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[xsdob]

I look forward to fighting on planet bermuda triangle and discover a lovecraftian horror at the bottom of the sea.

INB4 ENDING COMMENT!

[noobcannon]

i have a feeling we're only going to get a small piece of the answers we're looking for. we'll have to buy more dlc later on to get all of it.

[shepdog77]

xsdob wrote...

I look forward to fighting on planet bermuda triangle and discover a lovecraftian horror at the bottom of the sea.

INB4 ENDING COMMENT!

You mean "Who cares, the ending sucks."

God I hate those people.

[DextroDNA]

shepdog77 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I look forward to fighting on planet bermuda triangle and discover a lovecraftian horror at the bottom of the sea.

INB4 ENDING COMMENT!

You mean "Who cares, the ending sucks."

God I hate those people.

Yes!

[Magiking117]

I don't think the trailer was 'amazing', but I'm certainly intrigued. I actually keep repeating the concluding scene over (the best part). That voice sounds so good. I naturally assumed it was Leviathan, but it could be a Reaper. I hope it's one. I'd like to see the Reapers becoming more desperate as you get closer to their 'destroyer'. Their voices increasingly more angered and menacing.

I look forward to learning more about their origins. A substantial amount, I hope.

Modifié par Magiking117, 05 août 2012 - 10:56 .

[BerzerkGene]

If Leviathan is a reaper, then it doesn't make any sense.
If its not, thats different. But the Catalyst controls the Reapers and is the collective intelligence of them all. He knows everything they do. I do';t even care how scary or helpful this will be made out to be, because in the end you have what? A rebellious janitor on your side? Big whoop. Since the plot enforced stupidity during ME3 makes sure just blowing the Reapers up one at a time is impossible, i really fail to care.

This isn't even meant to change the ending, which is really all i care about at this point. I haven't touched the campaign since the EC. You get more dialogue with starkid, omg! I hate him, i never want to see him again. He makes me tolerate the endings rather than experience them. Last time i left the room while the cutscene played out. I have no positive feelings toward him. He lets me win. All my work, the 100+ hours Commander Harbinger Shepard spent saving the galaxy mean nothing.

At best, i'll watch it on youtube. At worst, i won't bother.

Modifié par BerzerkGene, 05 août 2012 - 11:04 .

[DextroDNA]

Magiking117 wrote...

I don't think the trailer was 'amazing', but I'm certainly intrigued. I actually keep repeating the concluding scene over (the best part). That voice sounds so good. I naturally assumed it was Leviathan, but it could be a Reaper. I hope it's one. I'd like to see the Reapers becoming more desperate as you get closer to their 'destroyer'. Their voices increasingly more angered and menacing.

I look forward to learning more about their origins. A substantial amount, I hope.

Leviathan IS a Reaper.
He was one of the first, and he killed another Reaper. He's kind of like a rogue, and in the end we get to recruit him as a war asset.

[BerzerkGene]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Magiking117 wrote...

I don't think the trailer was 'amazing', but I'm certainly intrigued. I actually keep repeating the concluding scene over (the best part). That voice sounds so good. I naturally assumed it was Leviathan, but it could be a Reaper. I hope it's one. I'd like to see the Reapers becoming more desperate as you get closer to their 'destroyer'. Their voices increasingly more angered and menacing.

I look forward to learning more about their origins. A substantial amount, I hope.

Leviathan IS a Reaper.
He was one of the first, and he killed another Reaper. He's kind of like a rogue, and in the end we get to recruit him as a war asset.

I have a problem with that. Reapers cannot rebel, they are controlled.
Recruiting him as a war asset reduces it to a number again, fun.

[DextroDNA]

BerzerkGene wrote...

If Leviathan is a reaper, then it doesn't make any sense.
If its not, thats different. But the Catalyst controls the Reapers and is the collective intelligence of them all. He knows everything they do. I don;t even care how scary or helpful this will be made out to be, because in the end you have what? A rebellious janitor on your side? Big whoop. Since the plot enforced stupidity during ME3 makes sure just blowing the Reapers up one at a time is impossible, i really fail to care.

This isn't even meant to change the ending, which is really all i care about at this point. I haven't touched the campaign since the EC. You get more dialogue with starkid, omg! I hate him, i never want to see him again. He makes me tolerate the endings rather than experience them. Last time i left the room while the cutscene played out. I have no positive feelings toward him. He lets me win. All my work, the 100+ hours Commander Harbinger Shepard spent saving the galaxy mean nothing.

At best, i'll watch it on youtube. At worst, i won't bother.

See, someone refusing to play what could potentially be a great DLC and reveal things we never knew about the Reapers just because he hasn't gotten over the ending yet.
 Grow up, for ****s sake. The EC made the endings "acceptable" - it's really annoying how people like you can't just move on and accept what happened and there isn't going to be anymore ending DLC.

You're the one who'll be missing out if you don't play or watch the DLC.

You're a fool.

[DextroDNA]

BerzerkGene wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Magiking117 wrote...

I don't think the trailer was 'amazing', but I'm certainly intrigued. I actually keep repeating the concluding scene over (the best part). That voice sounds so good. I naturally assumed it was Leviathan, but it could be a Reaper. I hope it's one. I'd like to see the Reapers becoming more desperate as you get closer to their 'destroyer'. Their voices increasingly more angered and menacing.

I look forward to learning more about their origins. A substantial amount, I hope.

Leviathan IS a Reaper.
He was one of the first, and he killed another Reaper. He's kind of like a rogue, and in the end we get to recruit him as a war asset.

I have a problem with that. Reapers cannot rebel, they are controlled.
Recruiting him as a war asset reduces it to a number again, fun.

The Catalyst "embodies the collective consciousness and memories of the Reapers."
It doesn't CONTROL them. Maybe that's why it gave us the choice, because part of Leviathan is in there - the rogue Reaper.

And what else do you want them to do with Leviathan after he joins us? You want a ****ing Reaper squad-mate taking up half the battlefield and one-shotting enemies?

Quit your ****ing, seriously.

[Mister Mida]

RussianZombeh wrote...

The Catalyst "embodies the collective consciousness and memories of the Reapers."

Yeah, and it also says it 'controls the Reapers'. They are its solution. So, what is it?

And Leviathan killed a Reaper? Source?

Modifié par Mister Mida, 05 août 2012 - 11:11 .

[DextroDNA]

Mister Mida wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

The Catalyst "embodies the collective consciousness and memories of the Reapers."

Yeah, and it also says it 'controls the Reapers'. They are its solution. So, what is it?

And Leviathan killed a Reaper? Source?

"They are it solution" doesn't mean he controls them at all. Nukes were Einstein's solution, but he couldn't control them.
 It acts as an overseer, a better way to put it is it's in charge of the Reapers. You can't control a sentient being (unless it's indoctrinated), and we know Reapers can't be indoctrinated.

And yes, Leviathan killed a Reaper. It was a line of dialogue in leaked DLC files in the Extended Cut.

[BerzerkGene]

RussianZombeh wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

If Leviathan is a reaper, then it doesn't make any sense.
If its not, thats different. But the Catalyst controls the Reapers and is the collective intelligence of them all. He knows everything they do. I don;t even care how scary or helpful this will be made out to be, because in the end you have what? A rebellious janitor on your side? Big whoop. Since the plot enforced stupidity during ME3 makes sure just blowing the Reapers up one at a time is impossible, i really fail to care.

This isn't even meant to change the ending, which is really all i care about at this point. I haven't touched the campaign since the EC. You get more dialogue with starkid, omg! I hate him, i never want to see him again. He makes me tolerate the endings rather than experience them. Last time i left the room while the cutscene played out. I have no positive feelings toward him. He lets me win. All my work, the 100+ hours Commander Harbinger Shepard spent saving the galaxy mean nothing.

At best, i'll watch it on youtube. At worst, i won't bother.

See, someone refusing to play what could potentially be a great DLC and reveal things we never knew about the Reapers just because he hasn't gotten over the ending yet.
 Grow up, for ****s sake. The EC made the endings "acceptable" - it's really annoying how people like you can't just move on and accept what happened and there isn't going to be anymore ending DLC.

You're the one who'll be missing out if you don't play or watch the DLC.

You're a fool.

Potentially, i still don't care. The Reapers are just lackeys, the end.
The EC may have made things acceptable by your standards, but not mine. If they had made war assets mean something, or at least had the refusal ending show everyone going down in a blaze of glory, then i might agree.
I know there won't be anymore ending dlc. Hence my lack of interest.

Youtube man, youtube. I spend zero dollars and get to watch everything the people who pay do.
I would ask you not to lob insults, but i don't see the point.

[Mister Mida]

RussianZombeh wrote...

"They are it solution" doesn't mean he controls them at all. Nukes were Einstein's solution, but he couldn't control them.
 It acts as an overseer, a better way to put it is it's in charge of the Reapers. You can't control a sentient being (unless it's indoctrinated), and we know Reapers can't be indoctrinated.

It's funny you ignore that one sentence in my previous post. Once again, the Catalyst says: 'I control the Reapers'. So what is it?

[BerzerkGene]

RussianZombeh wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Magiking117 wrote...

I don't think the trailer was 'amazing', but I'm certainly intrigued. I actually keep repeating the concluding scene over (the best part). That voice sounds so good. I naturally assumed it was Leviathan, but it could be a Reaper. I hope it's one. I'd like to see the Reapers becoming more desperate as you get closer to their 'destroyer'. Their voices increasingly more angered and menacing.

I look forward to learning more about their origins. A substantial amount, I hope.

Leviathan IS a Reaper.
He was one of the first, and he killed another Reaper. He's kind of like a rogue, and in the end we get to recruit him as a war asset.

I have a problem with that. Reapers cannot rebel, they are controlled.
Recruiting him as a war asset reduces it to a number again, fun.

The Catalyst "embodies the collective consciousness and memories of the Reapers."
It doesn't CONTROL them. Maybe that's why it gave us the choice, because part of Leviathan is in there - the rogue Reaper.

And what else do you want them to do with Leviathan after he joins us? You want a ****ing Reaper squad-mate taking up half the battlefield and one-shotting enemies?

Quit your ****ing, seriously.

I'm guessing you got that from the wiki. He also says he controls the Reapers. And seeing as when Shepard takes his place he has complete control as well, i'm inclined to believe him.
That doesn't really make sense, hundreds or thousands of consciousnesses would outweigh a single one.

Why would you assume thats what i would want? How about a scene of it flying into battle at the end? Simple, yet you know it actually counts for something, because he'll be there for the fight.
You should really calm down, you are much too aggressive.

[BerzerkGene]

Mister Mida wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

"They are it solution" doesn't mean he controls them at all. Nukes were Einstein's solution, but he couldn't control them.
 It acts as an overseer, a better way to put it is it's in charge of the Reapers. You can't control a sentient being (unless it's indoctrinated), and we know Reapers can't be indoctrinated.

It's funny you ignore that one sentence in my previous post. Once again, the Catalyst says: 'I control the Reapers'. So what is it?

Ima back you on this.
Theres also the fact that the Catalyst says "The Created will always rebel asgainst their creators."
Now the Reapers were created by the Catalyst, unless he has utter control over them, would he not fear them rebelling against him?
If he does, then he would exercise his control over them. If not, he's even more hypocrtical than i thought.

[Mister Mida]

BerzerkGene wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

It's funny you ignore that one sentence in my previous post. Once again, the Catalyst says: 'I control the Reapers'. So what is it?

Ima back you on this.
Theres also the fact that the Catalyst says "The Created will always rebel asgainst their creators."
Now the Reapers were created by the Catalyst, unless he has utter control over them, would he not fear them rebelling against him?
If he does, then he would exercise his control over them. If not, he's even more hypocrtical than i thought.

You'd guess it would fear being overthrowed if it wasn't fully in control. Judging from the conversation with it I guess it is fully in control.

But I honestly don't feel like thinking too much about a subject that claims to be a character when barely minutes later into the conversation also claims it isn't.

And talking about it some more might derail the thread.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 05 août 2012 - 11:51 .

[BerzerkGene]

Mister Mida wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

It's funny you ignore that one sentence in my previous post. Once again, the Catalyst says: 'I control the Reapers'. So what is it?

Ima back you on this.
Theres also the fact that the Catalyst says "The Created will always rebel asgainst their creators."
Now the Reapers were created by the Catalyst, unless he has utter control over them, would he not fear them rebelling against him?
If he does, then he would exercise his control over them. If not, he's even more hypocrtical than i thought.

You'd guess it would fear being overthrowed if it wasn't fully in control. Judging from the conversation with it I guess it is fully in control.

But I honestly don't feel like thinking too much about a subject that claims to be a character when barely minutes later into the conversation also claims it isn't.

And talking about it some more might derail the thread.

I agree.
Fair enough, but derailing things is the Catalyst's speciality.
But yeah, I'm likely to get yelled at again by someome for still not liking the ending. Peace out dude.

[DirtyPhoenix]

xsdob wrote...

I look forward to fighting on planet bermuda triangle and discover a lovecraftian horror at the bottom of the sea.

INB4 ENDING COMMENT!

[toddx77]

Look interesting but it should have been made to be in the actual game. It is going to feel strange playing this DLC which looks to be important but knowing it takes place before the final battle and is never mentioned in the game.

[Thaa_solon]

Something that can kill reapers and is called leviathan......on the bottom of the sea......

A sentient walking talking underwater CAIN..........makes perfect sense

[known_hero]

Why must people try to ruin the fun for the rest of us? This whole "I could care less about me3 but still continue to waste my time posting on the forums everyday" attitude is ridiculous. Just move on! The endings aren't getting changed to your standard. Deal with it.

[Burneye Is God]

RussianZombeh wrote...

That trailer looked ****ing amazing.

"Even though the Starchild shed some (very dim) light on the Reaper's origins - this DLC is going to give us a much wider insight on their origins. We're going to be conversing with a Reaper that might not be against us! I for one am VERY interested as to how the Reapers came about, and always have been since ME1 when Sovereign said; "We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure."

I'm excited to get to know the Reapers, and to be WORKING with one. The trailer obviously couldn't have shown much, because it's obivous that there's going to be lots of exciting bits in this DLC they want to keep as a surprise.

I'm looking forward to giving Bioware my money for this, I have about 70% faith in them. I've gotten over the endings and realised that Mass Effect 3 is 99% a fantastic game. The Mass Effect universe and trilogy is my favourite ANYTHING. EVER. I have faith in Bioware with this, I hope they take it in the right direction." - my post from page 5.

Everyone's thoughts?

since mass effect 2 i've wanted reaper dlc!!! mainly a character tbh but... man i cant wait for this

[Memnon]

shepdog77 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I look forward to fighting on planet bermuda triangle and discover a lovecraftian horror at the bottom of the sea.

INB4 ENDING COMMENT!

You mean "Who cares, the ending sucks."

God I hate those people.

You hate those people? Really? This is basically baiting "those people" and preemptively telling them how horrible they are. I've always maintained that while I hate the endings, I harbor no ill will towards anyone that likes them. My ire has always been directed at BW. Really, this "I hate you" attitude is what is wrong with this place

[Thaa_solon]

Shepard: tell me about the reaper origins
Leviathan: i..it is not a thing you can comprehend
Shepard: FFFFFUUUUUUUUU


Best DLC ever