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Dear Bioware: Rebuff the N7 Typhoon


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#151
BoomDynamite

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Kyrene wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75


0.75+0.75=???

Can you read?
ramptime = 0.75

The question here is "Can you read?"
It says in the files fullychargedtime = 1.5

#152
Rifneno

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Sulaco_7 wrote...

Nerfing the typhoon just makes everyone migrate to the Harrier.. again. I doubt this is what Bioware really wants right? A buff to 1.75x seems reasonable.


I don't know why everyone thinks 1.75 is good. It's better than 1.5 in the same way that have your fingers broken is better than having your eyes plucked out. It didn't need a nerf to begin with. Saying 1.75 is fair only justifes their crap to begin with.

Gamemako wrote...

Pure ignorance. BioWare isn't going to do anything unless outcomes are significantly affected. BioWare is not scanning your Coalesced and generally can't know unless you mod credits or start running 5-minute Plat games. Regardless, it's totally irrelevant: you're just trying to straw man the whole thing because you don't like the reality that you have no real argument that doesn't hinge on exclusion.

I will not be baited by flames into responding to your nonsense and trolling. It is cute that you try, though.


Endorses hacking coalesced gun stats, a bannable offense.

Complains of others flamebaiting and trolling.

Seems legit!

#153
KyreneZA

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BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

#154
BoomDynamite

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Kyrene wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

I really don't care if you think I'm lying or not.

#155
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Nerf it again,I do enjoy the misery it creates on these forums.

#156
KyreneZA

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EvanKester wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

Maybe you should quote all the information before accusing people of lying?

fullychargedtime = 1.5
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

If I'm not completely confused what happens is it doesn't start charging until after 0.75 seconds, but at 1.5 total seconds of firing it's at full rate of fire and full damage. There might be a bug, in which case it doubles after three quarters of a second, but the intent is clearly that it will hit full power after 1.5s. 

Yeah and since you don't know for sure, you're just pulling all of that out of your arse. Point is, you and I both don't know, so I'll go with the safer option of what is known. Ramp time = 0.75s, who knows what that fullychargedtime is used for?!?

#157
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The PPR and Typhoon and Rev should be the flagship ARs, with accordant damage and force.

The PPR was the super tech weapon of ME3, basically the equivalent of getting the Spectre AR/Pistol maxed in ME1 or a Revenant+7 in ME2.

After OC the PPR should do the highest sustained DPS in the game. That was kinda the whole point of getting it in the first place. Think about it. It didn't cost 125K in the Spectre store, it cost 10 ACTUAL dollars to get. It sure better be OP as hell.

The Typhoon is a special forces exclusive weapon, basically the equivalent to a Ma Deuce or a BAR. Something that is retardedly heavy, expensive as hell to fire, and will absolutely blast the ass off of anything it's aimed at.

Revenant should be right up there, the premiere dakka per second weapon of any terminus warlord.

They need to be fixed.

#158
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I think the nerf was warranted, but maybe a bit to harsh.

increase the warm up time and slightly buff the damage is what I would've done...

#159
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Not using the typhoon anymore. It's not worth the weight. And if you don't have it yet, the wait neither. SKIP. Atrocious nerf. Not spending a penny more on any packs until they sort this out. I suggest y'all do the same. And make yourselves heard.

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Its also ULTRA RARE. I'm going to keep saying it on all of these threads:

Every ultra rare weapon at Level I should be at least as powerful as its rare equivalent at Level X.

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Olivia Wilde

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I switched the demolisher to the Harrier (and the Javelin,just because it's at X)

The Destroyer still does fine with the Typhoon (I don't play Platinum at all and only play gold with friends) It also worked fairly well with the Krogan Sentinel but not the Vorcha Sentinel (I spec'd the former out of incinerate and the latter out of Flamer)

but over all this has rendered the Typhoon useful only for the class it was intended for and not as much so

More testing in Gold required

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BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

I really don't care if you think I'm lying or not.


Got a PM from Eric Fagnan, he says it's 0.75s.

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IXISHINOBIIXI

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They should lower weight or buff the damage. It just weighs to much for the amount of damge it does now.

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Barneyk wrote...

I think the nerf was warranted, but maybe a bit to harsh.

increase the warm up time and slightly buff the damage is what I would've done...


This kills me.  Why was a nerf warranted?  Did you see pitiful players to dominate with it? Were you suddenly able to dominate Gold matches with it? Platinum?  Please post some of your reasons.
 

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yes

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

I really don't care if you think I'm lying or not.


Got a PM from Eric Fagnan, he says it's 0.75s.


So what is it?  Eric has quoted wrong info to me before ( PM'ed me  that 6th cloak modifier was additive, before rechecking his facts ).

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BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

I really don't care if you think I'm lying or not.

Still waiting for the quote from "the person who posted it in BAT"...

Not trying to be sarcastic or anything, I'd just like more verifyable info on this gun's mechanincs to surface.

#168
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+1

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After playing on Gold match against Cerberus with 439 bullets by the time the Atlas is down i've only 50 left .......... with both nerfs if wasn't for the huge ammo clip this AR would be totally worthless.

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ryoldschool wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Quote pyramid snipped...

Got a PM from Eric Fagnan, he says it's 0.75s.


So what is it?

Could it be that it ramps up in 0.75s, then thereafter gets 'hot' after another 0.75s (but already being at full RoF) giving a total time to charge up of 1.5s? Or the other way round? Thing is we just don't know...

#171
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Humming wrote...

*shrug*

Destroyer/Typhoon combo is still my favourite on Platinum. If it's not a viable option anymore, people will stop using it, thus making Bioware consider giving it a buff.

Look at the patch notes; what is given a buff? Most it is stuff that no-one is using anyway. What is 'nerfed'? Things that most players use.

I like these changes; having combinations that are clearly better than the other combinations makes for a boring game. I don't want lobbies that only consist of Destroyer/Typhoon or GI/Krysae combos. These 'nerfs' makes sure that someone that does not want to play the powerhouses doesn't get kicked in public lobbies.

Try some new guns. Perhaps you learn how to use them and start to love them? When was the last time you brought your Scorpion or Acolyte? I don't like these weapons, but I play with people who knows how and when to use them.

Also, don't listen to the herd on BSN. Remember when the Particle Rifle came? It was deemed to be the worst gun ever. Oh, so bad it was. It was a joke. But now? People keep posting how much better it is than the Typhoon and since it has a couple of numbers higher than the Typhoon people start using it. Same with Revenant. No-one mentioned this gun before the Typhoon 'nerf'. And that was way before the Typhoon was even released! Now it no longer has any drawbacks since it has a higher DPS than the Typhoon. Same with Harrier. Everyone complained about it needing to be buffed since it had no ammo. No one is complaining about that now since it is so much better than the Typhoon and no longer has any drawbacks.

Sorry for rambling.

tl;dr: Typhoon is OK.


Actually the recent nerf to Ex Cerberus made the N7 Fury an obviously better choice for close up Biotics without the use of charge. And thats only 1 example. Look at Krogan and Vorcha Soldiers too. Hell there are a lot of characters which are completely outclassed by others in this game and this didnt fix any of that it just made the Geth infiltrator better then the Destroyer.

#172
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I FINALLY unlocked it when I got home from work today... very anti-climatic. Now that I've finally gotten it and can see how underwhelming it is, I gladly trade it for Sabre IIIV or Harrier III.

#173
BoomDynamite

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Edit2 : Boom Dynamite says the "official" ramp up time inteval is 1.5 seconds.

Boom Dynamite is lying. According to Coalesced it's 0.75s.
gethottime = 0.75
ramptime = 0.75

I'll ask the person who posted it in BAT to post it here...

Please do that. The less missinformation being spread the better.

I'll retract "lying," and go with "spreading hearsay" rather. Please accept my apology for too harsh a word.

I really don't care if you think I'm lying or not.


Got a PM from Eric Fagnan, he says it's 0.75s.

Did he correct himself, or did you post the wrong thing in the Typhoon discussion?

#174
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Pray-tell, how do I get a "Saber IIIV?"

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Shotgun Nova wrote...

It sounds like the Typhoon sucks now...


It doesn't. That is why all the whining is so incredibly pathetic.



For people who spent real $ to unlock the weapon it is devestating. I am 1 of those people.