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[Commdor]

mmmu wrote...

Will buy all Mass Effect related DLC to support Bioware for giving me the greatest gaming trilogy to enjoy. So yes, definitely buying.

Seconded. ME3 single-player DLC is why I saved up 4000 MS Points. I'd have even more, but I sprang for Skyrim's Dawnguard expansion.

[BSpud]

AlanC9 wrote...

NitrAce wrote...
It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

What was the point of Kasumi, BtdS, Overlord, Warden's Keep, Return to Ostagar....

Now if you say there was no point and all those DLCs were worthless too, you'd be consistent.

False equivalence. I can't speak for Dragon Age, but many of us feel the ending to ME3 undermines the story, universe and characters. Add to this that the ending (despite the "flavor") is definitive (ie., no more Shepard tales after that, and it appears no more Mass Effect at all). For me, ME2's ending did not do undermine the story and ME2's DLC (which could be played before or after the ending), at the time, seemed like it could very much have an important affect on ME3, and even if it didn't, there wasn't any feeling behind them being a "lost cause" the way ME3 makes anything that happens up to the point of deciding Synthesis/Control/Destory/Refuse does. In other words, ME3 DLC seems irrelevant by default.  

edit: Note that this would be much less of an issue on a game that didn't have its roots in roleplaying and an urgent, universe-encompassing and goal-oriented main storyline.

Modifié par BeefheartSpud, 02 août 2012 - 10:52 .

[Sonashi]

Painaid wrote...

Not unless it's a complete retcon and it allows us to thumb our nose at Starchild and win. So in other words, no. I"ll just YouTube it. Saves me time and money.

I just don't get the point behind spending time and money on a DLC that, in the end, will not change a damn thing. BioWare has shown us firsthand how useless war assets are. I'm not falling for this trap again. It is DLC's like this, and our decision to ignore them, that a firm message can finally be sent to BioWare in a way that they will understand. 

If you still don't like the ending, stop supporting BioWare's endeavors with this game. Period. Speaking with your wallet is the only way they will understand that they f'd up big time.

Am I mad? Certainly. I'm mad because I still feel like BioWare ruined my favorite franchise of all time in the last 15 minutes of ME3. Some of you may have allowed time to lessen your stance against BioWare. As for me, I still hold the line.

Respect to you. You're probably one of the few unicorns in this world who has sense of honor. It's very impressive. Not like some people I saw who held the wallet and now are screaming like little girls. 

And respect to Distant Utopia. Thank you for understanding

[giftfish]

Negative for me.

As much as I would like to see new content, I'm still too disappointed with how BW handled the rest of the game. I won't be playing through it again unless some larger issues are addressed with present content, as too many things that are currently in the game prevent me from enjoying it.

I believe in voting with my wallet, as currency is what every company understands. So, BW gets no more of my dollars until if/when some of the major issues with ME3 are addressed. If that means that I never purchase another EA/Bioware product, then that's fine.  I cancelled my TOR account, as well.  I  successfully resisted the urge to buy action figures yesterday.  ME1/ME2 were my favorite games. EVER. Sacrificing future Bioware/EA products is a non-issue in comparison, and there are plenty of other companies that come out with great games.

For now, I'll being sticking to ME1 and ME2.  I have all the DLC for both, minus Pinnacle Station.  Between that Skyrim, it's more than I have time for, anyway.

Modifié par giftfish, 02 août 2012 - 10:57 .

[BadgerladDK]

NitrAce wrote...


Why is that your problem? Also no hate, as mentioned people are just not interested. It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

[DistantUtopia]

Larg_Kellein wrote...

NitrAce wrote...


Why is that your problem? Also no hate, as mentioned people are just not interested. It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

I think in his case, it has to be more than just a "good distraction"; it has to matter in the long run as far as the narrative of ME3 is concerned.

[Ozida]

Larg_Kellein wrote...

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

Last time I brought that argument up, somebody corrected me that space operas are not for "sress relief". Other time I was told that it is art. And another time that it's a "story to be told, not played through".

Honestly, man, I don't know any more what games are for.

Modifié par Ozida, 02 août 2012 - 10:55 .

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

NitrAce wrote...
It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

What was the point of Kasumi, BtdS, Overlord, Warden's Keep, Return to Ostagar....

Now if you say there was no point and all those DLCs were worthless too, you'd be consistent.

ME2 and DAO had good endings we wanted to reach.

[RShara]

It's not (just) that it won't change the endings. ME3 has no replay value for me because of the butchering of most of the ME2 characters, and the completely break between the rest of the game and the endings.

I'm just not interested until something comes along that addresses these (and other major) flaws. The story for the DLC looks okay but eh.

It's not interesting enough for me to spend money on, or even load up that loathesome Origins.

There's no entertainment value to seeing the character that used to be my Shepard explore a universe that has little consistency, or depth of character.

Modifié par RShara, 02 août 2012 - 10:57 .

[BSpud]

Larg_Kellein wrote...

NitrAce wrote...


Why is that your problem? Also no hate, as mentioned people are just not interested. It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

Which is fine for causal fans, but many of us hardcore fans are in it for the emotional investment and rich experience. We don't look at Mass Effect as the console or PC version of an iphone game.

[twinsfun]

wish it was the change of the last 10min DLC

[vurtual3]

100% yes,I'll buy any story dlc they release for ME3,fantastic game.

[Grinchy]

Yes, I will.

[Andrew_S]

I just decided that I will purchase this content and I wanted everyone to know it. Isn't that just fantastic fellow gaming nerds/friends/superfuntimepals? I thought so. Pew pew, shooting Reapers and going deep sea diving for Reaperized tuna...heck yeah.

[Peranor]

Im not sure yet. Probably not. But never say never...

I replaced my hard drive a month or so ago and haven't reinstalled ME3, or Origin for that matter, since then.

We'll see if I can be arsed to reinstall it again. Right now I just can't shake that "what's the point" feeling about any DLC's for ME3. But I'll keep my eyes and ears open for more information.

[Larryboy_Dragon]

I’m torn… I want to vote with my wallet to indicate that I believe Dragon Age 1 is a better direction for Bioware’s RPGs than action games like ME2/DA2/ME3. But I worry that if I boycott ME3 content, their stat masters will put any abstinence down to the bad publicity around the ending.



Let’s get this straight, ME3 was a mess – but it wasn’t the ending’s fault.

ME3 is a smaller than the games that came before, it has fewer quests then the games that came before, it has fewer paragon/renegade choices then the games that came before, it’s more linear than the games that came before and the damn game STARTED with you being handed a ridiculous magical Deus Ex Machina, never hinted at in the games that came before, that screams “We couldn’t think of any other way to end this”.

I went through the whole game thinking that catalyst would be a trap, because I blindly assumed that not even Bioware were hackneyed enough to start a game by giving you a magic ‘win’ button to build.

But it turns out it was THREE magic win buttons. WHAT A TWIST!



Bioware have become masters at hiding hilariously ludicrous plots under a thing veneer of emotion and perceived player choice. That curtain slipped for a moment at the end of ME3 and suddenly the Bioware fanboys are up in arms…

Well, this particular ball is one that Bioware have been fumbling for a while now. The sooner someone slaps them and reminds them that they are supposed to be making RPGs rather than cinematic romance simulators, the better.

[NitrAce]

Larg_Kellein wrote...

NitrAce wrote...


Why is that your problem? Also no hate, as mentioned people are just not interested. It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

Maybe in the 8bit days. Nowadays games are more than just distractions, Hollywood celebs are actually doing VA for games, big shot writers are writing game narratives. Games are no longer escapism tools they are now very much a part of our entertainment society. They have stories and in many cases better ones than many movies out there. So excuse me if I expect more from my game library than mindless shooting.

Modifié par NitrAce, 02 août 2012 - 11:03 .

[Dorje Sylas]

Nope, not buying it. Not until they actually make a better ending.

I'd buy a better ending... but not this... not with the ending still as bad as it is.

Modifié par Dorje Sylas, 02 août 2012 - 11:05 .

[BadgerladDK]

BeefheartSpud wrote...

Larg_Kellein wrote...

NitrAce wrote...


Why is that your problem? Also no hate, as mentioned people are just not interested. It might be fun to play and a good distraction but if it doesn't add to the whole galactic conflict in some way other than just a 100-500 point war asset what's the point? 

Bolded the part where you answered your own question. Isn't that what games are for?

Which is fine for causal fans, but many of us hardcore fans are in it for the emotional investment and rich experience. We don't look at Mass Effect as the console or PC version of an iphone game.

Oh dear, I can almost hear the scratching of neckbeards from here...
So you're telling me that new story material that digs into the background of the main villain of the trilogy doesn't add to the rich experience of the trilogy?

Oh, and I bought an xbox purely based on the reveal trailer for Mass Effect 1 when it was exclusive to that, so unless you're willing to admit to having made and humped a Liara body pillow, don't try to spring the casual fan thing on me.

[OdanUrr]

I would've preferred this DLC to have been free.

[CptBomBom00]

Yep, I buying the weapon pack and then Levi.

[BadgerladDK]

NitrAce wrote...

Maybe in the 8bit days. Nowadays games are more than just distractions, Hollywood celebs are actually doing VA for games, big shot writers are writing game narratives. Games are no longer escapism tools they are now very much a part of our entertainment society. They have stories and in many cases better ones than many movies out there. So excuse me if I expect more from my game library than mindless shooting.

You know, I'm not entirely sure we actually disagree, other than on what constitutes escapism/distractions etc. To me, any "part of of our entertainment society" should have as its first goal to entertain, and entertainment is just one form of distraction. I'm totally on board with you on a good story adding to that entertainment value. And this DLC seems to be adding more detail to that story to immerse yourself in. In my book, that's a good thing.

[ticklefist]

Tell you when it comes out. 2012 has taught me not to make up my mind about anything before it hits the shelf.

[BSpud]

Larg_Kellein wrote...
Oh dear, I can almost hear the scratching of neckbeards from here...
So you're telling me that new story material that digs into the background of the main villain of the trilogy doesn't add to the rich experience of the trilogy?

Oh, and I bought an xbox purely based on the reveal trailer for Mass Effect 1 when it was exclusive to that, so unless you're willing to admit to having made and humped a Liara body pillow, don't try to spring the casual fan thing on me.

You are so defensive and shot-out-of-a-canon that you missed the point, inferred something that isn't there in my post, and took percieved personal insult while throwing in some blatant insults of your own. At the moment you can't engage in a reasonable conversation, so I'll pass.