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#1
aliteDC

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 Please stop the biotic/electric slash spam. It makes my sniper unusable sad :(

Modifié par aliteDC, 09 août 2012 - 10:04 .


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ETDM

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... that's the point.

Ever heard of class synergy?

If the the screen is shacking don't go hmm snaiping?

Modifié par ETDM, 02 août 2012 - 09:23 .


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Felhand

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Having your screen shake like crazy cause of that/grenades completely makes it impossible to aim let alone scope something, I can understand what they were trying to go for, but in a multiplayer situation were the other three guys on your team could be spamming the crap near none stop well lets just say they were better off leaving that feature out of the game.

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Ziegrif

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Shockwave destroying a charging trooper horde > shooting that one trooper.
Shockwave initiating BE > shooting that primed enemy.

Adapt to sniping with screen shake.
That's what I did.

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IllusiveManJr

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I thought Shield Gate was a snipers worst nightmare.


Edit: OP changed title. 

Modifié par theillusiveman11, 02 août 2012 - 10:51 .


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X50Pence777

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Rather than ask people to stop using their powers either ask bioware to remove the screen shake which should never have been implemented for people who arnt using the powers or dont snipe...to me powers are the one thing that makes mass effect unique, without them you might aswell be playing a game like battelfield which is far better for people who like using guns....

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Star fury

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If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.

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There's major issues with the classes, not the powers, if they are spammed endlessly.

You have to be high to think it's OK that this is how a great majority play these classes.

I mean even the horrid Krysae at least required you to look down your scope. These spammers hide behind a wall because the classes are worthless on any difficulty above silver for the vast majority of players and spam ES/BS over and over and over and that's it. That's all they got.

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ETDM wrote...

... that's the point.

Ever heard of class synergy?


Ever heard of learning to play a class instead of standing in the corner mashing a button like a moron?

People who LITERALLY spam a power the entire round (prior to ES, I had never even seen this- I'm talking about never stopping, never moving, never using their weapon) are basically griefers in my book.

I vote Bioware implement a feature that throws your character off a cliff for doing that garbage.

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upinya slayin

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aliteDC wrote...

 Please stop the biotic/electric slash spam. It makes my sniper unusable.

in reality BW nerfs made your sniper unusable.

their spamming is probably doing 5-10 times the damage your sniping is

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timber0418

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so all I hear is "everyone change to play the way I want to play"
sad

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Hretha

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


You can't possible be that ignorant...

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Micah3sixty

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What I don't get is that on Gold, these powers alone don't do that much damage. They need either biotic or tech primers from other powers to be really potent, yet so many farming matches I regrettably arrive in are E/B-slash/smash spammers. And in-game they seem to forget their weapon and other powers exist. Painful to watch if the rest of the team has bled out.

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NiteHawk202

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Youre totally right, I should be shadow striking that banshee.

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Micah3sixty wrote...

What I don't get is that on Gold, these powers alone don't do that much damage. They need either biotic or tech primers from other powers to be really potent, yet so many farming matches I regrettably arrive in are E/B-slash/smash spammers. And in-game they seem to forget their weapon and other powers exist. Painful to watch if the rest of the team has bled out.


Their weapons might suck vs bosses, not out DPSing ES/BS and they're usually kinda squishy, so cover is a good thing.

Besides, Shadow Striking/Biotic Charging a brute, banshee, or atlas can be suicidal.

Shadow only has -2- attack abilities anyhow. It's either ES, SS, or plink bosses with light weight, weak weapons that will probably run out of ammo LONG before they do substantial damage usually.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 02 août 2012 - 09:50 .


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MystEU

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Hey bro, I'ma let you snipe that Cerberus Trooper instead of staggering and setting up Tech Bursts/Biotic Explosions on entire groups of enemies.

Get that headshot, bro.

Bro.

It's annoying but there's no argument here.

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Fleetfiend

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X50Pence777 wrote...

Rather than ask people to stop using their powers either ask bioware to remove the screen shake which should never have been implemented for people who arnt using the powers or dont snipe...to me powers are the one thing that makes mass effect unique, without them you might aswell be playing a game like battelfield which is far better for people who like using guns....


Hear hear!

I wouldn't object at all to a lessened screen shake, but you can't reasonably ask people to stop using the powers they like.

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Micah3sixty wrote...

What I don't get is that on Gold, these powers alone don't do that much damage. They need either biotic or tech primers from other powers to be really potent, yet so many farming matches I regrettably arrive in are E/B-slash/smash spammers. And in-game they seem to forget their weapon and other powers exist. Painful to watch if the rest of the team has bled out.


I guess I missed the part where 1,100+ damage wasnt very much (at a rate of every 1.5-2 seconds... 550 DPS+)

When your team is down (soloing), its also the safest method to ensure you arent getting hit by Banshee warp balls (which are death sentences to a Shadow and Slayer with nothing to charge), or that Prime which constantly staggers you, while reliably dealing some damage.

I'll admit you should TRY to cloak>ES>ES>Shoot if possible on the Shadow.... but the Vanguard? Charging when soloing on Gold is tough considering the insta-kill enemies forcing you to play far less risky.

Biotic/Electric Slash are also some of the best spawn killers as well, especially in the early waves when its tons of infantry units.

I'd much prefer someone cheesed behind a wall and spammed ES/BS all game than Shadow Striked/Biotic Charged and died all game long (Not saying you cant SS/BC well, just that most cant, and its far riskier by nature).

Other than for Hack+Escort objectives you dont need to be next to anyone when they're spamming powers anyway, so if you dont like it... move, simple as that.

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Micah3sixty wrote...

What I don't get is that on Gold, these powers alone don't do that much damage. They need either biotic or tech primers from other powers to be really potent, yet so many farming matches I regrettably arrive in are E/B-slash/smash spammers. And in-game they seem to forget their weapon and other powers exist. Painful to watch if the rest of the team has bled out.

Dropped in on Wave 2 of W/G/G. The class makeup looked weird, but once I finally saw all three of them in action, it became painfully obvious what their gameplan was. The party was two Slayers and a Shadow; each one picked a wall, and spammed through it blindly until they got overrun.

Some games are worth leaving your consumables behind.

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brblx wrote...

ETDM wrote...

... that's the point.

Ever heard of class synergy?


Ever heard of learning to play a class instead of standing in the corner mashing a button like a moron?

People who LITERALLY spam a power the entire round (prior to ES, I had never even seen this- I'm talking about never stopping, never moving, never using their weapon) are basically griefers in my book.

I vote Bioware implement a feature that throws your character off a cliff for doing that garbage.




I don't get people like you, so what if they spam a power. That power has superior damage and range, plus can go through walls. What about all the people who use the Fury to detonate biotic explosions? It's people like you who always complains, then weapons and characters get nerfed. If a character can do more damage with a power, compared to a weapon to that certain build, why wouldn't they spam it. This is beyond stupid.

Modifié par danray1983, 02 août 2012 - 09:58 .


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danray1983 wrote...

I don't get people like you, so what if they spam a power. That power has superior damage and range, plus can go through walls. What about all the people who use the Fury to detonate biotic explosions? It's people like you who always complains, then weapons and characters get nerfed. If a character can do more damage with a power, compared to a weapon to that certain build, why wouldn't they spam it. This is beyond stupid.

Because it takes no skill, no strategy, and very little planning; because it's slower and weaker than actually playing the game; and because it's annoying.

Modifié par rmccowen, 02 août 2012 - 10:00 .


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JiceDuresh

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I want people to stop it so they don't keep using it in reaction to actaully seeing an enemy that's not behind a wall and dieing, making me have to come rez them over and over. Slash spamers are usually bad players, but since it works they can get away with it. I can shoot with the spam no problem, but I think it irks me more that my team mate is so timid they have to take a character named a 'slayer' and play chicken in a corner.

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Micah3sixty

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rmccowen wrote...

Micah3sixty wrote...

What I don't get is that on Gold, these powers alone don't do that much damage. They need either biotic or tech primers from other powers to be really potent, yet so many farming matches I regrettably arrive in are E/B-slash/smash spammers. And in-game they seem to forget their weapon and other powers exist. Painful to watch if the rest of the team has bled out.

Dropped in on Wave 2 of W/G/G. The class makeup looked weird, but once I finally saw all three of them in action, it became painfully obvious what their gameplan was. The party was two Slayers and a Shadow; each one picked a wall, and spammed through it blindly until they got overrun.

Some games are worth leaving your consumables behind.


That's pretty much the game plan I see in many randoms I join.  Usually ends with the squad down between waves 6-10 and waves being soloed/carried by experienced gold/platinum runners.

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Sexist troll is obvious.

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This argument is so full of holes! First spamming a power is no less boring than holding the trigger on an assault rifle, SMG or quick kill weapon. Variety is entirely up to the player.

This shouldn't be any more evident than in the flexibility of the builds to player taste. Anyone arguing away this lack of standard should play a common variety shooter. Or just get on with learning to play with power based classes in your "army" game!