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PrinceMitch

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 I had an idea the other day that I personally thought would be pretty damn cool, involving Hawke in the next DA game.
How sweet would it be for Hawke to be a party member? Using the game save importer, they could read how they looked, their class and what responses were most made (sarcastic, mean, nice etc.) and base his/her dialogue on that.
It'd be cool to see the continuation of Hawke's story, as I felt the main drawback of DA2 was that it was more about what happens in Kirkwall and Jawke just happening to be their at teh right moments rather than Hawke's journey that he forges himself.
I know this would require a LOT of work, but I think it could be done really well and add an exciting element to those who imported from DA2.

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PrinceMitch wrote...

 I had an idea the other day that I personally thought would be pretty damn cool, involving Hawke in the next DA game.
How sweet would it be for Hawke to be a party member? Using the game save importer, they could read how they looked, their class and what responses were most made (sarcastic, mean, nice etc.) and base his/her dialogue on that.
It'd be cool to see the continuation of Hawke's story, as I felt the main drawback of DA2 was that it was more about what happens in Kirkwall and Jawke just happening to be their at teh right moments rather than Hawke's journey that he forges himself.
I know this would require a LOT of work, but I think it could be done really well and add an exciting element to those who imported from DA2.


Doesn't that mean the developers would further develop Hawke outside of our control if the Champion became a party member? And what about Hawke's love interest?

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I just wish Hawke would have been the protagonist in DA3, but that seems unlikely to happen, regrettably. Though the story should continue in a well-handled way.

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If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

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LobselVith8 wrote...

PrinceMitch wrote...

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Doesn't that mean the developers would further develop Hawke outside of our control if the Champion became a party member? And what about Hawke's love interest?


What individual character development did we get in DA2 really though? Love interest, Friendships/Rivalries and which side we chose at the end. Everything else was pretty much railroaded.

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If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 

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iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 


Maybe we'll see Hawke in the end, taking a breathe in some rubble down in the Deep Roads, alone and abandoned? Sounds like fun!

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:D

Vox Draco wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 


Maybe we'll see Hawke in the end, taking a breathe in some rubble down in the Deep Roads, alone and abandoned? Sounds like fun!

SOOOOOO Much fun!  :D

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Vox Draco wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 


Maybe we'll see Hawke in the end, taking a breathe in some rubble down in the Deep Roads, alone and abandoned? Sounds like fun!


And the little kid from the start of Dragon Age: Origins who lost his mother running away from the darkspawn lets you choose between destroying all dawkspawn, but all non-magic users get killed to. Controlling all the darkspawn and using them to prevent wars, or merge darkspawn, mages and templars together into a new perfect species.


Oh, the problem with adding the HoF as a party member is that the in Origins there weren't any dialogue archtypes like charming or sarcastic and they would have to port the appearance through another game. Plus, adding a voice to a voiceless character would end up causing a lot of hate from fans IMO. "This isn't my Warden!!"

Modifié par PrinceMitch, 02 août 2012 - 08:02 .


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Oh, the problem with adding the HoF as a party member is that the in Origins there weren't any dialogue archtypes like charming or sarcastic and they would have to port the appearance through another game. Plus, adding a voice to a voiceless character would end up causing a lot of hate from fans IMO. "This isn't my Warden!!"

Actually, they could just have a character creation screen to fix the import problem. I'm less sure about the voice.

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PrinceMitch wrote...

Vox Draco wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 


Maybe we'll see Hawke in the end, taking a breathe in some rubble down in the Deep Roads, alone and abandoned? Sounds like fun!


And the little kid from the start of Dragon Age: Origins who lost his mother running away from the darkspawn lets you choose between destroying all dawkspawn, but all non-magic users get killed to. Controlling all the darkspawn and using them to prevent wars, or merge darkspawn, mages and templars together into a new perfect species.


Oh, the problem with adding the HoF as a party member is that the in Origins there weren't any dialogue archtypes like charming or sarcastic and they would have to port the appearance through another game. Plus, adding a voice to a voiceless character would end up causing a lot of hate from fans IMO. "This isn't my Warden!!"

Oh dear god you probably just predicted the Dragon age future. And yeah i get your point with the HoF as a party member, but in Dragon Age origins you get the chance to select a voice ( violent, experinced, wise etc ) but hey, i guess Bioware will find a way to screw it up so i guess HoF should stay out of the picture for now. 

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Vox Draco wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

If Hawke to become a companion in DA3, i want Hero of Ferelden too...

Thank you, for understanding. I'm pretty sure what Bioware is gonna do is just mention Hawke in DA3 not even SHOW your hawke just have a few people mention his/her name and Bioware EA thinks everybody is happy, hugging, and calling it a good game.... 


Maybe we'll see Hawke in the end, taking a breathe in some rubble down in the Deep Roads, alone and abandoned? Sounds like fun!


Well, there was a whole lot of red in DA2's ending, and Hawke did mysteriously disappear, so that would make sense.

But of course, in the Dragon Age universe, you put 2&2 together and get "why would you think that?"

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Hmm

I wonder if Morrigan little lovechild which she sent through the eluvian just might be starbratt in another game???

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I wonder if Morrigan little lovechild which she sent through the eluvian just might be starbratt in another game???


Archdemon: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you.
[pauses]
Archdemon: You do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to Thedas.

OGB: I'll never join you!

Archdemon: If you only knew the power of the Old God. Morrigan never told you what happened to your father.

OGB: She told me enough! She told me she made Dark Ritual with a Warden!

Archdemon: No. I am your father.

OGB: Nooooo!!!!!!. Nooooooo!!!!!!. That's not true. That's impossible!

Archdemon: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

OGB: [anguished] Noooooo!!!!!! Noooooo!!!!!!

OGB will be a very confused child.......

Modifié par Nizaris1, 02 août 2012 - 10:57 .


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I don't think that would be in the best interest. Clearly Hawke like the warden SL ended. I think we will play as someone who is totally new but bad ass. First we were the warden, then the champion and next I think be someone we never heard of.

I kinda wanted to see the place where magic ruled all. What's it called tenvor? I can't spell it but they mention it in DA2 and I wanted see other land where everything is very fancy. I think the DA3 will be about Orgins and the events that happended in DA2

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I'm not against it. I like Hawke...to an extent. I'm less concerned about his/her characterization than I am about their appearance. My Hawkes are modded to death and back. I wonder how that would transfer :I

In regards to the Warden/OGB, not companion (Bioware would choose the absolute worst voice, like in DA2) so I would rather not hear them at all.

@JasonRocker I think you mean "Tevinter" and the "Land where everything is very fancy" would be "Orlais". ^^

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Hated Hawke... If your going to bring a PC back make it the Warden, otherwise just give us a new PC...

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if femhawke isn't in da3 at least have her va in the game(Jo Wyatt) love that voice

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Shadowvalker wrote...

Hmm

I wonder if Morrigan little lovechild which she sent through the eluvian just might be starbratt in another game???


I actually had the same thought some days ago...Wouldn't it be artistic beyond our wildest nightm... dreams if at the end of DA3 our char would meet Morrigans little kiddy and turn everyone in Thedas into metal-golem-human-hybrids!?

And in the epilogue we see how the first giant creatures that look for some reason like cuttlefish emerge from Thedas to pacify the universe! Holy Maker preserve us and send us The Shepard to...make things worse? Ah whatever...at least the "spacemagic" would make sense then

On topic: I could even imagine Hawke as a companion or at least NPC in DA3, at least if importing is possible...default Hawkes are beyond annyoing. Wasn't the end about Hawke/Warden be the important factors in the coming conflict? Why not having at least our Hawke, easier ti build into the game than the Warden, as there are not so many different Hawkes anyway...

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PrinceMitch wrote...

 I had an idea the other day that I personally thought would be pretty damn cool, involving Hawke in the next DA game.

No it's not cool.

PrinceMitch wrote...
How sweet would it be for Hawke to be a party member?

How sweet? Let me see. He/she is a diplomatic goody-goody character or humorous goody-goody character or aggressive goody-goody character. He/she is too generic and too predictable. Not to mention useless and pathethic he can't even protect his/her own family.

PrinceMitch wrote...
Using the game save importer, they could read how they looked, their class and what responses were most made (sarcastic, mean, nice etc.) and base his/her dialogue on that.

Oh I have enough of his/her dialogue already. He/she auto-dialogues too much in DA 2.

PrinceMitch wrote...
It'd be cool to see the continuation of Hawke's story,

No it'd not.

PrinceMitch wrote...
as I felt the main drawback of DA2 was that it was more about what happens in Kirkwall and Jawke just happening to be their at teh right moments rather than Hawke's journey that he forges himself.

That because DA 2  is not about Hawke. It's about Cassandra and Varric wanting to find out the truth behind mage-templar war. Hawke was plotted  to cover the real culprit, Anders. He/she has no importance whatsoever. The qunari invasion? Yeah Hawke become the champion but that's about it. He's still useless I wonder why people even bother to "exaggerate" Hawke's legend.

PrinceMitch wrote...
I know this would require a LOT of work, but I think it could be done really well and add an exciting element to those who imported from DA2.

It could be done well if they can focus on one single main story like the blight instead of trying to tell too many short episodes like the expedition, the qunari's conflict and the mage's crisis - which end up as disjointed stories.

DA 3 will be better off without Hawke. Hawke's story shipped  2 million copies  for DA franchise. He has done his part. Let the new protagonist in DA 3 play his/her role in Thedas. This time let this new protagonist be created or developed by the player themselves.

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Shadowvalker wrote...

Hmm

I wonder if Morrigan little lovechild which she sent through the eluvian just might be starbratt in another game???


That explains it!!! :ph34r:

Hawke on DA3 please! And king Alistair, Hero of Feralden, Anders, Fenris, Morigan, Zevran... :wub::wub::wub:

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So from this I gather that people want EVERYONE in Dragon Age 3? Except that one guy who hates Hawke... xD