you. If that's your only input, then would you kindly (and permanently) Image IPB

On topic: I've just been on, and used the Typhoon for a Giant/Reaper/Gold game. Can't say I notice a difference, but I don't use it much anyway.

Modifié par Prawny, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:02 .


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If only someone had a GIF of the scene in the first Predator when Bill duke grabs Ventura's Mini-gun and mows down the entire jungle...
"I GOOOOOOTCHA!!!!!!!!!"

Modifié par mybudgee, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:02 .


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Lol you guys are so mad. xD And sorry my math is wrong, that 25% is totally a reason to insult other forumites, rage at Bioware, and make a thread about how useless a weapon is now.

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Reapinger wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


Dude. Just stop. The gun came out 2 weeks ago and has been nerfed every week. UR guns should have that rarity for reason and statistically the Revenant is now better. Pretty dumb. Just like you. 


This.

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Any of you guys check out the most recent nerf to the N7 Typhoon? "2x damage multplier has gone down to 1.5x"

It's pretty bad. Let's compare it to the revenant, the AR most similar to it, in detail. At rank 1 of the Typhoon, the gun does 44 damage per round that goes up to 61.6 damage per round. Which is, coincidentally LESS damage than a similar rank 1 revenant (63.6 damage) per round. It takes several upgrades for the Typhoon to outdamage the revenant, and does 83.25 damage per round at level 10, ONLY 3.75 more damage than a revenant 10. And that's only when the Typhoon is full revved up....

And please tell me, who around here actually thinks they'll get a lvl 10 Typhoon anytime soon?

Well.... that sucks. The piranha remains as the most damaging weapon in the game, and the ASSUALT RIFLE, ONE OF THE FEW ACTUALLY GOOD ARs IN THE GAME, gets a damage nerf.

/facepalm


You appear to be some sort of uninformed person.

The typhoon recieved a multiplier nerf for its fully revved damage. It still outclasses the revenant in everyway and still stands as one of the best ARs stop crying. The only difference now is that now weapon classes without damage debuffs can melt atlases in 3 seconds like my demolisher was. Now the team actually gets to help me.

Dat nerf doesnt matter at all to weapon master classes.

Modifié par darkblade, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:06 .


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JusticarFlareon wrote...

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Math wasn't your strongest subject in school, huh?


It is actually. 94 on state tests thank you very much. Image IPB


Well, then you don't know how to apply it.   The max rate of fire of the gun was changed by a factor of 2.0 x normal to 1.5 X normal.   That is a 50/200 = 25% reduction in max damage output.

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

Lol you guys are so mad. xD And sorry my math is wrong, that 25% is totally a reason to insult other forumites, rage at Bioware, and make a thread about how useless a weapon is now.


Posts a pic belittling others because it doesn't understand 2nd grade math.
Cries like a little girl with a skinned knee because someone insulted it for its trolling and incredible failure at the most basic math.

Seems legit.  And by legit, I mean a hypocrite so massive as to have its own gravity.

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

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Math wasn't your strongest subject in school, huh?


It is actually. 94 on state tests thank you very much. Image IPB


Hurrah for the American Public Education system...
(I'm not bashing it (too much), my wife's a teacher.)

In any case, I'll give you a hint. If something did 200% damage at full RoF, and now only does 150% damage at full RoF, it didn't actually lose just 0.5%.

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JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


hard to appreciate it when you dont have the damn thing. i dont have any of the wepons or the Destroyer they "balanced"

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Reapinger wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


Dude. Just stop. The gun came out 2 weeks ago and has been nerfed every week. UR guns should have that rarity for reason and statistically the Revenant is now better. Pretty dumb. Just like you. 


Resorting to insults... how childish.

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I'm sad, but I still like it. Should of been 1.75 instead.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...

vinlandhammer wrote...

dddawda wrote...

its a freaking Ultra Rare LMG...its supposed to be strong...


sadly nerfherders are half way to make ultra rares weaker as common weapons........ so on each patch makes this rare-ultra rare category a joke........

And the buffs (including the Indra one) are nothing? Just more nerfs? To be honest, you should appreciate the buffs because Bioware could decide to not buff anything next week.


Dude. Just stop. The gun came out 2 weeks ago and has been nerfed every week. UR guns should have that rarity for reason and statistically the Revenant is now better. Pretty dumb. Just like you. 


Resorting to insults... how childish.

You have a... well