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#51
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Mike 9987 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

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So where did liarashield go?

They generally argue every page of their threads. It is a little unnerving that they abandoned one...


Probabably ran away scared when i reported it because he knows he already had a temp ban and will now get another one. 


Yeah, mike. That actually wasn't cool.

I mean, we should at least be respectful of our opponents, if we love argueing with them so much.

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TheExile1 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

So where did liarashield go?

They generally argue every page of their threads. It is a little unnerving that they abandoned one...


Probabably ran away scared when i reported it because he knows he already had a temp ban and will now get another one. 


Yes since its not entirely possible she had something to do and couldn't continue the conversation.

I reported you for harrassment.


this thread was made to troll the people participating in a previous conversation. He's doing the harassing. 

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I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Just explaining possible ways of people can fake overpowered weapons ^_^

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LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 

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Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.

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Computron2000 wrote...

There's a simpler way. What weapon do you want to look over powered?

Slap that weapon on a QMI/Demolisher, put on grenade gear and power amps, run a public random game in London, outscore everyone with grenades. Take 1 screenshot of the end and 1 of you holding the gun in game. If there is a decent player who prevented you from scoring 100k more than the rest, do another one

After that its done, overpowered weapon with pics


I dont think it is so easy to fool everyone. The final screenshot always show how many kills u got using a particular weapon or ability. Assuming that u are topscoring you WILL have the 75 kills medal or the 50 kills medal assigned to the particular ability u used for killing them.

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LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Reasonable.

I will not put out any coutneragruements for a few minutes, so try to keep this threas living till then.

PS: I am not a woman, but that does not excuse me from food either.

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Mike 9987 wrote...

TheExile1 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

So where did liarashield go?

They generally argue every page of their threads. It is a little unnerving that they abandoned one...


Probabably ran away scared when i reported it because he knows he already had a temp ban and will now get another one. 


Yes since its not entirely possible she had something to do and couldn't continue the conversation.

I reported you for harrassment.


this thread was made to troll the people participating in a previous conversation. He's doing the harassing. 


actually she isn't harassing anybody, last time I saw of that thread was you DNC calling people liars because the wasn't OP

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What the f***?

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LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  

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Look's like LiarasShield is in a very bad/angry mood today coz of the constant nerfers & is out on a mission to harass them. Lol...nice.

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Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?

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to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character


I think the reason it hasn't been nerfed is that Bioware is trying to think of a way to nerf the gun in a way that would stop gun classes who are breaking the game with it without hurting the people who use it for its low weight, low accuracy role.

In this case that we are most obviousy mentioning, aside from its name.

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Rokayt wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character


I think the reason it hasn't been nerfed is that Bioware is trying to think of a way to nerf the gun in a way that would stop gun classes who are breaking the game with it without hurting the people who use it for its low weight, low accuracy role.

In this case that we are most obviousy mentioning, aside from its name.


Sounds too trickey to do then but yeah the only classes that really make this gun strong is the geth and the destroyer I don't want to see any of those classes in particular take another bat for the team but I know those are the two classes that make it strong.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


So is this what you mean?
http://social.biowar.../index/13393875

Your argument to me is valid and sound.
But I do think that Bioware employees are smart enough to notice if someone is doctoring data.
They also have access to the numbers and calculations.
Wouldn't it make sense for them to first.

1.Look at what people use.
2.Let Q and A use it to the hilt I.E use every power pump imaginable.
3.Make calculations on damage.
4.Rebalance accordingly.
5.Ignore forum furvour.

BSN Seems to be a lot of hyperbole and that annoys me to no end.
And people here seem to have dismissed a lot of good weapons like the Kishock.
If I was looking for relevant data I sure wouldn't look for it in these forums.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 

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LiarasShield wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character


I think the reason it hasn't been nerfed is that Bioware is trying to think of a way to nerf the gun in a way that would stop gun classes who are breaking the game with it without hurting the people who use it for its low weight, low accuracy role.

In this case that we are most obviousy mentioning, aside from its name.


Sounds too trickey to do then but yeah the only classes that really make this gun strong is the geth and the destroyer I don't want to see any of those classes in particular take another bat for the team but I know those are the two classes that make it strong.


I had a thread on an accuracy bonus mechanic change that would fix the problem.

People who use just one accuracy bonus would be unnaffected, but people who stack them to the ceeling would not break the game that way....

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Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 




See now I'm trying to have decent discussion with you and now you only want to fight and the pirahana works the same as the reguar you have to be face to face with your enemy and still shoot them alot to kill them espically in higher diffculties the only real way you can make this weapon do good damage from a far is using a character that has damage increase or accuracy increase and then of course the consumables and gear.

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Omega2079 wrote...

Don't forget to make sure the other three players are mediocre and take a screenshot of your massive e-peen score, from which they must look up to. After posting it, insist your topping the scoreboard has absolutely nothing to do with skill and it's all because your character/weapon is op.


The best example of this was the GI + piranha thread where the guy using the build scored 374k. Now i am not saying that the original creator of the video did all that u mentioned above. But the one posting the video here on the forums surely wanted to show how OP the build was.

That guy had 3 mediocre players on the team clearly. He alone was doing the killing which is evident from the fact that the game took 34 mins to complete. Add to it the credit payout which was at 69k which clearly shows that he carried them thru as they were not able to complete objectives that efficiently with him.

Also c'mon there is no way that he would score 374k (second guy 61k the third at 45k & the last one at 19k) without the other players being bad at the game. I have used the GI + piranha build with even better consumables while playing with friends who are good at the game & have never been able to outscore them like that.

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AbhijitSM wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

Don't forget to make sure the other three players are mediocre and take a screenshot of your massive e-peen score, from which they must look up to. After posting it, insist your topping the scoreboard has absolutely nothing to do with skill and it's all because your character/weapon is op.


The best example of this was the GI + piranha thread where the guy using the build scored 374k. Now i am not saying that the original creator of the video did all that u mentioned above. But the one posting the video here on the forums surely wanted to show how OP the build was.

That guy had 3 mediocre players on the team clearly. He alone was doing the killing which is evident from the fact that the game took 34 mins to complete. Add to it the credit payout which was at 69k which clearly shows that he carried them thru as they were not able to complete objectives that efficiently with him.

Also c'mon there is no way that he would score 374k (second guy 61k the third at 45k & the last one at 19k) without the other players being bad at the game. I have used the GI + piranha build with even better consumables while playing with friends who are good at the game & have never been able to outscore them like that.


Might be another reason the players he was playing with just weren't that good

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LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 




See now I'm trying to have decent discussion with you and now you only want to fight and the pirahana works the same as the reguar you have to be face to face with your enemy and still shoot them alot to kill them espically in higher diffculties the only real way you can make this weapon do good damage from a far is using a character that has damage increase or accuracy increase and then of course the consumables and gear.


Why become serious now? Why change from blatant sarcasm and trolling to serious all of the sudden? 

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GIs make anything good. It just so happens that it makes the pirhana better. Use it on another class, it has no where near accurate at range. A few exceptions to the rule being a turian and a destoryer.

I love the GI, but its really become a pain in the ass for guns that I actually like because people cry OP when their using class that gets 110% damage boost to any weapon, plus a accuracy boost and firing rate and the ability to see through walls. :pinched:

Modifié par TheExile1, 02 août 2012 - 09:15 .


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Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 




See now I'm trying to have decent discussion with you and now you only want to fight and the pirahana works the same as the reguar you have to be face to face with your enemy and still shoot them alot to kill them espically in higher diffculties the only real way you can make this weapon do good damage from a far is using a character that has damage increase or accuracy increase and then of course the consumables and gear.


Why become serious now? Why change from blatant sarcasm and trolling to serious all of the sudden? 


Cause I'm making a attempt at being civil which alot of people have known me not be and i'm probably just as equal hated as your buddy protan lol

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LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 




See now I'm trying to have decent discussion with you and now you only want to fight and the pirahana works the same as the reguar you have to be face to face with your enemy and still shoot them alot to kill them espically in higher diffculties the only real way you can make this weapon do good damage from a far is using a character that has damage increase or accuracy increase and then of course the consumables and gear.


Why become serious now? Why change from blatant sarcasm and trolling to serious all of the sudden? 


Cause I'm making a attempt at being civil which alot of people have known me not be and i'm probably just as equal hated as your buddy protan lol


Maybe you would not be hated if you stoped calling people trolls and then made troll threads to attack people. You can't possibly say you would have made this thread if that conversation from the other thread did not happen. 

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Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I'm actually a she and yes I did take a break a womans gotta eat come on O_O


Good, keep this thread up. 


My issue with you is that you used a geth infiltraitor or used a geth engineer and hunter mode which you know gives damage bonuses and accuracy bonuses and then you used level 3 or 4 equipment with that gun and probably used the shotgun gear

to say that it is overpowered but if you don't use a accuracy or damage  increaser character if you didn't jack it up with level 3 or 4 ammo with shotgun 3 or 4 with level 5 shotgun gear you probably wouldn't feel that it is so overpowered and raise the flag so high and tight when some don't feel that way.


And i said that this kind of power is impossible with a weapon with the same set up. Then, you decided to call everyone trolls and then make a troll thread.  


Sorry you see it that way but some others don't the claymore and reegar can be just as powerful if you do the same setup it seems like you want to nerf it because you just personally hate the gun am I close?


Still not up to par with the piranha. Also, the reegar forces you to be up close. Trying to answer me now does not justify the fact that you made this post in response to the conversation we had, and you even said it yourself. Also, the clearly sarcastic tone it takes proves it further. 




See now I'm trying to have decent discussion with you and now you only want to fight and the pirahana works the same as the reguar you have to be face to face with your enemy and still shoot them alot to kill them espically in higher diffculties the only real way you can make this weapon do good damage from a far is using a character that has damage increase or accuracy increase and then of course the consumables and gear.


Why become serious now? Why change from blatant sarcasm and trolling to serious all of the sudden? 


Cause I'm making a attempt at being civil which alot of people have known me not be and i'm probably just as equal hated as your buddy protan lol


Maybe you would not be hated if you stoped calling people trolls and then made troll threads to attack people. You can't possibly say you would have made this thread if that conversation from the other thread did not happen. 


Well you're right I wouldn't have made this thread if the other conversation didn't take place but when using a character that enhances accuracy or damage then go all out on equipment and gear you can have similar or =  weapon setups just like how you tried to say that the pirahana is overpowered.