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#26
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Please stop sniping

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:

Modifié par GallowsPole, 02 août 2012 - 10:13 .


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The shaking is OP!

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rmccowen wrote...

danray1983 wrote...

I don't get people like you, so what if they spam a power. That power has superior damage and range, plus can go through walls. What about all the people who use the Fury to detonate biotic explosions? It's people like you who always complains, then weapons and characters get nerfed. If a character can do more damage with a power, compared to a weapon to that certain build, why wouldn't they spam it. This is beyond stupid.

Because it takes no skill, no strategy, and very little planning; because it's slower and weaker than actually playing the game; and because it's annoying.



Then you're playing with junk. I play with with where we use Shadows, Slayers, and the Fury, we can decimate the enemy pretty easy. It makes me laugh when you say it takes no skill or strategy. The Shadow itself doesn't have that many good powers. SS is pretty useless IMO, especially on Platinum. I bet you get mad at the Demolishers for spamming grenades too, I still have to laugh.

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GallowsPole wrote...

Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:


SS is great for taking out those pesky Rocket Troopers or Marauders perched up off in the distance. Some Shadows fail to realise the help that can be to your team...

Oh and the things you can do to those damned Phantoms >:D

Modifié par Guash, 02 août 2012 - 10:24 .


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Madmoe77 wrote...

This argument is so full of holes! First spamming a power is no less boring than holding the trigger on an assault rifle, SMG or quick kill weapon. Variety is entirely up to the player.

This shouldn't be any more evident than in the flexibility of the builds to player taste. Anyone arguing away this lack of standard should play a common variety shooter. Or just get on with learning to play with power based classes in your "army" game!



Thank you, someone with common sense. We all spam in ME3. Whether it's powers, grenades, or bullets, we all spam. I guess they expect power based classes to use 2 heavy weapons, and never use their powers.

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Guash wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:


SS is great for taking out those pesky Rocket Troopers or Marauders perched up off in the distance. Some Shadows fail to realise the help that can be to your team...

Oh and the things you can do to those damned Phantoms >:D


Agreed. I skim the perimeters picking off the pests. But spamming is still great against multiple kooks.

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GallowsPole wrote...

Guash wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:


SS is great for taking out those pesky Rocket Troopers or Marauders perched up off in the distance. Some Shadows fail to realise the help that can be to your team...

Oh and the things you can do to those damned Phantoms >:D


Agreed. I skim the perimeters picking off the pests. But spamming is still great against multiple kooks.


Agreed. I'm in no way saying ES doesn't have uses, I'm only saying that these spammers aren't really doing as much as they could to help the team as a whole.

....Agreed. Agreed! Agreed? >.>

Modifié par Guash, 02 août 2012 - 10:48 .


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I only encounter this when I'm dropped into a FBWGG. I set it to random most of the time but when I do end up playing it, I usually avoid sniping due to the grenade/slash spam. If you really want to snipe, just don't play FBWGG since those spammers usually become corpses mid-animation in non farming games.

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


I highly resent this statement.

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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


rush inside a group of enemies to SS ,then die again and again is worser than noob
this properly is crap player

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Pedactor wrote...

There's major issues with the classes, not the powers, if they are spammed endlessly.

You have to be high to think it's OK that this is how a great majority play these classes.

I mean even the horrid Krysae at least required you to look down your scope. These spammers hide behind a wall because the classes are worthless on any difficulty above silver for the vast majority of players and spam ES/BS over and over and over and that's it. That's all they got.


Thats probably because if they are specced as how the community views as 'correct', the shadow literally only has 650 shields. with the slayer faring a little better at...800?(i cant remember exactly, Slayer didnt interest me all that much).  One hit by a prime's cannon, or a rocket, or a hunter volley, and you're shields are already down, and if it was just 1 thing shooting you at a time, maybe it would still be manageable but we all know thats usually never the case. This is compounded by the fact that electric slash and biotic slash, and to a lesser extent shadow strike have horribly long animations in which you are totally vulnerable and you can see why they do it from behind walls.

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IanLai wrote...


rush inside a group of enemies to SS ,then die again and again is worser than noob
this properly is crap player



If you engage a group and die multiple times, yeah, you're definitely a noob. If you SS the last enemy in a group and repeat the trick, you'll kill faster and safer than just mindlessly spam slash.

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danray1983 wrote...

rmccowen wrote...

danray1983 wrote...

I don't get people like you, so what if they spam a power. That power has superior damage and range, plus can go through walls. What about all the people who use the Fury to detonate biotic explosions? It's people like you who always complains, then weapons and characters get nerfed. If a character can do more damage with a power, compared to a weapon to that certain build, why wouldn't they spam it. This is beyond stupid.

Because it takes no skill, no strategy, and very little planning; because it's slower and weaker than actually playing the game; and because it's annoying.


Then you're playing with junk. I play with with where we use Shadows, Slayers, and the Fury, we can decimate the enemy pretty easy. It makes me laugh when you say it takes no skill or strategy. The Shadow itself doesn't have that many good powers. SS is pretty useless IMO, especially on Platinum. I bet you get mad at the Demolishers for spamming grenades too, I still have to laugh.

If you're mixing classes
and causing BEs, I'm probably not talking about you. I'm frustrated with people whose idea of playing a Gold match is to stand in one spot and spam one skill through the same wall for an entire match.

It would never have even occurred to me to play any character that way, but out of the four matches I played tonight, three were in FBWGG, and two of those were composed of nothing but people spamming Biotic Slash and Electric Slash. And when one of these people asked why I wasn't joining in, I replied politely that my spec is built mostly for Tactical Cloak and Shadow Strike. The collective reaction was disbelief and ridicule.

Shadow Strike deals about 4000 points (depending on spec and gear) of shield-gate-ignoring damage. Admittedly I play mostly Gold, and no Platinum at all, but executing a Phantom in one hit is a pretty nice ability to have. In fact it's so nice that, in a group that's actually interested in engaging enemies, it can almost trivialize fighting Cerberus, and take a great deal of pressure off in Geth and Reaper matches. It's far from worthless, unless venturing out of the FBW control room means you're soloing.

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tonilynn17 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.


You can't possible be that ignorant...






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I almost feel sorry for some of the spammers. Three games today infiltrators that were close to them let them die. Slash/Smash is extremely annoying even as a non sniper if you are next to them, but people should at least revive them....unless of course you died standing in the same spot spamming a wall and get killed by something sneaking up on you. Then it's just funny.

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Not to warry op, as I can sense the 'nerf hammer' moving closer and closer.

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complaining about biotics by wich are their main strength wich may clean 3-4 enemies on a row because you want to snipe 1 by wich theres a chance you may even fail.......

edit: not defending whole match one spot camping, but cleaning corridors and be on the move biotic slash is useful.

Modifié par vinlandhammer, 02 août 2012 - 11:34 .


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 Use energy drain,  overload or arc grenades and get huge tech bursts. The shadow is great for tech bursts as they get a 100% bonus on them.  You help the team out more by doing this. 

As for slash, just aim for the bosses. Slash is a bad boss killer. 

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I don't mind the power it self but the shaking is very annoying even with other guns it makes aiming very difficult.

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There's a very valid point here. Screen shaking is either cosmetic, or an ill-conceived "synergy" mechanic. In either case, it would be better gone. But please don't blame someone for using a core ability. Blame Bioware for thinking shaking the screen around was a wise choice.

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Electric Slash is a core ability for the Shadow. SS deals more damage, but has certain very notable drawbacks, especially regarding survivability. A shadow who doesn't ES will have to compensate that lack with weaponry, requiring bigger weapons, increasing weight, increasing recharge time, reducing effectiveness. And why would you be hugging so close to a Shadow anyway, as a sniper? You left your position if you are that close, or picked a bad position, meaning the Shadow is cleaning out all those enemies surrounding you at short range.
On the battlefield, the Shadow moves around very similar to a Krogan. Slightly longer range perhaps, but the two do move around similarly. Sticking to the Krogan that's running around isn't too effective either for a sniper, and the exact same applies to sticking with a Shadow.

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OP, go commit suicide. I don't need you telling me to stop slashing because you can't adapt to screen shaking.

And to clear the air, I don't spam it unless the situation calls for it, and on platinum, it most certainly does.

Modifié par AwesomeDudex64, 03 août 2012 - 12:33 .


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Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.

 

GallowsPole wrote...
Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:



Wooow. I seriously take offence to that. I'm a girl, and I am MvP more often than not. Sorry guys, but this isn't the 19th century any more. I hope your mothers love you, because that's about as close as you are ever going to get to any self-respecting woman.

Either way, people can play however the hell they want. Just because they don't play the way YOU would does not mean they are "noobs." 

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Fleetfiend wrote...

 

Star fury wrote...

If you're spamming slash instead of using SS on Shadow, you're either noob or girl playing MP.

 

GallowsPole wrote...
Yeah spammers. Kill one enemy at a time instead of 4 or 5 you dumb n00b girlie girl.  :blink:



Wooow. I seriously take offence to that. I'm a girl, and I am MvP more often than not. Sorry guys, but this isn't the 19th century any more. I hope your mothers love you, because that's about as close as you are ever going to get to any self-respecting woman.

Either way, people can play however the hell they want. Just because they don't play the way YOU would does not mean they are "noobs." 


Exactly, we all payed for the game, well most of us, so nobody will ever dictate to me how I play. I didn't understand his girl remark, must still live with momma, and hasn't gotten any before.