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[SimulatedSnowman]

I think that the Typhoon was designed to be a Soldier's assault rifle, and it still seems effective as such.

[AbhijitSM]

GroverA125 wrote...

is 1.5x really that much on the Typhoon? Considering that it has about half the damage of the Harrier per bullet, and 100 per mag unmodified, that still seems pretty effective to me. Mind you, still don't have the damn thing, so can't really say much. the decrease in damage is theoretically only 25% (except it's less than that, most likely) and if it was apparently mashing up bosses like no tomorrow before, I feel that it'll still leave a dent in them.

If someone could get some proper numbers on-scene, that would make this a lot easier to understand, as both an external observer and an internal observer.

What do you mean by "only 25%" ???????

[curly haired boy]

way to go, bioware. you just can't give us decent semi-auto ARs, can you? back to the saber.

[GroverA125]

Rifneno wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

is 1.5x really that much on the Typhoon? Considering that it has about half the damage of the Harrier per bullet, and 100 per mag unmodified, that still seems pretty effective to me. Mind you, still don't have the damn thing, so can't really say much. the decrease in damage is theoretically only 25% (except it's less than that, most likely) and if it was apparently mashing up bosses like no tomorrow before, I feel that it'll still leave a dent in them.

If someone could get some proper numbers on-scene, that would make this a lot easier to understand, as both an external observer and an internal observer.

I lol'd at the "only" 25%.

Way I see it, if something's dealing 200% more than everything else and it recieve a debuff, then you're still over the 100% marker. God bless optimism.

[Asebstos]

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

[Asebstos]

curly haired boy wrote...

way to go, bioware. you just can't give us decent semi-auto ARs, can you? back to the saber.

Huh?

[GroverA125]

Asebstos wrote...

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

After which, would you kindly test it against other well-reknowned ultra-rare ARs such as the Harrier, Saber and Particle rifle and come back to us on it's effectiveness? I'd like to see it against the other weapons that are respected out there. I'd like a fair trial. Comparing it to the Revvie is a little harsh.

[Rifneno]

GroverA125 wrote...

Way I see it, if something's dealing 200% more than everything else and it recieve a debuff, then you're still over the 100% marker. God bless optimism.

You should change that to "God bless ignorance," because that's the particular flavor of bliss you're using.  The way you just made up those numbers kind of gives it away.

The way I see it, you're almost as bad at math as JusticarFlaron.  The pirahna, a very light rare, already outdps'd the heavy as an anvil UR typhoon.

[Rifneno]

GroverA125 wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

After which, would you kindly test it against other well-reknowned ultra-rare ARs such as the Harrier, Saber and Particle rifle and come back to us on it's effectiveness? I'd like to see it against the other weapons that are respected out there. I'd like a fair trial. Comparing it to the Revvie is a little harsh.

Jesus Christ.  Did you just say the Prothean Laser Pointer is a renowned and respected UR?

[xtorma]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

Lol you guys are so mad. xD And sorry my math is wrong, that 25% is totally a reason to insult other forumites, rage at Bioware, and make a thread about how useless a weapon is now.

Your meme was an insult wasn't it?

[vinlandhammer]

this week 25% is better then last week 75% nerf

[steverw1975]

Mgamerz wrote...

WAit, you mean I will actually be able to kill and contribute to the team since the Typhoon CAN'T KILL EVERYTHING!?

What game were you playing. As somone who has used the Typhoon a fair amount, I can tell you that it took some time to get those kills. During that time I lost quite a few kills to people using weapons that did less damage. I was fine with that. I'm just saying that the Typhoon wasn't really the best way to kill everything. Having my demolisher spam arc grenades or my shadow spam electric slash is a much more efficient way to rack up the kills. Even before this change the Harrier was a better weapon as long as you could keep it loaded. The only advantages the Typhoon had over the Harrier was ammo capacity and it did better at greater ranges. Considering the fact that it seemed to take about two-thirds or more of a 100 round magazine to take down a pyro on gold, I just don't understand why anyone felt the need to nerf it. Not whining, just puzzled.

Modifié par steverw1975, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:43 .

[Asebstos]

Rifneno wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

After which, would you kindly test it against other well-reknowned ultra-rare ARs such as the Harrier, Saber and Particle rifle and come back to us on it's effectiveness? I'd like to see it against the other weapons that are respected out there. I'd like a fair trial. Comparing it to the Revvie is a little harsh.

Jesus Christ.  Did you just say the Prothean Laser Pointer is a renowned and respected UR?

I LoL'd.

It was a joke, right?

My Harrier is V and my Saber is IV I think so I'm not sure how fair a comparison it'd be, but I can check.

[ryoldschool]

its THAT guy wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

is 1.5x really that much on the Typhoon? Considering that it has about half the damage of the Harrier per bullet, and 100 per mag unmodified, that still seems pretty effective to me. Mind you, still don't have the damn thing, so can't really say much. the decrease in damage is theoretically only 25% (except it's less than that, most likely) and if it was apparently mashing up bosses like no tomorrow before, I feel that it'll still leave a dent in them.

If someone could get some proper numbers on-scene, that would make this a lot easier to understand, as both an external observer and an internal observer.

Gun's base damage stands at 44.4 and goes to 55.5 at max. 2x multiplier was what made the gun effective, not its base damage. And now, the gun does even less daamage when revved than a revenant...

If this is true, then its total bs.

Comparing the revenant to the Typhoon

(1) Does the Typhoon have better stability than the Revenant?
(2) Since Typhoon has innate armor piercing you don't need an armor piercing mod on it.  On Revenant I always put ap mod on it.

So I would be comparing these:

Typhoon with extended ammo + EB , armor stability mod  III
Revenant with extended ammo + AP mod, armor stability mod III

Would want to look at the damage output for these two set-ups and if the revenant was as stable as the typhoon.  Anyone know?

[xtorma]

Is the the worst nerf to a weapon , as far as damage so far? I don;t really keep up because what is done is done, and I just sorta sigh and move on.

[ArtGerhardt]

I thought the typhoon was more OP and the Pirhanna. The shotgun does insane damage but you gotta get close if you're using the destroyer you can easily get nabbed by a phantom and if your a Gi then you made from balsa wood.

The typhoon grinded down bosses faster than almost every gun and worked from across the map. I'm gonna use it soon to see how the nerf works.

[joker_jack]

Just tried the typhoon out now and the damage is all over the place. Might just go back to the harrier. And a friendly reminder to trolls you can be banned for harassment.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

its THAT guy wrote...

darkblade wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Any of you guys check out the most recent nerf to the N7 Typhoon? "2x damage multplier has gone down to 1.5x"

It's pretty bad. Let's compare it to the revenant, the AR most similar to it, in detail. At rank 1 of the Typhoon, the gun does 44 damage per round that goes up to 61.6 damage per round. Which is, coincidentally LESS damage than a similar rank 1 revenant (63.6 damage) per round. It takes several upgrades for the Typhoon to outdamage the revenant, and does 83.25 damage per round at level 10, ONLY 3.75 more damage than a revenant 10. And that's only when the Typhoon is full revved up....

And please tell me, who around here actually thinks they'll get a lvl 10 Typhoon anytime soon?

Well.... that sucks. The piranha remains as the most damaging weapon in the game, and the ASSUALT RIFLE, ONE OF THE FEW ACTUALLY GOOD ARs IN THE GAME, gets a damage nerf.

/facepalm

You appear to be some sort of uninformed person.

The typhoon recieved a multiplier nerf for its fully revved damage. It still outclasses the revenant in everyway and still stands as one of the best ARs stop crying. The only difference now is that now weapon classes without damage debuffs can melt atlases in 3 seconds like my demolisher was. Now the team actually gets to help me.

Yes. And what I'm saying at fully revved damage, the Typhoon STILL does less damage than the Revenant at most levels. Less. Damage. Understand? The Typhoon, an UR LMG, now does LESS damage per shot, EVEN when fully revved up, than the revenant when shooting normally at almost every level. And, even when you get the Typhoon to a level where its fully revved damage per shot is higher than the revenant, the difference becomes so minor that the main disadvantage of the Typhoon kicks in (the rev up time), leaving you exposed longer to more incoming fire for longer as you try to burn down you're targets.

For the record, the Typhoon pre-nerf had a fully revved up 88.8 damage per shot, ACTUALLY BEATING the revenant 1 in terms of damage.

Doesn't the Typhoon also have innate 50% Armor Protection Reduction, which gives you more options for attachments?  It also has a larger clip to boot.

Something tells me that it is in no way inferior to the Revenant

[viruz777]

its THAT guy wrote...

And please tell me, who around here actually thinks they'll get a lvl 10 Typhoon anytime soon?

Well.... that sucks. The piranha remains as the most damaging weapon in the game, and the ASSUALT RIFLE, ONE OF THE FEW ACTUALLY GOOD ARs IN THE GAME, gets a damage nerf.

/facepalm

I feel your pain OP. Just when we thought assault rifles got some love, they take it away and laugh at our faces. Sigh. I was eagerly awaiting the day I unlocked the Typhoon I but now I feel less excited for it somehow - coupled with the Devastator mode ROF nerf.

A sad day for Destroyer Typhoon users indeed.

[GroverA125]

Rifneno wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

After which, would you kindly test it against other well-reknowned ultra-rare ARs such as the Harrier, Saber and Particle rifle and come back to us on it's effectiveness? I'd like to see it against the other weapons that are respected out there. I'd like a fair trial. Comparing it to the Revvie is a little harsh.

Jesus Christ.  Did you just say the Prothean Laser Pointer is a renowned and respected UR?

Yes I did, I have played platinum matches with a bunch of players, who I like to think of as part of the skilled bit of the community, who dominated both Gold and Platinum with it, and swore by it. BEFORE the buff. Considering that they walk through platinum like a bunch of FBWGG farmers waltz through their usual matches, I'd like to think that they know what they're doing.

[Atrumitos]

It still has armor piercing by default and it's way more stable too.

Modifié par Atrumitos, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:48 .

[sirjimmus86]

Looks bad, will try it with my newly nerfed Destroyer, and probably realise its not that bad.

Besides, being able to mow down Brutes and their ilk in half a magazine was a bit OTT

[GroverA125]

Asebstos wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Asebstos wrote...

OP complaining about how ineffective a gun he doesn't have is. Makes sense. Going to try out my Typhoon II today and compare it to my Revenant X and form an opinion that isn't purely theoretical.

After which, would you kindly test it against other well-reknowned ultra-rare ARs such as the Harrier, Saber and Particle rifle and come back to us on it's effectiveness? I'd like to see it against the other weapons that are respected out there. I'd like a fair trial. Comparing it to the Revvie is a little harsh.

Jesus Christ.  Did you just say the Prothean Laser Pointer is a renowned and respected UR?

I LoL'd.

It was a joke, right?

My Harrier is V and my Saber is IV I think so I'm not sure how fair a comparison it'd be, but I can check.

Well, every level only provides around a 3% increase to power, so it shouldn't be that significant unless you count 1 less bullet every 12 or so as a massive increase. Even if my numbers are off, it's worth a shot.

[vinlandhammer]

i've used both and i havent noticed any armor protection.

only thing typhoon has better then revenant is the bigger ammo clip, i prefer revenant because have more damage and uses less ammo, only setback is the smaller ammo clip, but if you're a reasonable aim it wont be an issue.