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[RadicalDisconnect]

Quantum entanglement communicators rely on quantum pairs that always share the same quantum state. Thus, shouldn't communications via quantum bits be immune to traditional electromagnetic jamming?

The only disadvantage to QEC's is their point-to-point nature means that you need a lot of quantum entangled pairs to have comms with all ships. Mathematically, it's N(N + 1) number of pairs (two pairs for two-way comms), where N is the number of ships you want in your network. It can potentially be costly and inefficient.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 01 août 2012 - 10:54 .

[devSin]

I'd wait for somebody with real expertise in physics, but yes, assuming this worked as described (according to real-world quantum mechanics), it should probably not be susceptible to any form of interference.

Nothing is being transmitted. The same thing is happening in two different places.

[AlanC9]

If your end of the pair is actually on your ship, yeah, there'd be no jamming possible.

[xsdob]

When was quantum entanglement jammed?

[RadicalDisconnect]

xsdob wrote...

When was quantum entanglement jammed?

Beginning with Admiral Hackett.

[David7204]

Traditional jamming, probably. But there might be some other clever way to do it.

Why does this matter?

Modifié par David7204, 01 août 2012 - 10:58 .

[David7204]

Beginning with Hackett?

[F4H bandicoot]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

xsdob wrote...

When was quantum entanglement jammed?

Beginning with Admiral Hackett.

When going to mars?? I don't think they were using the QEC's there

[RadicalDisconnect]

David7204 wrote...

Beginning with Hackett?

When you leave Mars and talk to Hackett on the QEC, there was quite a bit of "interference" at the beginning.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 01 août 2012 - 10:59 .

[devSin]

The whole idea of it is silly. Everybody in the galaxy has a QEC paired with the Normandy now.

Just make up some excuse. The game is full of things that are absurd.

Modifié par devSin, 01 août 2012 - 11:02 .

[xsdob]

Was it confirmed that he was using quantum entanglement during that scene?

[justafan]

It shouldn't be able to be jammed in the conventional sense, but if you were able to screw with the machinery interpreting the quantum state, you could achieve an effect similar to jamming.

[David7204]

'Interference' could mean a lot of things. I don't know much about signal processing, but there's a hell of a lot of things to take into account.

[David7204]

'Interference' could mean a lot of things. I don't know much about signal processing, but there's a hell of a lot of things to take into account.

[F4H bandicoot]

David7204 wrote...

'Interference' could mean a lot of things. I don't know much about signal processing, but there's a hell of a lot of things to take into account.

There is no signal though.

[JamesFaith]

Didn't they say that Earth is jammed except few QEC there?

[ZerebusPrime]

Yeah, like duplication errors.

Hackett may simply not have finished relocating himself to a ship/station with proper QEC C&C set up.

[David7204]

A signal is any function that conveys information about the behavior or attributes of some phenomenon. So yes, it is a signal.

[RadicalDisconnect]

devSin wrote...

The whole idea of it is silly. Everybody in the galaxy has a QEC paired with the Normandy now.

Just make up some excuse. The game is full of things that are absurd.

What's even funnier is that Anderson was able to communicate to the Normandy using random QEC's on Earth. Oh, and in London, you have a handy-dandy QEC that apparently has quantum pairs with all your previous squadmates. What, does the ME universe have quantum triplets? Quantum qradruplets?

[RadicalDisconnect]

F4H bandicoot wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

xsdob wrote...

When was quantum entanglement jammed?

Beginning with Admiral Hackett.

When going to mars?? I don't think they were using the QEC's there

No, when leaving Mars. When Hackett first talks, there was some interference. Unless the Alliance is epically retarded to not shield electronics, then there's not reason for that interference to occur. That is, unless in the ME universe they found some new physical phenomenon that can be exploited to interfere with QEC's.

[David7204]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

devSin wrote...

The whole idea of it is silly. Everybody in the galaxy has a QEC paired with the Normandy now.

Just make up some excuse. The game is full of things that are absurd.

What's even funnier is that Anderson was able to communicate to the Normandy using random QEC's on Earth. Oh, and in London, you have a handy-dandy QEC that apparently has quantum pairs with all your previous squadmates. What, does the ME universe have quantum triplets? Quantum qradruplets?

Oh my God. Why don't you use your brain for a minute? Just because the fundamental core of the system is point-to-point doesn't mean it can't be rerouted through regular lightspeed or FTL communications.

[F4H bandicoot]

David7204 wrote...

A signal is any function that conveys information about the behavior or attributes of some phenomenon. So yes, it is a signal.

No information is conveyed though. 

[RadicalDisconnect]

David7204 wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

devSin wrote...

The whole idea of it is silly. Everybody in the galaxy has a QEC paired with the Normandy now.

Just make up some excuse. The game is full of things that are absurd.

What's even funnier is that Anderson was able to communicate to the Normandy using random QEC's on Earth. Oh, and in London, you have a handy-dandy QEC that apparently has quantum pairs with all your previous squadmates. What, does the ME universe have quantum triplets? Quantum qradruplets?

Oh my God. Why don't you use your brain for a minute? Just because the fundamental core of the system is point-to-point doesn't mean it can't be rerouted through regular lightspeed or FTL communications.

Learn a bit of physics...

When talking to Anderson on the Normandy, it's clearly real-time communications. That means it's definitely not lightspeed comms via electromagnetic signals, since the Normandy and Earth can be thousands of light years away. QEC's and comm buoys are the only interstellar comms known, and as far as I know, only QEC's are instantaneous real-time comms.

I'm also stating that point-to-point QEC comms seem really costly and inefficient to me based on the mathematics. Again, that is unless the ME universe circumvents currently known quantum physics by having quantum triplets or quadruplets or more.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 07 décembre 2012 - 06:25 .

[David7204]

What exactly do you think communication is? It's the conveying of information.

[David7204]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

David7204 wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

devSin wrote...

The whole idea of it is silly. Everybody in the galaxy has a QEC paired with the Normandy now.

Just make up some excuse. The game is full of things that are absurd.

What's even funnier is that Anderson was able to communicate to the Normandy using random QEC's on Earth. Oh, and in London, you have a handy-dandy QEC that apparently has quantum pairs with all your previous squadmates. What, does the ME universe have quantum triplets? Quantum qradruplets?

Oh my God. Why don't you use your brain for a minute? Just because the fundamental core of the system is point-to-point doesn't mean it can't be rerouted through regular lightspeed or FTL communications.

Learn a bit of physics...

When talking to Anderson on the Normandy, it's clearly real-time communications. That means it's definitely not lightspeed comms via electromagnetic signals. QEC's and comm buoys are the only FTL comms known, and as far as I know, only QEC's are instantaneous real-time comms.

Oh, so I guess when to speak to someone in real time on the phone, it must involve quantum physics since real time communication without it is impossible. Is that right?

The answer is stupidly simple. The QEC connects to a station on Earth instantly, which in turn rerouts it using conventional lightspeed signals to wherever Anderson is and vice-versa.

Modifié par David7204, 01 août 2012 - 11:13 .