LynxAQ wrote...
If you decline the ritual, Morrigan doesnt have a god child - simple really. There is really no convincing argument to make me think otherwise atm. Otherwise there would not have been the Orlais and not pregnant epilogue in the game.
And thus "The Rift Project" was bornckriley wrote...
I've been thinking about this more and more. I've played through the game a couple times and the more I think about it, the more I realize what a HUGE plot hole the option of giving Morrigan a god child represents.
I mean, it's freaking enormous.
*snip*
Modifié par leewells, 21 décembre 2009 - 02:24 .
TrinityDivine wrote...
On my first playthrough, I was devastated that the dark ritual was the only way for both my character and her love interest (Alistair) to live. To me it was a huge sacrifice on two fronts - on a personal level because I was going to have to convince my guy to spend the night with another woman, and on a bigger scale I was potentially unleashing who-knows-what on an unsuspecting world. All so I could have a few more years of happiness? It seemed so short-sighted that I couldn't bring myself to do it. I imagine I would have been more devastated if it had NOT been optional.
Of course, after I stepped back from the game for a few minutes and wrote a blog on it, that sorta reminded me it was just a game so I went back and guess what? I convinced Alistair to have sex with the swamp witch!
TrinityDivine wrote...
On my first play-through, I was devastated that the dark ritual was the only way for both my character and her love interest (Alistair) to live. To me it was a huge sacrifice on two fronts - on a personal level because I was going to have to convince my guy to spend the night with another woman, and on a bigger scale I was potentially unleashing who-knows-what on an unsuspecting world. All so I could have a few more years of happiness? It seemed so short-sighted that I couldn't bring myself to do it. I imagine I would have been more devastated if it had NOT been optional.
Of course, after I stepped back from the game for a few minutes and wrote a blog on it, that sorta reminded me it was just a game so I went back and guess what? I convinced Alistair to have sex with the swamp witch!
Without sounding to horrible, that is a really silly comment. You slayed the arch demon and your companions just left your body lying cold on the floor whilst they went for lunch?? Sorry but once you decline the ritual, Morrigan has no way of getting close, and NO she couldnt finish the ritual in some bird form, that is getting silly and if the lore did take that pathetic route, I am stating now I will not support it.
If you decline the ritual, Morrigan doesnt have a god child - simple really. There is really no convincing argument to make me think otherwise atm. Otherwise there would not have been the Orlais and not pregnant epilogue in the game.
Actually its said quite clearly its the soul.
Thank you for posting that link! I pretty much agree with everything in your post. It's only unfortunate that everyone else is so wrapped up in the OldGodSoulBaby gimmick that nobody's listening. :'(outlaworacle wrote...
multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/02/11/why-dragon-age-isnt-a-trilogy/
They've said next to nothing about the sequel, but what little they have said suggests it will not in any way continue the storylines of the first game. It was not designed that way. I know people love the baby Old God and I could certainly imagine a DLC detaling how that plot resolves for those of us who want it, but in this and a few other articles, developers have stated they have no plans to continue this story. Even if they did, it'd be a slap in the face to anyone who didn't choose that ending, and the idea of playing as the baby Old God in the next game is so cliche if Bioware pulls that... ugh, well, I have faith that they won't resort to such a bad idea. The beauty of this game is it's open ended nature. When you start making endings canon and forcing everyone into one origin, we're talking about backwards growth there.
Spitball all ya want, just wanted to pop in and tell everyone they are wrong lol
All I've been trying to do it point out that there is no need to make a canonical ending revolving around the PC having a baby with Morrigan simply because the child appears to be the next chapter in the story. I'm not trying to say the way you play doesn't count, I'm saying those of us who feel the best ending and the ending we would choose every time aside from once to see it shouldn't have our stories pigeonholed for the sake of continuity when the option to pass on it was there in the first place (Obviously what the OT was discussing, and I already disagreed because as I've been saying it's possible for the child to come about despite our refusal).It is really simple, you want one, do the ritual, stop coming on the forums and trying to convince everyone that the way we played the game doesn't count as much as the way you did it.
Modifié par TheMadCat, 21 décembre 2009 - 05:00 .
(I refuse to believe she could have planned THAT.)
SarEnyaDor wrote...
*deep impatient sigh*
First off all, the OP started off saying that the Dark Ritual should have been mandatory, and that no matter what you picked to have happen it shouldn't matter.
Second. Riordan is the one who said the stuff about the soul - he said the ESSENCE of the Old God would seek the nearest tainted creature to be reborn in if it is a darkspawn, a soul-less vessel, thus making it immortal. However, after the First Blight (which lasted a HECK of alot longer due to the constant re-birthing of the archdemon) the guys up in the Anderfells figured out the cycle and created the ritual to taint themselves becomming the first Grey Wardens so that when the ESSENCE of the old God fled the archdemon's dead body it would enter the grey Warden and thus be destroyed, killing the Grey Warden in the process.
Now, I get you guys REALLY want Morrigan to have your baby, fine, do the ritual. But there are 3 other endings which are just as (if not more as it is 3 to 1) valid as that one ending.
If you had sex with Morrigan in camp, she may be pregnant, but it is not an Old God baby, DG has come on here and said that before. If you never had sex with her, or were female there is NO BABY at all, Morrigan is in Orlais. the ONLY WAY you are getting an Old God baby is if you do the ritual and no Wardens died - if there is a dead Loghain/Alistair/You there is NO OLD GOD BABY.
It is really simple, you want one, do the ritual, stop coming on the forums and trying to convince everyone that the way we played the game doesn't count as much as the way you did it.
Interesting, that never came up as a male. Maybe a bluff, maybe the ritual was more dangerous, maybe the child would be more dangerous. I don't know, all I do know is I hope they don't completely ignore all other endings if this is indeed the next chapter of the story. I hate being given choices only to be pigeonholed into one for whatever reason.Uh, she said, very clearly, that Riordan couldn't be part of the ritual (I told her to talk to him, leave my boyfriend alone), but he'd been tainted too long and was unsuitable for the ritual.
Flemeth apparently really lucked out that two junior Grey Wardens were on the top of that tower, and not more senior ones.
Modifié par TheMadCat, 21 décembre 2009 - 03:51 .
Sialater wrote...
Flemeth apparently really lucked out that two junior Grey Wardens were on the top of that tower, and not more senior ones.
Sidney wrote...
Sialater wrote...
Flemeth apparently really lucked out that two junior Grey Wardens were on the top of that tower, and not more senior ones.
No but did Duncan suspect something of Lohgain's treason and he wanted to ensure that at least SOME of the Warden's might live?
TheMadCat wrote...
Cailan was the one who ordered them both to the tower, not Duncan.
tallon1982 wrote...
Technically it's Cailan that sends both wardens but Duncan gets the credit lol.
I swear the Grey Wardens are the Jedi Knights of Ferelden lol
Sidney wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
Cailan was the one who ordered them both to the tower, not Duncan.
I assume Cailan doesn't have a thought in his empty head other than what Duncan or Loghain poured into it.
Where's the link for this? I really want Gaider's quote on hand as ammunition for the next time a thread like this pops up.SarEnyaDor wrote...
If you had sex with Morrigan in camp, she may be pregnant, but it is not an Old God baby, DG has come on here and said that before.
Modifié par Squiggles1334, 21 décembre 2009 - 04:55 .
But Maric seemed like such a pragmatic and shrewd king. Perhaps the brainy genes alternate generations? I mean, I might like Alistair as a character and such, but I would never in a hundred years ever unironically refer to him as particularly bright.robertthebard wrote...
Actually, and it really pains me to admit this considering I think Cailin was kinda short on wits
Modifié par Squiggles1334, 21 décembre 2009 - 04:58 .
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