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[BlackCapHoodie]

@ Ashen Earth

off-topic inquiry...but where is that screenshot from? i've seen the class builder and a weapon spreadsheet before but nothing that looked like that.

[Ashen One]

BlackCapHoodie wrote...

@ Ashen Earth

off-topic inquiry...but where is that screenshot from? i've seen the class builder and a weapon spreadsheet before but nothing that looked like that.

Creakazoid's manifest detailer.

You can thank him for this awesome tool here.

[its THAT guy]

The best sniper is the Javelin. Not because of the damage, by the way, its cuz you can troll your squad mates every time you shoot with that really annoying WHIRWHIRWHIR noise.

[Deviean]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Usually I'm not a fan of using thoretical DPS (assuming every bullet hits) to support an argument of one gun being better than another, because a gun on paper, and it's performance in game are two different things

Agreed, that's why i was talking about SI specifically in my post above. ED stagger allows this theoretical DPS to become factual. The Indra is absolutely devastating on Salarian Infiltrator.

To illustrate(from another thread about this gun) :
 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/13454119/1#13457178

[ParkBom]

I like the Indra on casters but the Black Widow has my heart.

[Ashen One]

Deviean wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Usually I'm not a fan of using thoretical DPS (assuming every bullet hits) to support an argument of one gun being better than another, because a gun on paper, and it's performance in game are two different things

Agreed, that's why i was talking about SI specifically in my post above. ED stagger allows this theoretical DPS to become factual. The Indra is absolutely devastating on Salarian Infiltrator.

Yes it is...

It's also downright ridiculous on a Geth Engineer with Hunter Mode specced to further increase the RoF. Stagger/Rip shields with Overload as you would with a SI using ED and anything that isn't a boss unit has no chance.

[DullahansXMark]

WiqidBritt wrote...

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WiqidBritt wrote...

Valiant.

Valiant.

Valiant.

Valiant.

[darkpassenger2342]

ive been using the indra the last couple days and its been a blast.. mostly on QMI.
my indra 4 is substantially outdamaging my BW X. ( it sure feels like it, one clip with sr amp 3 and ap ammo 4 kills or comes close to killing an unbarriered banshee, that would take at least 6 bw shots with the same mods.) its pretty damn fun too.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 03 août 2012 - 05:31 .

[himegoto]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Yes. I admit, I'm horrible at Mass Effect 3.

Anyway, back on topic... the Indra is essentially a fully automatic Incisor with much less recoil, weight, more spare ammo, a larger clip and a faster RoF.



The burst DPS is higher than my Hurricane II, which isn't bad considering how easy it is to land multiple headshots. It's one of the most damaging full auto guns in the game now.

What is this chart? Is it a script/where can I find it?

[Ashen One]

himegoto wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Yes. I admit, I'm horrible at Mass Effect 3.

Anyway, back on topic... the Indra is essentially a fully automatic Incisor with much less recoil, weight, more spare ammo, a larger clip and a faster RoF.



The burst DPS is higher than my Hurricane II, which isn't bad considering how easy it is to land multiple headshots. It's one of the most damaging full auto guns in the game now.

What is this chart? Is it a script/where can I find it?

Scroll up, I posted a link to it.

[himegoto]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Scroll up, I posted a link to it.

Thanks. Just noticed when I posted on this page.

What is the RC from the damage against armor ?

[Ashen One]

himegoto wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Scroll up, I posted a link to it.

Thanks. Just noticed when I posted on this page.

What is the RC from the damage against armor ?

Reload Cancel

[Rip The Reaper]

automatic siniper rifle? Just give me a smg.... and a widow.

[TeamLexana]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

well, you can kill shielded enemies with one clip... It is not great against armored Reaper units, but still decent

If you know you are gonna fight reapers then ap ammo or warp ammo and you're good. Unkown enemy maps can be a bit problematic though.

[Poison_Berrie]

Ryan_H wrote...

It would be worthy of its UR status if you could fire it from the hip. As it is, its just another SR that has been made worthless by a long series of nerfs. I only use SRs when I run out of equipment for everything else.

What!

It's a Sniper that's viable in the hands of any class. I use it on a Human Engineer as well as on a Salarian Infiltrator.
It has low weight, good damage, great RoF, a fair ammount of spare ammo and a recoil low enough to consistently score headshot especially from cover.

[friedricethem0n]

Ashen Earth wrote...

friedricethem0n wrote...

Does the Indra have inate armor piercing like the Black Widow and Widow?

No, you need an AP mod or AP ammo.

Personally, I think the Indra is better than the BW. It's much lighter, (can be used on every class in the game, without sacrificing cooldown) and does more DPS...

Usually I'm not a fan of using thoretical DPS (assuming every bullet hits) to support an argument of one gun being better than another, because a gun on paper, and it's performance in game are two different things, but I think it's somewhat relevant here given how accurate the Indra is.

Thanks for the info. I guess I will try it on my Salarian Infiltrator and see how it goes... The Widow X is just not doing enough damage because of the shield gate. Even with ED, I still can't 1 shot Marauders in Platinum with Widow X.

I've just unlocked the Indra I so I think I'll give it a go. Thanks.

[Mopbucket2]

The Indra is my favorite sniper rifle. It's quite viable on platinum and on Reapers. Before platinum I only played gold and it was my regular weapon. Almost always got full extraction and, honestly, found gold pretty easy with it.

Once platinum came out, I stopped using it for a bit and tried mastering the claymore. Then picked the indra up again and found it was still quite good. With the recent buff it's even better. It's my most regularly used gun on platinum and platinum is the only mode I play anymore. It's not hard to get 20 head shots by wave 4 or 5 with it. Given its ease of use, a good player can pop the heads of 2-3 shielded enemies fairly regularly with 1 clip. Again, this is on platinum.

For those that say it is terrible against armor...they don't know what they're talking about. It can easily 1-clip a ravager on platinum. Really only takes 3/4 a clip with an infiltrator with prox mine. Takes about 1.5 clips to munch a platinum brute.

The biggest drawback on the Indra is having to stay out of cover for so long.  For those of you who don't watch for anything pinging your shields like a hawk or haven't mastered using soft cover whenever possible...you'll have difficulty with this gun.  Also, being scoped so often screws with your situational awareness.  I glance around whenever I reload.  Sure, it makes me look like I have ADD, but it helps.  Though shield gate isn't much of an issue with the Indra, I still prefer using it with a SI because energy drain keeps my shields high even though I'm often out of cover.

Of course, the claymore X is still a better gun for pure damage on platinum. Claymore X can one shot a ravager with prox mine. Given the way I play, though, I have more fun with the Indra.

As much as people whine about the Javelin...it's one of the best SR's on platinum as well. Friend of mine regularly owns with it. She's the only sniper rifle user that regularly outscores me when I run the Indra, but, of course, she's also a better player than me. 

Personally, on platinum, I'd rate the javelin and indra as the top two SR's. BW is still good, but it was better on gold and before the infi nerf. Valiant is still a top tier sniper rifle, but unfortunately I'm stuck at a Valiant I. When I get a Valiant V or better, I'll revisit the gun.

Modifié par Mopbucket2, 03 août 2012 - 09:55 .

[Bonza99]

Used it today with my GI and had a ball headshot city!

[rlro]

The Black Widow requires far more skill to use than the Indra, but once you learn how to use it, it becomes much better than the Indra.

[joe120184]

if you want to try something then put the saber and the indra on to a destroyer then watch the bad guys die works very well on gold and platnum

[darkpassenger2342]

rlro wrote...

The Black Widow requires far more skill to use than the Indra, but once you learn how to use it, it becomes much better than the Indra.

 i disagree, i have the black widow X and the indra IV and the indra outdamages the bw.
this is taking all BW shots being landed into consideration.
it takes 6+ shots from the bw to kill an unshielded prime with tactical cloak,  an ammo 4, SR amp 3, and sr equip 5. you can dispatch a prime in less than 2 clips on the indra with the same gear. with quicker reload and less precision.
 i hope it gets a buff. I love the black widow, but it is not strong against bosses. after this buff, the indra is much better.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 04 août 2012 - 07:50 .

[Dracian]

For me, it's a tie between Indra and Valiant.

[Lucrece]

Granted, you need to be exposed for longer. Indra should be the benchmark for balancing weapons. They can make the GPSMG actually useful, alongside most of the other weapons like the Geth assault rifle.

And for goodness's sake, buff the N7 Eagle.

Modifié par Lucrece, 04 août 2012 - 07:52 .

[rlro]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

rlro wrote...

The Black Widow requires far more skill to use than the Indra, but once you learn how to use it, it becomes much better than the Indra.

 i disagree, i have the black widow X and the indra IV and the indra outdamages the bw.
this is taking all BW shots being landed into consideration.
it takes 6+ shots from the bw to kill an unshielded prime with tactical cloak,  an ammo 4, SR amp 3, and sr equip 5. you can dispatch a prime in less than 2 clips on the indra with the same gear. with quicker reload and less precision.
 i hope it gets a buff. I love the black widow, but it is not strong against bosses. after this buff, the indra is much better.

Yes, you are correct in this aspect. However, not all enemies are bosses (except in Platinum, but in this case I think no SR is really useful) and so with the Black Widow I can easily one-shot kill Guardians, Nemesis, Marauders, Centurions, etc (provided I strip the shields first, but my SI can do it pretty well). With the Indra, it takes much more time to kill such enemies, specially if they are far.

Also, the other problem is the amount of time that you have to be exposed in order to kill a target using Indra. With BW I can quickly fire 3 shots and get back in cover.

Anyway, I'm not saying the Indra is worthless - quite the contrary. I use it a lot on classes where the weight is an important factor.

[DNC Protoman]

I believe it's been buffed up to a point where it's worthy of it's UR status. It is as it should be. Time to improve some of the other rifles now.