I thought he was horrible but to each is own
Why the hate for Kai Leng?
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#128
Posté 12 août 2012 - 02:29
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Kai Leng was bad writing striking again. His lines were moronic, and his overall character was just very forgettable.
I'm pretty sure I forgot he was even in the game at multiple points throughout my first time playing.
I'm pretty sure I forgot he was even in the game at multiple points throughout my first time playing.
#129
Posté 12 août 2012 - 02:49
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babymoon wrote...
Kai Leng was bad writing striking again. His lines were moronic, and his overall character was just very forgettable.
I'm pretty sure I forgot he was even in the game at multiple points throughout my first time playing.
I didn't forget him. I thought he was a great character, especially since I'd been reading the books - that's where he first appears - so it was great to finally see him in-game.
#130
Posté 12 août 2012 - 03:10
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I don't hate him. Just wish the guy had some motivations of his own
Saren was an indoctrinated villain done right. Kai Leng on the other hand...you can't tell if he's indoctrinated or just stupid.
Saren was an indoctrinated villain done right. Kai Leng on the other hand...you can't tell if he's indoctrinated or just stupid.
#131
Posté 12 août 2012 - 03:11
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Urdnot Amenark wrote...
babymoon wrote...
Kai Leng was bad writing striking again. His lines were moronic, and his overall character was just very forgettable.
I'm pretty sure I forgot he was even in the game at multiple points throughout my first time playing.
I didn't forget him. I thought he was a great character, especially since I'd been reading the books - that's where he first appears - so it was great to finally see him in-game.
Kai Leng in-book and Kai Leng in-game are so monumentally different from each other they may as well be separate entities.
From this day forth, Kai Leng remains in the novels, and his in-game counterpart is really his evil twin brother, Lai Keng.
My word is law.
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Posté 12 août 2012 - 03:12
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He ate all my muesli cereal...
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Posté 12 août 2012 - 03:26
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o Ventus wrote...
Urdnot Amenark wrote...
babymoon wrote...
Kai Leng was bad writing striking again. His lines were moronic, and his overall character was just very forgettable.
I'm pretty sure I forgot he was even in the game at multiple points throughout my first time playing.
I didn't forget him. I thought he was a great character, especially since I'd been reading the books - that's where he first appears - so it was great to finally see him in-game.
Kai Leng in-book and Kai Leng in-game are so monumentally different from each other they may as well be separate entities.
From this day forth, Kai Leng remains in the novels, and his in-game counterpart is really his evil twin brother, Lai Keng.
My word is law.
Your word is law, o Master.
I don't know about anyone else, but the name for my N7 Slayer is Lai Keng.
Anyways, Kai Leng was not forgettable to me, as he plays a pretty pivotal part in the story (leading the Cerberus coup, screwing you over on Thessia, attacking (and possibly killing) the impossibly beautiful Miranda Lawson on Sanctuary, etc.), but he was not done very well.
That being said, I really need to read the books. It's a shame I haven't.
#135
Posté 12 août 2012 - 03:26
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In the 3rd novel, Kai Leng was a big Russian muscled bad-ass who didn't take crap from anybody.
In ME3, Kai Leng is a stupid Japanese cartoon villain who jumped right out of an Japanese anime or manga.
It's like Kai Leng from the book and Kai Leng from the game are 2 completely different characters.
In ME3, Kai Leng is a stupid Japanese cartoon villain who jumped right out of an Japanese anime or manga.
It's like Kai Leng from the book and Kai Leng from the game are 2 completely different characters.
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#136
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:21
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I know I'm late to the party, and sorry for resurrecting the thread but I didn't see the need to create a new one.
I always was wandering where this guy game from. Are you telling me that Bioware took a character out of a ****ing Mass Effect book and put in the game? Are you kidding me?!
I always was wandering where this guy game from. Are you telling me that Bioware took a character out of a ****ing Mass Effect book and put in the game? Are you kidding me?!
#137
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:31
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Kahlee Sanders is also from the book. Kai Leng is too, this version of him is from the book Deception which is a joke.
#138
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:42
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The book thing was for fanservice. Same with Kahlee Sanders and Grissom Academy. I actually recall people were quite excited about getting crossovers with the books before the game launched.
As for Leng himself, I hate him, but it's pretty clear that was the point. Between the email, the smugness, the killing of Thane and the general ****iness, the developers must have realised at some point that they were basically creating a big old hate sink, so they just rolled with it. That's why we got that legendary renegade interrupt at the end of the Cerberus base, which is swiftly becoming their equivalent of the "hug Tali" interrupt in ME2.
As for Leng himself, I hate him, but it's pretty clear that was the point. Between the email, the smugness, the killing of Thane and the general ****iness, the developers must have realised at some point that they were basically creating a big old hate sink, so they just rolled with it. That's why we got that legendary renegade interrupt at the end of the Cerberus base, which is swiftly becoming their equivalent of the "hug Tali" interrupt in ME2.
#139
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:43
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They used the wrong Kai Leng and they failed to make him the anti-Shepard
Retribution Kai Leng was the one they should have used
Retribution Kai Leng was the one they should have used
#140
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:47
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well .. i felt a bit out of place tbh ... i did not read the books or comics.
it is cheap to take characters out of other fiction ... people loike me are at a disadvantage here.
well .. but hearing that kai leng was a decent villian in other fictions, makes me almost feeling sad and cheap that i thrusted the omni-blade into his guts ... and twisted it .. well almost.
it is cheap to take characters out of other fiction ... people loike me are at a disadvantage here.
well .. but hearing that kai leng was a decent villian in other fictions, makes me almost feeling sad and cheap that i thrusted the omni-blade into his guts ... and twisted it .. well almost.
#141
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 09:51
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Kai Leng was too artistic and not so primitive and video gamey as could comprehend all the fans of Mass Effect... shame on US shame on YOU and YOU and YES YOU who´s hiding out there - WE ALL HAVE FAILED TO BE GOOD mindless FANS !
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#142
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:04
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Ah yes, "Kai Leng", we dismissed that claim!
Seriously...
Everyone who is near him becomes as dumb as a drunken rock on crack.
Shepard & Squad just standing. Liara could use a biotic stasis field, or Javik could use his biotics, Hell even Joker and Kelly are better in combat.
Seriously...
Everyone who is near him becomes as dumb as a drunken rock on crack.
Shepard & Squad just standing. Liara could use a biotic stasis field, or Javik could use his biotics, Hell even Joker and Kelly are better in combat.
#143
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:08
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He gave you more reason to hate him than the Illusive Man? Why, because he said nananabooboo in an email? Leng is terrible.
#144
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:20
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"No Gunship this time"
I found this scene FAR better then the "this ones for thane!"
I found this scene FAR better then the "this ones for thane!"
#145
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:23
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Kai Lame and his master TIMY feel like Jessie and James from Team Rocket.
#146
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:30
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At least TIM gets sh*t doneMr.House wrote...
Kai Lame and his master TIMY feel like Jessie and James from Team Rocket.
#147
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:38
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He's a stereotypical asian ninja villain from the 80's, kind of like Jeong was a stereotypical evil corporate asian from the 80's.
I find him mildly offensive, but Bioware has made other normal people who happen to be asian: Fai Dan, Grace Sato, Samesh Bhatia, Samantha Traynor. (Kasumi and Emily fall into the ninja and "good girl" asian stereotypes, respectively. Maeko Matsuo would have ok except for her annoying Japanglish -- "Anoleus-sama"? It's like she stepped out of an 80's cyberpunk novel written by a white guy.)
I find him mildly offensive, but Bioware has made other normal people who happen to be asian: Fai Dan, Grace Sato, Samesh Bhatia, Samantha Traynor. (Kasumi and Emily fall into the ninja and "good girl" asian stereotypes, respectively. Maeko Matsuo would have ok except for her annoying Japanglish -- "Anoleus-sama"? It's like she stepped out of an 80's cyberpunk novel written by a white guy.)
#148
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 10:41
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#149
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 11:36
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he wasnt scary enough to be a villain >
the illusive man is "scary" because of his non-physical power.... intelligence, resources, connections, untouchability. i bet hes a waif in a fistfight.
saren is "scary" because of his physical power! hes a Specter, renowned through the galaxy. big alien soldier who flies a big terrifying space ship that looks like the end of the world. saren is also very intelligent, and is an effective villain.
reapers are scary because of hp lovecraft.
kai leng is not scary in any way because his personality is childish, his appearance is extremely out of place in Mass Effect universe, his glasses are racist, he uses a katana in the 2100s against people who use plasma guns, he has no character or characterization, hes "Bad Guy X" - boring boring boring!
the illusive man is "scary" because of his non-physical power.... intelligence, resources, connections, untouchability. i bet hes a waif in a fistfight.
saren is "scary" because of his physical power! hes a Specter, renowned through the galaxy. big alien soldier who flies a big terrifying space ship that looks like the end of the world. saren is also very intelligent, and is an effective villain.
reapers are scary because of hp lovecraft.
kai leng is not scary in any way because his personality is childish, his appearance is extremely out of place in Mass Effect universe, his glasses are racist, he uses a katana in the 2100s against people who use plasma guns, he has no character or characterization, hes "Bad Guy X" - boring boring boring!
#150
Posté 02 décembre 2012 - 11:49
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Kai leng is a bad character because he's supposed to provide a counterpoint to Shepard, but he's completely unconvincing in that role. His appearance and demeanor aren't even slightly threatening, he would've been much more menacing as a taciturn cyborg, rather than a dispenser of childish insults, who can forget the infamous email he sends you?
